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jalimon

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Jali,
The drama is over.
It wasn't as scary and impactful as you were told to believe.

Now you are just arguing that women can't just go down the street for an abortion.
You are arguing for a party that leads the country to an economic catastrophe. Along with being completely authoritarian.

I do not care about your intellectualism. You can't see shit.

The Trump family is currently grifting and frauding on all front, especially in crypto. Hundreds of millions.

If a democrat had screamed to a reporter the same thing. He would have been thrown out of the party in 1 day. The difference is all there. The US is currently run by dumb pigs.
 

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Jali,
The drama is over.
It wasn't as scary and impactful as you were told to believe.

Now you are just arguing that women can't just go down the street for an abortion.
The drama is not over, women remember and don't want more states banning abortion.
Its another losing policy, like ending america first by sending cash to Argentina and Israel, allowing Saudi and Korean workers in, not to mention the tariffs.

Pro Publica said women are dying.
 

jalimon

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The drama is not over, women remember and don't want more states banning abortion.
Its another losing policy, like ending america first by sending cash to Argentina and Israel, allowing Saudi and Korean workers in, not to mention the tariffs.

Pro Publica said women are dying.
You know, Frank, the real absolute danger is when people will give up. Too fed up with the idiocy and burlesque pig action of Trump and this administration. Because that is exactly what they want.

I do not give a shit about TDS. Actually, I embrace it. Regular folks need to remain totally devoted to having TDS to try to salvage what remains possible to get back to decency.
 

Butler1000

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Butler we live in the world that is our time.
Your lamenting AI always seems to come up when discussing the U.S. with mixed-up thoughts that look backwards. Canada will be impacted as well. Western economies are always adapting and transitioning. Many jobs that existed fifty years ago don't exist or are materially different in nature.

Now you should also be seeing that the U.S. (and Canada) doesn't need an army of unskilled workers coming into the country every year.

Instead of telling us that the sky is falling, try discussing how our economies will adapt and succeed.
Oh, I know that it will affect the West, the East and a whole lot of third world nations that got outsourced things as well.

The solution is going to be difficult. In the past innovation changed jobs. Increased productivity to create more commerce. And all these jobs were built to facilitate that growth. And more jobs were needed and created. But now we aren't changing the products. We aren't replacing horses with cars, trains with airplanes, or adding things. We are just going to be replacing people with machines to do lots of busy work jobs.

It's actually going to hurt women worse as these office jobs disappear. And honestly lots of blue collar trade jobs imo will be safe. Hell even most truck driver/delivery jobs will be.

And all those mid lvl manager jobs in offices will drop too.

I can't tell you what age solution is, because we still haven't figured out just how powerful its going to be. But think about how AI is already creeping in pretty steady. It's in my feeds all the time now.
 

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Will never understand anyone who thinks living in Canada is better than the states. Not to shame lower end jobs or blue collar folk, but Canada is only great for labor and low end jobs. Engineers, doctors, lawyers, nurses. Anything that requires at least a post secondary degree, you are far better off in the states. Why tf would you come to a poorer version of your country? I'm in my 40s now which is too late but once my kids get older and graduate, I'd want them to move to the states. People who say the American dream is dead are brain dead. You'd notice those people have no good jobs and the only person responsible for their lives failures is themselves.
I do think certain parts of raising children or taking maternal leave can be more positive in Canada or anywhere abroad.

But these women are not birthing 3 kids like decades ago. So what they are running from, they have to be more specific.

I’d go as far as saying they have no clue what they want or need.
 
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You know, Frank, the real absolute danger is when people will give up. Too fed up with the idiocy and burlesque pig action of Trump and this administration. Because that is exactly what they want.

I do not give a shit about TDS. Actually, I embrace it. Regular folks need to remain totally devoted to having TDS to try to salvage what remains possible to get back to decency.
jali, you need to set up one of your legendary Montreal small orgies.
 

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All the scare tactics and we find that it's not hard to have an abortion in the United States.
But it IS objectively harder for women to access abortion services in the US than in Canada.
They have to either jump through hoops, especially in black and latino communities who do not have the money or the funds to access abortion services in other states.
Therefore the criticism of America's backwardness is 100% true.
 

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I've watched AI video and how it has progressed in one year. Do I think its actual intelligence? No. It isn't close. But its one hell of a lot closer to the Star Trek computer model than we had 2 years ago. Right now we are at Google + mode. With some added intuitive structure.

But this shit is exponential. Once they figure out how to monetize properly, probably by subscription for an advanced model, with a basic available for public use with advertising, it will be packaged and sold with specific jobs in mind. Legal, payroll, customer service, pizza ordering, whatever.

It will be used to program picking bots in shipping receiving, connected to ordering, payments, hell even 3D on the spot printing.

It's going to come hard and fast. Look what the IPhone did in 2006, Blackberry when it hit. It will change shit in ways the CEOs haven't figured out yet.
While AI is undoubtedly advancing rapidly, realizing its full potential in business is far from plug-and-play.
Effective implementation requires significant process changes, IT infrastructure upgrades, and change management, all of which are substantial capital investments.
Each organization is unique, with different workflows, legacy systems, and compliance requirements, meaning that a solution capable of performing a task doesn’t automatically translate into positive financial impact.
It is a long-term transformation, not a short-term thing, and the timeline for meaningful impact varies widely across industries.
So while AI will certainly reshape many aspects of business over time, narratives predicting instant mass unemployment are largely fear mongering.
 
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While AI is undoubtedly advancing rapidly, realizing its full potential in business is far from plug-and-play.
Effective implementation requires significant process changes, IT infrastructure upgrades, and change management, all of which are substantial capital investments.
Each organization is unique, with different workflows, legacy systems, and compliance requirements, meaning that a solution capable of performing a task doesn’t automatically translate into positive financial impact.
It is a long-term transformation, not a short-term thing, and the timeline for meaningful impact varies widely across industries.
So while AI will certainly reshape many aspects of business over time, narratives predicting instant mass unemployment are largely fear mongering.
I did say that the monetization will be for specialized AI by subscription with general AI operating as a Google +.

Also these CEO's will implement it just to raise stock prices as private equity loves layoffs. They won't care how well it works. They can rehire as necessary and correct mistakes. It's how they work.

What will be interesting is where IP and other protections come in. Soon lawsuits are going to start over theft.

And look at all the AI data centers bring built and laws being quietly put into place granting them first rights to local power grids over regular people. They are expecting things from this.
 

WyattEarp

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But it IS objectively harder for women to access abortion services in the US than in Canada.
They have to either jump through hoops, especially in black and latino communities who do not have the money or the funds to access abortion services in other states.
Therefore the criticism of America's backwardness is 100% true.
You're simply ignoring the advancement in medicine and women's preferences to cling to an outdated political notion.
Over half of Canadian women get prescribed medical abortions via telemedicine.
Over 25% of American women receive telemedicine abortions and its growing rapidly.

So you are left with your judgment that people and their communities that don't support abortion are backward. While I was never against abortion, I never understood the idea that somehow supporting abortion made one more enlightened. We know that conservative, rural areas have more opposition to abortion. Canada has a substantial number of people who support more restrictions.

Again, abortion is virtually a dead political issue. It was a good wedge issue while it lasted.
 
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Nah, they won't.
They are not going to fuck up their core business for AI.
Except maybe for online tech help/chat windows.
Those are designed to not provide help but to buffer the company from actually providing support.
That is one of the few places where AI is uselessly perfect.
 

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You're simply ignoring the advancement in medicine and women's preferences to cling to an outdated political notion.
Over half of Canadian women get prescribed medical abortions via telemedicine.
Over 25% of American women receive telemedicine abortions and its growing rapidly.

So you are left with your judgment that people and their communities that don't support abortion are backward. While I was never against abortion, I never understood the idea that somehow supporting abortion made one more enlightened. We know that conservative, rural areas have more opposition to abortion. Canada has a substantial number of people who support more restrictions.

Again, abortion is virtually a dead political issue. It was a good wedge issue while it lasted.
I am not ignoring anything.
You seem to have a problem with objectivity and resort to mental gymnastics to justify the unjustifiable.
It is a matter of fact that accessing abortion services in any form, for people of all means is far easier in Canada than in the US.
It is a matter of fact that women have to jump through hoops, or travel to an entirely different state, just to get an abortion.
It is a matter of fact that some restrictive states even ban telemedicine for abortions.
It is a matter of fact that any of these laws that restrict a woman's rights to choose to control her body is objectively backward.
And no, not sure how you think abortion is a dead political issue.
I would rather characterize it as being in a highly active, dynamic phase after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v Wade.
 
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