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AITA: Todd and Chris’s story

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So Todd and Chris are brothers. They are about 6 years apart. When Todd was born, he had to stay in the NICU for about a month and because of that, and him being the last child, he was spoiled. He always needs to be the center of attention and their parents never step up to do anything about it. It is too the point that Todd will do something during special family events to stand out and shine. Including announcing his GF’s pregnancy at their sister’s baby shower {In case you don’t know guys, this is a big no-no}

Fast forward a few months and Chris is getting married to his GF, Abby. While out doing groomsmen things, Chris’s BF sees a receipt that falls out of Todd’s pocket. Asking what it was about, Todd admitted he was planning to propose to his GF. Chris’s BF told Chris and Chris called Todd and uninvited him to the wedding knowing that Todd would likely do it at the wedding As per his MO.

Todd cries to their parents and they say that Chris is in the wrong because Todd never said he was going to do that. So Chris relented and said Todd could come, as a guest, no longer a groomsmen and that if Todd did propose to his GF during the wedding - he would regret it.

Fast forward again now to the wedding day. Sure enough Todd decided to propose to his GF, during the Father/Daughter Dance! Chris, his now wife and his wife’s family are all pissed but Chris’s family, parents included where overjoyed and paying attention to Todd and his GF.

What Todd didn’t know was that Chris and his BF had a plan. Enter Michelle. A friend of the BF. She storms in, yells at Todd claiming to be his GF and that she is pregnant. Todd is denying he even knows this woman, because he doesn’t, but Chris got a hold of Todd‘s phone and added Michelle as a contact, so when Michelle said she would prove it by calling him, his phone rang and ”Micheal” came up on the phone.

Todd’s actual GF threw the ring back and left the wedding. Todd figured it out right away when he saw the grin on Chris’s face.

Chris goes on his honeymoon and doesn’t reply to any texts or calls from Todd, their parents or anyone from his family side.

When he comes back home, he is being called all sorts of things and Todd and their parents tell Chris that he has to clear Todd’s name. That Todd’s GF has kicked him out and won‘t let him see his kid. Todd has yet to even apologize for doing the proposal at the Chris’s wedding

So is Chris the asshole here or is Todd? Todd was warned after all. But did Chris take it too far? Should Chris clear Todd’s name? Or wait until Todd apologizes first? What do you think of this one?
 
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Sorry, can't deal with this now.

Still trying to figure out what to call a person with male genitalia showering with persons with female genitals (pussies).
 
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I'm thinking inflation is driving prices up everywhere. Wait times for medical care are intolerable. There is a very real threat of an escalation in the war in the Ukraine. Politics is being viewed through a divisive racial lense.

Who cares about this trivial stuff.....
Sometimes it is better to take one’s mind off all the bullshit. Even if for 5 mins.
 

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Sometimes it is better to take one’s mind off all the bullshit. Even if for 5 mins.
Okay the since you said that. Chris torpedoed his brothers relationship with his GF and their daughter. Affecting a relationship between a father and daughter is egregious. His payback was over the line here.
 

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I say both at fault
Both being childish
Both pig headed.
Both need a kick in the arse.

But that's not allowable in these times. So like my grandkids, both sit over there in opposite corners for a time out. If you talk or protest it, its doubled. Continue & quadruple, etc.
I've never had to go past a double.
If I had to decide on 1, its the wedding day.... let the bride & groom have their day. Pop the question the next day at the after wedding brunch or while they are on their honeymoon.
Doing on their wedding day wrecks their special day. Would be like asking her to marry you at your grandma's or parent funeral as they are about to start the celebration of life or part way through it when you shared uour thoughts on grandma, oh yeah, Lisa will you marry me too BTW.
Plus the girlfriend wants her own special moment, not shared at a family wedding during the 1st dance or father daughter dance.
 

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Both brothers are at fault. The brother (Todd) proposing to his GF at his brother's wedding is a so stupid and undignified. It's his brother's (Chris) wedding where the attention should be on the bride and groom. Todd should be taken behind a barn and have the crap kicked out of him for being such an attention seeker at the expense of others.
As for Chris, he's no angel either. What he did to ruin Todd & his GFs relationship was way over the line.

The real blame is the parents for not taking control of their kids when they were young but allowed Todd to always be the center of attention regardless of who was offended.

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I think both are assholes, but Chris took it a bit too far and needs to clear Todd's name.
 
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Okay the since you said that. Chris torpedoed his brothers relationship with his GF and their daughter. Affecting a relationship between a father and daughter is egregious. His payback was over the line here.
I agree.

Todd’s behaviour was annoying and selfish but in the end he did not hurt anyone. Chris retaliated by completely destroying Todd’s life…it is vindictive and entirely out of proportion to the the provocation.
 

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I agree.

Todd’s behaviour was annoying and selfish but in the end he did not hurt anyone. Chris retaliated by completely destroying Todd’s life…it is vindictive and entirely out of proportion to the the provocation.
I agree it wasn't commensurate...
 

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Okay the since you said that. Chris torpedoed his brothers relationship with his GF and their daughter. Affecting a relationship between a father and daughter is egregious. His payback was over the line here.
I agree - as soon as I read the part that his GF would not let Todd see his kid - that was just too much. But this has really divided the net surprisingly.

For once a TERB seems like the common sense team in this. LOL
 

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Come on TERB & common sense
Say it ain't so
.... PC leader Mike Harris slogan that made cuts to almost every govt agency & now lead lobbyist or head of the private LTC owners association that lobbied Doug Ford to cut inspections & enforcement at private LTC.
See what that got us.
 
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Assuming the story is real, I'd say the parents are the assholes for raising the kind of douche that would make someone else's wedding all about him & raising another kind of douche who thinks it's ok to wreck someone's relationship over it.
 

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I assume real based on the sub reddit
I think about half of AITA is fiction.

Both are assholes, but Chris's retaliation was not proportionate and therefore is the bigger asshole.
 
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