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shakenbake

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Both sides have pros and cons end of the day it's generally about money without getting into other things.

I would like to know if Libs/Justin weren't in power all these years and it was Conservatives who would be buying new builds or current homes in Canada than the supposedly "Asians". I don't follow politics as much so I'm sure some of you here who do would know what plan the Conservatives would have had for the homes that aren't selling based on what the Liberals did.
One example:

Downsview military base sell-off was to allow for affordable housing. What was built under conservative Mulroney watch, luxury homes in that area. Prices in Canada started to skyrocket as soon as foreign investment from Hong Kong was allowed back in 1986, along with enhanced capital gains deductions at that time. All under conservative rule.

So, if anybody tries to point to partisan politics as a scapegoat for the fucked-up housing situation, I say, give your head a shake.
 

bazokajoe

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Thoughts?

A lot of these cities relied on 1 or 2 industries for their success.
Sounds like all of Canada in general with our trading partners.
We rely way too much on the US for trade.
When the US fucks us over the entire country suffers.
Diversify our trade with other countries and the impact won't be as painful.
 
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DesRicardo

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What did Stephen Harper do for housing in Canada when he was in?
Just say you are a Liberal supporter and get it over with.

On a base level, Conservatives would not have driven inflation the way Liberals have the last 10 years.

And the sad part is, Trudeau never addressed the issue until Poilievre started speaking on it.
 
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DesRicardo

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I vote for either of the 2 parties than sticking with one and this is coming from a guy who's pro abortion. Far as I'm concerned not much would have changed for housing in the 10 years even if the inflation was slowed down. But you guys can defend whatever you like lol...
Deflection and denial.

-Rapid population increase by Immigration.
-Uncontrolled Fiscal spending.
-Bank rates increasing.
-No real attempt to remove barriers for building.
-A housing accelerator fund that hasn't produced a single house yet.


None of this was happening under Harper, so keep lying to yourself.
 

DesRicardo

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Like I said, Deflection and Denial.

You ask how for the difference between Conservatives and Liberal, you are given the difference, but still refuse to believe.

“A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point." - Leon Festinger

 

DesRicardo

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Your housing in Brampton. No made up numbers.

I think it's fair to say we wouldn't have such runaway pricing under Conservative leadership. But you will deflect, so why do I bother?



 
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shakenbake

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lol so you employ partisan politics? People would be happy with Mulroney era jobs and homes.

Governments can change laws. We are missing billions with an economy in freefall and China openly manipulating our elections and you think this is business as usual? Ridiculous.

As for housing, out of control immigration directly impacts housing. Pure Liberal policy.
I don’t employ partisan politics. I was pointing out that the conservatives are also equally to blame for the fuckups we have today. Pay attention and open your eyes to what I wrote. Don’t blame just one party.
 
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shakenbake

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I know the general difference between the 2 parties. I also simply asked a few times what big difference in housing would be there if say the past 10 years was a major Conservative party in place.

If the average house in Brampton right now is $1.2 million (just making up the number) and a majority Conservative government was in the past 10 years what would the average house in Brampton go for right now? $800K to just $1 million? I don't know. Still out of reach for many young Canadians.

And baby boomers are also a factor in the housing since some of the ones who did well in a city are selling and moving to other areas, but at times have to outbid others to get the property that's also increasing the value of the homes in other small cities or town.
And, we are going to blame the government of the day in Canada for the world’s economic woes. Might I remind you that we have had a conservative government in power at the provincial level for the years that you pointed to, and that housing prices are more dependant on location rather than who is in Ottawa?
 

Ginomore

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Both sides have pros and cons end of the day it's generally about money without getting into other things.

I would like to know if Libs/Justin weren't in power all these years and it was Conservatives who would be buying new builds or current homes in Canada than the supposedly "Asians". I don't follow politics as much so I'm sure some of you here who do would know what plan the Conservatives would have had for the homes that aren't selling based on what the Liberals did.
If you don’t follow politics as you stated why are you making illogical and uninformed comments in this thread?
 

jalimon

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I'm done with this topic cause I proved my point. And my original comment said I don't follow it "as much". I already know who I'm voting in the fed election and nor am I a far right or far left voter. In terms of housing the vote doesn't matter. As for many other things both parties stand for and are saying they will do takes my vote. I'm also well aware that many promises aren't fulfilled once elected. You "far" voters/supports can think what you like. If magically homes go back to what they were being sold for in the early 2000s then expect job cuts and wage cuts which I already mentioned. It's not a win for the average joe if you lack funds or overleveraged yourself.
Happy to know you agree with you.
 
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DesRicardo

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Said his not familiar, could someone explain it to him. It gets explained to him. He still pushes back.

Fucking hilarious. :ROFLMAO:
 

Phil C. McNasty

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CLOUD 500

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Do you think if the Conservatives were in power all these years when it was Libs/Justin we wouldn't be in a similar situation?
Well under Harper, homes and apartments were affordable.

Who's buying land in Canada for millions? Who's developing homes on that land and selling high for a profit? With as small as Canada's population is if Canadians aren't buying up new builds or other homes then the money comes from somewhere else especially when it's big money on the line.
Ridiculous analysis. The people are concentrated in the major cities of Canada. No one is spreading out because first it is way too cold, and second most of Canada is the Canadian Shield making agriculture not possible. The GTA is very densely populated and that is the problem. The Trudeau Liberals had a mass immigration policy that made prices of everything from homes, apartments, to food very expensive. They are also bringing in hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. The boomers that already own a home are now sitting on gold mines. Simple law of economics, the law of supply and demand. When demand far exceeds supply, then prices goes way up.
 

CLOUD 500

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What deflection and denial are you talking about? I openly admitted I vote between the 2 parties unlike you.

Did Canada's population increase when Harper was in? Yes. Maybe not as much as Trudeau's reign did sure I'm not denying that but it did.

Did Harper also create new homes? Yes. Maybe not as much as Trudeau/Libs did.

I've also already said Libs spend more and tend to create more jobs to help the economy which has it's pros & cons. Cons tend to cut back so perhaps build fewer homes so less work which also has it's pros & cons for the economy.
You cannot tax a nation into prosperity. The public sector exploded under Trudeau. More bureaucracy. Public sector is not creating wealth, taxpayers pay their wages. It is not the Federal government's responsibility to build homes, this falls under provincial and municipal jurisdictions. But the Federal government is 100% to have uncontrolled immigration. Remember the Trudeau / Carney Liberals voted for the Century Initiative. This is a corporate lobby group and is getting its immigration advice from the McKinsey agency which is a consultant firm for the rich advising them on how to get even more richer. Their goal is to have 100 million people by 2100. To achieve that goal they would have to import 780,000 people yearly. That is absurd. Any wonder we got a housing crisis. Plus there are not enough jobs for all these people but the Liberals will give out freebies to asylum seekers. The spending has to stop. More spending = Devaluing the currency reducing purchasing power.
 
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