Esco! said:Is it safe to say Alec and Kim wont getting back together anytime soon??!!!
What if littleTommy C got them into scientology, maybe that would help. those thetans build up in us you know.
Actually, Gb is likely full of thetans, evil bear.
Alec Baldwin leaves msg for his daughter
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What if littleTommy C got them into scientology, maybe that would help. those thetans build up in us you know.
Actually, Gb is likely full of thetans, evil bear.
It is horrible to be a parent in a bitter custody battle like that, having it be public would make it worse. That being said, Alec Baldwin is a pompous yet talentless ass, and I am not unhappy to see him humiliated in this manner, given how condescending he has been in the past.
the message left for the kid isn't that bad.... I hear parents say worse to kids every day here in Brampton...(not that I can always understand their language, but it's still mostly english...) the message is not nearly as bad as whoever 'leaked' that message from the kid's phone to the media.
now the kid's gonna hear all about it at school, etc... i'd say there some selfish anomosity going on on the other side of the family. i'd blame Big Lips KB for this.
now the kid's gonna hear all about it at school, etc... i'd say there some selfish anomosity going on on the other side of the family. i'd blame Big Lips KB for this.
He is right to be responding to parental alienation emotionally. He is also right to bring it to his 11 or 12 year old daughter and give her a wake up call. Kids need to learn consideration at that age. Especially if they have access to a phone and choose not to make the effort. If she is being isolated by her mother she can bring that issue to her fathers attention during her scheduled visits. If she doesn't then she isn't concerned and that's wrong. Clearly she has not been doing that but has left him flapping. Mainly because she does not yet understand how things work in that dynamic.
He was definitely wrong to call her those terrible names or try to make her take responsibility for how he feels. He would have been right to let his daughter know bad he feels and how much he misses her.
I have been through it. I have told my kids off for doing similar things. Not in those terms. Thanks to our "discussions" they developed a better understanding. They are older now and remember and understand. They have come to realize just how much she was being isolated from not only me, but a whole lifetime of experiences that her mother deprived her of because she was too effed in the head to promote a healthy development of interests.
Until he gets help his visitation should be supervised. But it should also be enforced and structured until hi sdaughter is old enough to really decide if she wants to cut him off.
He was definitely wrong to call her those terrible names or try to make her take responsibility for how he feels. He would have been right to let his daughter know bad he feels and how much he misses her.
I have been through it. I have told my kids off for doing similar things. Not in those terms. Thanks to our "discussions" they developed a better understanding. They are older now and remember and understand. They have come to realize just how much she was being isolated from not only me, but a whole lifetime of experiences that her mother deprived her of because she was too effed in the head to promote a healthy development of interests.
Until he gets help his visitation should be supervised. But it should also be enforced and structured until hi sdaughter is old enough to really decide if she wants to cut him off.
A little bit of parental tough love never hurt any kid. Otherwise, they will grow up to be irresponsible like a Lindsay Lohan or Britney Spears or much worse like that Virginia Tech gunman. Trouble in to-day's society is that any parental discipline is considered child abuse. Kids to-day have no respect.WhaWhaWha said:
He sounds like a good father. Seriously. She's probably a spoiled little rich bitch who NEEDS to be told to smarten the hell up and start respecting other people and meeting her commitments. If he let her walk all over him she'd grow up completely narcissistic; at least he's making an effort to keep her grounded. She probably needs a good spanking too. But that's probably too horrific for some of you to even think about.
Are you kidding? I've heard parents get so pissed at their kids they made Baldwin sound like a saint. My mother give me a well deserved tongue lashing when the cops brought me home on night, (I think I was 13) and I deserved it. And I became better for it. (I think)TheNiteHwk said:No excuse what so ever IMO for talking to a 12 y/o kid like that. None.
Hello ---- She is 12 years old. Maybe 11. He does not even know her age. AND he says so to her. Wonder how that makes her feel. Her own Dad don't even know how old she is. REALLY! And just because other parents do it, that makes it OK? I am sure there are other ways to communicate to her what she did that made him so upset. He could take her phone away. (if the Mom let's him) And name calling, calling her a pig at the top of his voice several times... you think that's not going to have long term effect on her. Were she even 3 or 4 years older I would say he has a bit more leaway in how upset he is and call her on it. But 12 years old? No way.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
It was not a good message to have left for his daughter, and he shouldn't have. Is he having his "chain jerked" such that it is understandable that he could loose his temper, it certainly appears that way. Is someone in violation of a Court Order in having released this tape to the public - yes. Will a Judge have the "guts" to impose a meaningful fine or actually impose some prison time for the violation - that remains to be seen.
It was not a good message to have left for his daughter, and he shouldn't have. Is he having his "chain jerked" such that it is understandable that he could loose his temper, it certainly appears that way. Is someone in violation of a Court Order in having released this tape to the public - yes. Will a Judge have the "guts" to impose a meaningful fine or actually impose some prison time for the violation - that remains to be seen.
This was a small quarrel compared to the shit that goes on in some custody cases. My teenaged daughter lives with me. When she was 14 she got a letter from her mother's attorney telling her that she is no longer welcome in her mother's household but they can still get together for lunch if she wants. I tried to encourage a truce and received a letter from her lawyer as well telling me to cease and desist. She is almost 17 now and they have not yet had their first lunch. She phones her mother from time to time but her mother is officious and cold-hearted. The calls usually ends in frustration and tears. She tried to arrange many overnight visits but it took almost 2 years before her mother finally admitted that she had rented out her room. Apparently her border moved in the week after our daughter moved out. Baldwin may be a foul mouthed dumbass but at least he cares enough to get emotional and seek contact.
wow...WhaWhaWha said:
I agree with you on Baldwin.
My mother almost lost her divorce, but thankfully she had the marvelous idea to get more grip on my sister and make her lie and confess that my father had touched her the bad way when she was younger...
My point is just to mention how dirty some people can be when it comes to protect their ego. And as WhaWhaWha said, if you care enough and you live this kind of things, don't expect to act rationally.
She fucked up her daughters life and her ex husbands. Just to win a court case. What a crime.osanowo said:
I'm behind Baldwin on this matter. There is obviously a history of this happening, and what he said was emotional and a little heavy handed for a 12 yr. old. Divorce is an ugly thing to go through especially a media circus divorce like this one seems to be. His frusration could have manifested into a whole uglier tirade then what I heard. And for the record, I like his acting and comic timing. But if I met him or his Kennedy wannabe family I don't think I would like him.
Im sure Alec B is being "pushed to his limits" by things. Im sure Kim B is a nuclear bitch. But there is no way anyone should speak like that to a 11 or 12 year old child. Kim B is probably filling the poor kid with man hating propaganda. Hearing that crap from "Dad" cant help. The fact that she realeased the message makes her look even worse. What kind of mother would make public a private message to do with their child. He's an idiot and she is not thinking about the welfare of her child. I feel bad for the poor kid.
I suppose that those of you who agree with Baldwin, feel that he should back up his words by really teaching this brat a lesson. Maybe he should beat the shit out of the kid and lock her in a basement.
He shouldn't be allowed to see or speak to her ever again. Nobody deserves a father like him. If she isn't old enough to understand now, she will when she grows older - that her father is an asshole.
He shouldn't be allowed to see or speak to her ever again. Nobody deserves a father like him. If she isn't old enough to understand now, she will when she grows older - that her father is an asshole.
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