Al-Jezeera Coming to your living room

[peteeey]

Re: Different channels, different truths

Re: Rogers: I would not make statements/claims unless I was absolutely sure. Someone I know recently married a Rogers family member, and he had to wear a yarmulke in order to gain entry. [/B]

FYI, Selina. Non-Jews are not obligated to wear a yarmulke in a synagogue. It's their choice to wear or not wear one.

Jewish people have respect for other religions. Something you should follow.

 

[Von Wigglestaff]

Hey Selina.....I'm still angling for thee.

Dont be so hard on Stephen Harper, all he did wrong was pull an Al Gore.

In spite of all the mistakes it's made Israel is still a democracy. The ruling of their Supreme Court against the Palestinian partition proves that. But I laugh uproariously when they clam that al-Jazeera is Anti-Semitic, when have Arabs stopped being Semites?


The ruling against RAI International is almost as bad. TLN has been piggy-backing on their New York feed for years. The issues between the two broadcasts have never been resolved and football fans, like myself, are forced to watch calcio from an ESPN feed.

...that's like you giving me a lingerie request and I ask for bloomers.

 

[Talerion]

Re: Re: Different channels, different truths

Rogers is jewish???

Must have changed the name then. Wouldn't completely surprise me.

But rogers is also a publically traded company. Mind you, he has never made a dime for his share holders and is choking the the blue jays.

I hate that new uniform / logo.

He didn't change his name. His father made some incredible improvements and discoveries with the radio earning himself a Knighthood I believe. He was the original Rogers, but upon his death the family lost the Standard Radio Corporation (the same Standard that CFRB is a part of today - I believe the RB is Rogers Batteryless since one of his inventions made it possible for radios to use AC current so they could be plugged into a household circuit - and also why he has tried so hard for so long to retake control of CFRB & Standard).

However yes it is a publicly traded company and that would probably over ride and religious differences about allowing the network to join their service.

T.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Some of you tree-huggers should think about what they stand for, and it ain't freedom for the decadent western civilizations.

o.k. let the slings and arrows of the " freedom of speechers " begin. Next we'll be lecting the N-Dippers to bring free everything to all.

Memo from gjus:

You were offered a chance to evolve. Sadly, you didn't. You're now irrelevant until you evolve. Good luck

 

[Talerion]

Re: Occupation means war

Of course I expected to be labeled a bigot in a very typical display of defensive posturing.

I confirmed with Rogers today that they will not be carrying Al Jazeera, and in fact are currently investigating the origins of the FALSE statement that they were a key factor in it's CRTC approval.

While I have no insight as to whether or not you are a bigot I think it reasonable that you should display the same sensitivity that the Jewish organizations are demanding from Al-Jezeera. As such coming up with inflammatory single line phrases like:

"Rogers is owned by Jews" or "Muslims are terrorists" is most likely to elicit a negative response.

As per "where did the public get the idea that Rogers was in favour of offering the Al-Jezeer service?

"Tanta Gupta of Rogers Cable says her company plans to offer Al-Jazeera too, as soon as the company's application is accepted."

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/14/al-jazeera030314

Maybe they are back tracking now?


T.

 

[scouser1]

interesting arguments here that I have just read, but as an Arab speaker and someone who has this station let me tell you Al Jazeera is no better or worse than Fox News and some of the characters that station has on ie Bill O'Reilly and Oliver North. Sure they interview some wacked out crazies but hey dont forget we are dealing with the Middle East here. But the whole RAI ruling doesnt anyone find it interesting that they were turned down after the election because of fears by a certain ruling party now that didnt want to upset a chunk of their voters who traditionally vote for the Liberals, i am talking about those of Italian descent, things that make you go hmmmm

 

[Talerion]

True words of wisdom well spoken . For too long a lot of canadians felt they were superior to " foreigners " because they dressed differently or spoke a different language.
Viva the cultural differences and the food.

WHOA WHOA WHOA!

I can put up with different dress, culture, language and even religion... but one has to draw the line somewhere... DIFFERENT FOOD?

Hmm....

As an aside for anyone who likes the sample 'different food' every weekend of the summer at Harbourfront in the tent near the stage is a themed weekend where they have all sorts of foods served up by local people and restaurants of various cultures, regions and themes. One of the few chances to get a decent Roti or munch down on Senegalese etc. delicacies!


T.

 

[Talerion]

Re: Re: Different channels, different truths

FYI, Selina. Non-Jews are not obligated to wear a yarmulke in a synagogue. It's their choice to wear or not wear one.

Jewish people have respect for other religions. Something you should follow.

... and let's not forget the smoked meat! Man I miss living near Lawrence and Bathurst...


T.

 

[Talerion]

Re: Re: Re: Different channels, different truths

Now you tell me! I was at a Jewish wedding not too many years ago in a synagogue and it sure didn't seem optional as I was entering the place. I didn't see ANYONE else not wearing one either or I'd have noticed. It may be optional but I think not wearing one is viewed as "inappropriate" so it is just assumed that you'll comply.

You have it right NN. I may be a full fledged atheist but on those occassions where circumstances place me in a church I bow my head when they say, "let us pray" etc. so as to show my respect for being in their place of worship.

It isn't against any rules that while they I pray I make a bee line to the aisle and use the opportunity to do some push ups while they do their thing. It just isn't appropriate.


T.

 

[Marco]

Not Good

Its bad enough they have to have CNN. But now this?

As bad as CNN is at least they don't show decapitations on their station. Is it true that this Aljeezera did?

This is like allowing the Neo Nazi Network on during World War II

Completely unacceptable. Our only hope is if the Jewish groups put up a major outcry and get them back off the air.

 

[peteeey]

Re: Re: Re: Different channels, different truths

You must be referring to Coleman's deli. Been around at least since the early '60s. A real gem.

... and let's not forget the smoked meat! Man I miss living near Lawrence and Bathurst...


T.

 

[brat_man_7]

It's a fact that you're a bigot. You also probably believe that all Jews are ardent supporters of Israel.

Wait, maybe you're right. Look at all the Zionist organizations Mr. Rogers belongs to:

TED ROGERS(Edward Samuel Rogers). Born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 27 May 1933. Educated at the Upper Canada College in Toronto; The University of Toronto, Trinity College, B.A., 1956; Osgoode Law School, LL.B., 1961. Married Loretta Anne Robinson, 1963, children: Lisa Anne, Edward Samuel, Melinda Mary, and Martha Loretta. Read law for Tory, Tory, DesLauriers & Binnington; called to bar of Ontario, 1962; established Rogers Communications in 1967; currently president and CEO of Rogers Communications, Inc.; also a director of the Toronto-Dominion Bank, the Canada Publishing Corporation, the Hull Group, Wellesley Hospital, and Junior Achievement of Canada. Address: P.O. Box 249, Toronto-Dominion Centre, Suite 2600, Commercial Union Tower, Toronto, Ontario M5K 1J5

What's your point?

 

[peteeey]

My point is Selina is a bigot for that unfounded, stupid statement she made.

What's your point?

 

[Manji]

Bigot for what statement?
That stating Ted Rogers was Jewish?
Or that Rogers was trying to block Al Jazeera from broadcasting in Canada?

Just because a person is wrong, doesn't mean that they are bigot. At worst, it just means that person is uninformed (though I really can't who is right or wrong on this one).

 

[booboobear]

WHOA WHOA WHOA!

I can put up with different dress, culture, language and even religion... but one has to draw the line somewhere... DIFFERENT FOOD?

Hmm....

As an aside for anyone who likes the sample 'different food' every weekend of the summer at Harbourfront in the tent near the stage !


T.

Guess where I was this weekend same place Harbourfront.

Know what you mean good stuff

 

[lenharper]

To anyone who is actually interested why not watch "Control Room" a documentary about this station's coverage of the Gulf War. Sure they have bias' like every other journalist but I wouldn't call them the mouthpiece of Osama.

In fact I thought the documentary did a good job of putting a human face on all the participants in the gulf War from the Americans to the Iraqi's.

 

[Musketeer]

Fed-up!

Al-Jeezera......what's this country coming to!!!! Multiculturalism running rampant.

Now they even want the Ontario government to allow Islamic 'saria' courts.

These courts in fundamentalist Muslim countries, allow women to be stoned to death, and allow the hanging of 'heretics,' and moderates from cranes. Great!!!!! Now, they want to impose their 'Middle Ages' mentality in Ontario. Whatever happened to separation of Church and state. Britain said "NO" to such courts as did France and Germany. We should too!!!

No matter' how modidied these courts will be in Ontario, it's still designed to 'put down women,' and an affront to civil libertarians.

So why aren't all the feminists and civil rights folk screaming?

 

[lenharper]

You're fed up.

Well I'm fed up reading screeds like yours.

WTF does the CRTC letting Al Jeezera broadcast in Canada have to do with 'saria' courts? Well the answer is, NOTHING AT ALL. Maybe, just maybe, if people like yourself got some exposure to the Muslim world through media like Al Jeezera (with it's female broaddcasters, producers and executives) you might not be so narrow minded as to paint all contemporary Muslims with the same brush.

Go watch the documentary and then tell me how the hell letting another broadcaster (one that goes through all the mental gymnastics any newsgathering organization does with regards to bias etc) onto our multi channel universe is going to cause the creation of courts in Canada that advocate stoning women to death.

Every once in a while I read a post and all I can think is, yes indeed, we do get the governments we deserve.

 

[loaded]

Re: Fed-up!

So why aren't all the feminists and civil rights folk screaming?

They are...
the real question is how and why would a naive bigot like you know about it.... go to france or england, I hear muslim bashing is publicly tolerated....

 

[Musketeer]

Aboriginal Courts.....

First of all, let me state emphatically that I am not a bigot. I clearly believe in the separation of Church and state in the matter of government and courts of law. That used to be the way it was in Canada, until recently.

I am opposed to all courts that have a religious affiliation in a western democracy, whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim. And I am a Roman Catholic. I believe our founding countries, Britain and France are right on, by not allowing the establishment of such courts, as are our neighbours to the south.

As for aboriginal courts, I fully support their establishment, as they are Canada's "First Nations," and are based on tribal laws and customs, not on religion. As matriarchal societies, aboriginal peoples do not seek out their women to discriminate against, nor for that matter, any other group in society.

I believe in the rights of all citizens to a life of 'liberty, equality and fraternity,' and to judged equally before the law of the land!

So loaded, watch who you call a naive bigot.....I'm not into name calling.....but you do sound very intolerant yourself of the opinions of other people. Having lived in Europe and travelled in Britain and France I am not aware of any Muslim bashing! Quite the opposite. If anything, much to my dismay, it's anti-semitism!