“I’m an Incel, Ask Me Anything.”

[Don Draper]

Women choose most of the time. Men will settle much easier for any woman willing to give him the time of day.

Talk about a "very outdated mentality".

Since the beginning of time, that's the statement emasculated, insecure, woe-is-me, useless basement-dwelling wimps have been using to justify their futility with the female gender. All they have to do is wake up to the world.

If that's really what you think then that's what your life will be. Living off scraps someone else throws away, like a dog in an alleyway. Absolutely pitiful.

Be a Man, not a dishrag.

 

[canada-man]

When You Stop Caring About Women, Results Will Come

 

[likwid]

Keep in mind, the current environment is also shaping us. Why do you think incel is just now a thing? Online dating widens the competition now, you have to compete with dudes within a big radius and it pumps up the standard average. Also typical male hobbies have shifted to video games and other indoor/anti-social activities. Ultimately many common trends in the current male lifestyle are shaping weak men, which woman obviously wouldn't fuck. But are good for the economy as wage slaves.

 

[Tashki]

Talk about a "very outdated mentality".

Since the beginning of time, that's the statement emasculated, insecure, woe-is-me, useless basement-dwelling wimps have been using to justify their futility with the female gender. All they have to do is wake up to the world.

If that's really what you think then that's what your life will be. Living off scraps someone else throws away, like a dog in an alleyway. Absolutely pitiful.

Be a Man, not a dishrag.

Don...There’s a reason why women chooses most of the time, it’s because they have more dating/sexual opportunities than us. You know why most men get insecure about other men checking their hot girlfriend out at the mall? Because, he knows that she could leave him at anytime and easily get with another dude. Women are very good at moving on from an ended relationship. It generally takes a while for men to recover from an ended relationship hence women having more power than us in the dating pool. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...break-up-faster/amp_etphotostory/69677747.cms)

You will never see women go out of their way and approach men at bars and clubs. Why? Because they don’t need to. Us men have to be players in order to get the woman we want. Only hard part is that the woman gets to choose which player gets to win the game.

 

[jcpro]

Don...There’s a reason why women chooses most of the time, it’s because they have more dating/sexual opportunities than us. You know why most men get insecure about other men checking their hot girlfriend out at the mall? Because, he knows that she could leave him at anytime and easily get with another dude. Women are very good at moving on from an ended relationship. It generally takes a while for men to recover from an ended relationship hence women having more power than us in the dating pool. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...break-up-faster/amp_etphotostory/69677747.cms)

You will never see women go out of their way and approach men at bars and clubs. Why? Because they don’t need to. Us men have to be players in order to get the woman we want. Only hard part is that the woman gets to choose which player gets to win the game.

If you think that women don't have to compete for men, you have no idea what you're talking about. Women are just as insecure and torn by image issues as any average man. Yes, even the "hot" ladies. The problem is not women and their "power". It's the fearful men. Women always approach men, they're just not as overt and aggressive as men. When a complete stranger approaches a woman, her rejection is not because she's a cunt. It's because he is a complete stranger! It's easy to pick up random women, it's just a numbers game- unless you're Quasimodo. But, for a relationship, it helps to get to know a few women, casually, and take it from there. For every man there's a woman, a lot of times more than one. Unfortunately, too many men don't get that to women, self doubt, negativity and timidness are as unattractive as saggy tits are to men. That's just genetics and complaining about it is self defeating.

 

[Smallcock]

If you think that women don't have to compete for men, you have no idea what you're talking about. Women are just as insecure and torn by image issues as any average man. Yes, even the "hot" ladies. The problem is not women and their "power". It's the fearful men. Women always approach men, they're just not as overt and aggressive as men. When a complete stranger approaches a woman, her rejection is not because she's a cunt. It's because he is a complete stranger! It's easy to pick up random women, it's just a numbers game- unless you're Quasimodo. But, for a relationship, it helps to get to know a few women, casually, and take it from there. For every man there's a woman, a lot of times more than one. Unfortunately, too many men don't get that to women, self doubt, negativity and timidness are as unattractive as saggy tits are to men. That's just genetics and complaining about it is self defeating.

Genetics tells us that a much higher proportion of men throughout all of human history never had children. They died without a legacy. Today, dating sites and apps reveal to us the 80/20 rule practically in real-time. One thing that has been consistent throughout history, is that a handful of men have had all of the relationships and procreated with women. Only until the industrial revolution and the rise of the middle class did this change briefly as it gave common men more resources than he ever had. Back to the no children and 80/20 rule.. they exist because women by and large do the choosing. You underestimate how many Quasimodos exist on the male side, although a female Quasimodo can always find some dude to happily knock her up.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

 

[Smallcock]

The incel is not new. Only the term is. We're just beginning to understand why he exists and how long he has existed, which at a minimum is for thousands of years. And unlike in the past when all he had were some basic tools, today's incel can buy a firearm and shoot up hundreds of people and go viral on social media.

 

[luvyeah]

Why not take pride in it...

 

[Smallcock]

Tesla was another genius without a woman in his entire life.

 

[jcpro]

Genetics tells us that a much higher proportion of men throughout all of human history never had children. They died without a legacy. Today, dating sites and apps reveal to us the 80/20 rule practically in real-time. One thing that has been consistent throughout history, is that a handful of men have had all of the relationships and procreated with women. Only until the industrial revolution and the rise of the middle class did this change briefly as it gave common men more resources than he ever had. Back to the no children and 80/20 rule.. they exist because women by and large do the choosing. You underestimate how many Quasimodos exist on the male side, although a female Quasimodo can always find some dude to happily knock her up.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

Look, the Western societies(and not only) for social, economic and religious reasons, were set up for marriage and procreation. There were always very few unmarried men and women around. For much of the feudal period marriage was mandatory. With the beginning of the industrial period it was necessary for the survival. We are in a bit unusual time, that's all. Throughout the history under Christianity, there were very few single women, hence very few single men. The 80/20 assertion is not reflected in the historical records. There were more(not overly so) single men because of the high mortality among women. We should not also forget the stratification of the old societies where class crossing was not possible even if the "rich" wanted more than one woman- which was also prohibited due to religious reasons.

 

[Don Draper]

Don...There’s a reason why women chooses most of the time, it’s because they have more dating/sexual opportunities than us. You know why most men get insecure about other men checking their hot girlfriend out at the mall? Because, he knows that she could leave him at anytime and easily get with another dude. Women are very good at moving on from an ended relationship. It generally takes a while for men to recover from an ended relationship hence women having more power than us in the dating pool. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...break-up-faster/amp_etphotostory/69677747.cms)

You will never see women go out of their way and approach men at bars and clubs. Why? Because they don’t need to. Us men have to be players in order to get the woman we want. Only hard part is that the woman gets to choose which player gets to win the game.

That's some pretty emasculated, dishrag-of-a-man dialogue there. You truly are your own worst enemy. You haven't even shown up to the fight and you already lost.

The kind of man who writes this likes it doggy style but HE'S the one face down, ass up while SHE fucks him from behind with a strap on. Most importantly, he likes it this way.

Whatever it is that you have going on in your life, make it better. This has nothing to do with women.

Be a better businessman, a better guitar player, a better house painter, a better cook, a better architect, whatever it is that gives you your livelihood and position in this world. Be better at it...now! This isn't being a "player". This is being your own man and owning your own life. No one else's opinion matters about yourself. Only yours matters. This clarity not only attracts women, it attracts a cooler level of friends, better job prospects and takes you places.

You think women aren't insecure? You think women don't have severe issues about their looks, weight and dating prospects? Brother, if you don't realize they're an emotional mess, even when they're happy, then you have to get out of the basement you live in. Women are constantly looking for validation from men. Their walls go up to protect themselves since their biggest fears are 1) being dumped and 2) being slut shamed. It comes off as 'cold' and 'distant' but the reality is its just insecurities and self doubt. A man always has the advantage knowing this.

If another man is "checking out your hot girlfriend at the mall" and she checks him out in return then tell her to go ahead and jet. Watch the look on her face when you say that and even encourage it calmly. No man needs that. If you're going to treat a woman like Beyonce then she has to treat you like David Bowie, not someone who bought a ticket to a Beyonce concert.

The man chooses always. The man decides who he wants to spend his energy and resources on. The woman has to be worthy of all these efforts.

It's your life to live and live well. That's because of the choices YOU made, not the choices someone else made for you. That would be pitiful.

 

[Druidicfluid]

That's some pretty emasculated, dishrag-of-a-man dialogue there. You truly are your own worst enemy. You haven't even shown up to the fight and you already lost.

The kind of man who writes this likes it doggy style but HE'S the one face down, ass up while SHE fucks him from behind with a strap on. Most importantly, he likes it this way.

Whatever it is that you have going on in your life, make it better. This has nothing to do with women.

Be a better businessman, a better guitar player, a better house painter, a better cook, a better architect, whatever it is that gives you your livelihood and position in this world. Be better at it...now! This isn't being a "player". This is being your own man and owning your own life. No one else's opinion matters about yourself. Only your matters. That clarity not only attracts women, it attracts a cooler level of friends, better job prospects and takes you places.

You think women aren't insecure? You think women don't have severe issues about their looks, weight and dating prospects? Brother, if you don't realize they're an emotional mess, even when they're happy, then you have to get out of the basement you live in. Women are constantly looking for validation from men. Their walls go up to protect themselves since their biggest fears are 1) being dumped and 2) being slut shamed. It comes off as 'cold' and 'distant' but the reality is just insecurities and self doubt.

If another man is "checking out your hot girlfriend at the mall" and she checks him out in return then tell her to go ahead and jet. Watch the look on her face when you say that and even encourage it calmly. No man needs that. If you're going to treat a woman like Beyonce then she has to treat you like David Bowie, not someone who bought a ticket to a Beyonce concert.

The man chooses always. The man decides who he wants to spend his energy and resources on. The woman has to be worthy of all these efforts.

It's your life to live and live well. That's because of the choices YOU made, not the choices someone else made for you. That would be pitiful.

This!

 

[Robert Mugabe]

That's some pretty emasculated, dishrag-of-a-man dialogue there. You truly are your own worst enemy. You haven't even shown up to the fight and you already lost.

The kind of man who writes this likes it doggy style but HE'S the one face down, ass up while SHE fucks him from behind with a strap on. Most importantly, he likes it this way.

Whatever it is that you have going on in your life, make it better. This has nothing to do with women.

Be a better businessman, a better guitar player, a better house painter, a better cook, a better architect, whatever it is that gives you your livelihood and position in this world. Be better at it...now! This isn't being a "player". This is being your own man and owning your own life. No one else's opinion matters about yourself. Only your matters. That clarity not only attracts women, it attracts a cooler level of friends, better job prospects and takes you places.

You think women aren't insecure? You think women don't have severe issues about their looks, weight and dating prospects? Brother, if you don't realize they're an emotional mess, even when they're happy, then you have to get out of the basement you live in. Women are constantly looking for validation from men. Their walls go up to protect themselves since their biggest fears are 1) being dumped and 2) being slut shamed. It comes off as 'cold' and 'distant' but the reality is just insecurities and self doubt. A man always has the advantage knowing this.

If another man is "checking out your hot girlfriend at the mall" and she checks him out in return then tell her to go ahead and jet. Watch the look on her face when you say that and even encourage it calmly. No man needs that. If you're going to treat a woman like Beyonce then she has to treat you like David Bowie, not someone who bought a ticket to a Beyonce concert.

The man chooses always. The man decides who he wants to spend his energy and resources on. The woman has to be worthy of all these efforts.

It's your life to live and live well. That's because of the choices YOU made, not the choices someone else made for you. That would be pitiful.

That is T shirt worthy.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Why not take pride in it...

I used to, because it was my only accomplishment. SP's ruined that for me.

 

[Druidicfluid]

That is T shirt worthy.

I can tattoo it on your back if you like. I wouldn't recommend it on your chest without morphine. Cost about 5 grand though. Course you could always go on twitter and ask for funding.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

That's some pretty emasculated, dishrag-of-a-man dialogue there. You truly are your own worst enemy. You haven't even shown up to the fight and you already lost.

The kind of man who writes this likes it doggy style but HE'S the one face down, ass up while SHE fucks him from behind with a strap on. Most importantly, he likes it this way.

Whatever it is that you have going on in your life, make it better. This has nothing to do with women.

Be a better businessman, a better guitar player, a better house painter, a better cook, a better architect, whatever it is that gives you your livelihood and position in this world. Be better at it...now! This isn't being a "player". This is being your own man and owning your own life. No one else's opinion matters about yourself. Only yours matters. This clarity not only attracts women, it attracts a cooler level of friends, better job prospects and takes you places.

You think women aren't insecure? You think women don't have severe issues about their looks, weight and dating prospects? Brother, if you don't realize they're an emotional mess, even when they're happy, then you have to get out of the basement you live in. Women are constantly looking for validation from men. Their walls go up to protect themselves since their biggest fears are 1) being dumped and 2) being slut shamed. It comes off as 'cold' and 'distant' but the reality is its just insecurities and self doubt. A man always has the advantage knowing this.

If another man is "checking out your hot girlfriend at the mall" and she checks him out in return then tell her to go ahead and jet. Watch the look on her face when you say that and even encourage it calmly. No man needs that. If you're going to treat a woman like Beyonce then she has to treat you like David Bowie, not someone who bought a ticket to a Beyonce concert.

The man chooses always. The man decides who he wants to spend his energy and resources on. The woman has to be worthy of all these efforts.

It's your life to live and live well. That's because of the choices YOU made, not the choices someone else made for you. That would be pitiful.

I"m calling this thread right here.

 

[luvyeah]

I used to, because it was my only accomplishment. SP's ruined that for me.

They took what little I had! :biggrin:

 

[Tashki]

That's some pretty emasculated, dishrag-of-a-man dialogue there. You truly are your own worst enemy. You haven't even shown up to the fight and you already lost.

I had about a 100+ fights over the past few years. I lost to every single battle due to female rejection.

The man chooses always. The man decides who he wants to spend his energy and resources on.

Okay Don Juan. How about this: Go to social gatherings all by yourself and approach 100 women that you find attractive and go on a date with every single one of them since you claim the man chooses always, Because I don't believe you, Unless you are Kilgrave. I want to be on your side but i'm just not seeing it.

We can control our own individuality but we can't control women to be with us.

I agree with everything else you said that's why i didn't quote them. I'm not into anal by the way.

 

[Don Draper]

Okay Don Juan. How about this: Go to social gatherings all by yourself and approach 100 women that you find attractive and go on a date with every single one of them since you claim the man chooses always, Because I don't believe you, Unless you are Kilgrave. I want to be on your side but i'm just not seeing it.

We can control our own individuality but we can't control women to be with us.

I agree with everything else you said that's why i didn't quote them. I'm not into anal by the way.

Glad to know you're not into anal. Good humour shows there's hope yet.

I'm not a 'Don Juan', a 'pick up artist' or any of those sorts. I'm just a guy who learned from his mistakes early on, had good advice in my late teens and now put it to practice.

What you're talking about is making a graph out of this, not reality. You've got to get out of your own head to see this clearly.

The point is that the women I approach to ask out are MY choice. Let's say I approach 10 women I'm interested in. Some might be in relationships, some might not be available for whatever reason, some just might not be interested. However, from my own personal history, out of those 10 women, 3 or 4 will accept a date with me. (So, out of your chosen figure of '100', that would be a possible 30 or 40 women). Realistically, out of those 3 or 4 women, only 1 or 2 will prove to be interesting or enticing enough to keep seeing her. It's my choice to see someone I'm interested in. If a woman doesn't show interest in me, that's just fine. Now I know I don't have to waste my time anymore. The sooner this is established, the better.

My point is: I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A WOMAN ONLY BECAUSE SHE'S INTERESTED IN ME. Even if a woman shows interest in me, I still have to choose her. It's not a done deal just because she approached me. She has to be of my liking and choosing. I'm not just going to take "anything that comes along". All of the women I have had relationships with have been my choice to do so. I've also turned down plenty of women because I had no interest in them.

I was having this same conversation with a buddy of mine less than a month ago. He's a solid guy, good friend and stand up person. Not a great looking guy but not a troll either. He could be a friend of any one of us. The woman he's interested in right now is giving him the run around, is unfocused and flakey. He's insecure and doubting his abilities so this whole thing is a vicious circle where he's just miserable and confused.

I told him to stand his ground, make a plan but ultimately he has to be willing to walk away. He grimaced and frowned at this but took my advice. He called her, said he'd made reservations at a good restaurant (meaning a confirmation from her is required) and that he'd like to see her on a specific date. She didn't confirm and said she'd 'get back to him'. I told him no matter how hard, don't call her again. The reservation date came and went with no word from her. He called me all down and depressed but I said don't call back. About 4 days later she did call him, left a voice mail saying she was sorry, the usual "I lost track of time" bullshit and that she was available the coming Saturday. He called me asking what to do and I said: "tell her you're busy that Saturday and can't make it. Leave it at that". She wasn't expecting to hear that.

Now she's calling him every day, making herself available and suggesting dates. I reminded him it's now HIS CHOICE to take her out or not. He stood his ground, followed through and feels better about himself.

I hope this sheds some light on what a man is capable of and what he can do. Ultimately, it's his choice.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

One thing about "incels" that I think is important is that many of them do not blame the world and do recognize that they are the problem. I was one for many years, before "incel" was a term. Ironically this was when I was a young man and at my best looking in my life. I still believed I was not good enough, not worthy, and not good looking or charming enough and I didn't date. I knew the problem was entirely myself.

When I got older it got easier, because I stopped caring so much and that helped me become less shy. Online dating helped, as did seeing strippers. Both allowed practice without much fear of rejection for my looks. As I gained confidence I also got old and uglier, but the former vastly surpassed the latter, and now I have little problem flirting or charming women who I would have previously considered far far out of my reach.

The issue with incels I think is self doubt and lack of confidence and self worth. Beating up on incels doesn't help with that. I think it would be better to encourage them, and stopping the demonization of the sex industry would also help a lot.