Abusive father forces six year old to run on treadmill until he died

[Jenesis]

No, its not better

Then have sex, be responsible, take precautions and assume the risk.

Those are your options. It is not to have sex and then decide you want nothing to do with the child you made so it is all on her to either have an abortion or raise a child with no financial support. Want to sign your rights away - ok. Shitty but ok. However financially you are on the hook. The other poster doesn’t seem to agree with that. He agrees with abortion by coercion and intimidation.

So what do you agree with or are you just looking for a fight this morning and couldn’t use your own thread for it?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So what do you agree with or are you just looking for a fight this morning and couldn’t use your own thread for it?

Huh?? What fight??!!
I just informed you that vasectomies arent always reversible.

Not sure why you're always so angry

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Neither is the pill

The pill is 99+% reliable.

Vasectomy reversals are only 60 to 95% successfull

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[Jenesis]

Huh?? What fight??!!
I just informed you that vasectomies arent always reversible.

Not sure why you're always so angry

So what does that have to do with your actual opinion on the debate???? What is your opinion on the debate itself or do you not have one? I don’t think you do because you have avoided in for a couple of posts now. I think you are just coming here looking to cause drama.

And who is angry? I think you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to try and cause shit. So it would be you who is angry. Who pissed in your cornflakes today Philly? I know you well enough to know the games you play.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And who is angry?

You are. 24/7.
Your posting history proves that

What is your opinion on the debate itself or do you not have one?

I'm only pointing out that vasectomies arent guaranteed to be successfull.
So when you say go get a vasectomy, what if some guy does, but then changes his mind later in life and wants to have kids, he quite possibly wont be able to reverse his vasectomy, and then he's stuck with not being able to have his own kids. Adoption would be the only other option.

The female contraception pill is a much better option.
It has a 99% success rate and doesnt require surgery to come off the pills (like a vasectomy reversal would)

 

[Jenesis]

You are. 24/7.
Your posting history proves that


I'm only pointing out that vasectomies arent guaranteed to be successfull.
So when you say go get a vasectomy, what if some guy does, but then changes his mind later in life and wants to have kids, he quite possibly wont be able to reverse his vasectomy, and then he's stuck with not being able to have his own kids. Adoption would be the only other option.

The female contraception pill is a much better option.
It has a 99% success rate and doesnt require surgery to come off the pills (like a vasectomy reversal would)

Yes. Adopt. Fine. Sold.

The whole point of the debate was their are risks with sex and if you don't want to take those risk then do something about it yourself. Don't enjoy the sex and then put all the responsibility on the woman to care of the child afterwards. Which is what the poster was saying.

He was saying it was the mothers fault for not having an abortion when this low life father didn't want the kid. You can't come in half way through a debate, not debate the actual point and yet try to counter a counter point. You make no sense. Why are you in this thread then?

And no - I'm not angry. My posting history shows that. You just assume any challenge to you is someone being pissed off because it is easier to say that then deal with the actual issue at hand. So no - not angry.

EDIT - now we see where you stand since you liked his comment. You agree. All the responsibility is on the woman. Why am I not surprised? You take no responsibility for your comments on this board, I can certainly see you taking no responsibility for your actions in the bedroom.

 

[Jenesis]

I'm certainly not going to undergo invasive surgery in order to have recreational sex.

As stated previously, the rules of engagement are understood whether it's sex with an SP, a bootycall, or a girlfriend.

A woman that decides to go to term and have a kid when the man doesn't want one is a woman acting in bad faith, and she should shoulder the sole responsibility of her exclusive decision to procreate.

Again - thankfully there are laws against people who think like you.

 

[Jenesis]

If I want kids, they're going to be my biological kids.

Both parties assume the risks of sex which is STIs and pregnancy.

Having a child is not a risk. It's a decision (with a 6 month window). And that decision rests on the mother alone.

So yes, it's on her if she proceeds without the blessings of the man.

So don't be a dad, but you will be a wallet. That is the risk you take. Period. You can come in try to deny it is a risk all you want, but reality is - it is a risk.

I'm done with you. We are never going to agree and like I said - thankfully there are laws for people who think like you. So it's you who loses. Or the unwanted child you end having or have already had. But either way, I don't have to deal with you anymore. Last word is yours. I don't need it.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And no - I'm not angry

You are constantly abrasive and angry.

The point I was making its unfair to ask the man in a relationship to get a vasectomy, since the reversal rate is quite poor.
Also your previous point of "just dont have sex" is unrealistic

So wrap it up or don't have sex

 

[Jenesis]

You are constantly abrasive and angry.

That is YOUR opinion. Doesn't make it true.

I'm not debate the rest with you because you clearly agree with him. I have said my piece on it. Not like you were actually debating the points anyways. You just wanted to comment to me since you failed with your comments in the cyclist thread. We both know that. LOL.

Have the last word Philly. We both know you need that as well.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That is YOUR opinion. Doesn't make it true

Its not just my opinion

 

[HungSowel]

How about we legalize the beating of pregnant women? Not to the face, only to the stomach.

 

[massman]

Back on topic. IDGAF if the scumbag didn’t want a kid. Taking it out on the kid by abusing and torturing the little guy, resulting in his death is beyond disgusting. The guy is a waste of breath and skin. Hope he rots.