Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[LC18]

W hen I first started working as a lady of the night, rates were low, there were so many agencies and everyone was booked and busy. We had a very popular website to advertise that was known in the US and in Canada. I assume this was making things easier for American tourists coming here to meet ladies.

Things were easy, simple and booking same day was the norm. People weren’t really asking for screening because you just didn’t have time. It was the fast food era of escorting. You could call a woman like you’d call a pizza place, in less than an hour, she’d be there.

I remember people contacting me for 15 mins dates. I remember the person managing my ads accepting those calls even though I absolutely hated them.

After BP died, everything changed. Then COVID happened and really confirmed it was a new era. Women are shifting towards online services and never coming back. Agencies still exist but a lot of them are now incall only. Rates? Oh rates, they went up and it seems like it’s the longest discussion ever. Simply never ending…

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her. Girls just aren’t applying to agencies as much as they used to do there is definitely less “supply” and more demands

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not. There are now more than just one way to spend a session with a provider and you are going to see more people advertising alternatives.

I like it, I like fun dates, I like the ability to have a temporary boyfriend without all the negative aspects. I don’t have to cook for anyone, he doesn’t have to find my hair in the shower, we don’t need to have the awkward talk about how we’re going to split the household bills.

Always do what you want without feeling forced to fit into a mold

What do you like about this new era? No need to say what you don’t like, there’s at least one “it was better before” thread per week. Let’s be positive for once



TLDR: BP being gone, COVID happening, online services booming and men discovering they can pay for more than a quickie has brought a significant change in the industry. What do you like the most about it?

BP: Popular classified ad website that was raided by the FBI mid 2010s

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I am not surprised about men wanting to go on dates.
We have more people being single these days, so an escort date is uncomplicated fun.
Booking same day....I dont now.
I have never been able to book anyone I wanted to book the same day and the one or two occasions I went with another option, the dates were either bad or meh.
It has been this way in my opinion since atleast 2017 or 2018.

 

[lomotil]

W hen I first started working as a lady of the night, rates were low, there were so many agencies and everyone was booked and busy. We had a very popular website to advertise that was known in the US and in Canada. I assume this was making things easier for American tourists coming here to meet ladies.

Things were easy, simple and booking same day was the norm. People weren’t really asking for screening because you just didn’t have time. It was the fast food era of escorting. You could call a woman like you’d call a pizza place, in less than an hour, she’d be there.

I remember people contacting me for 15 mins dates. I remember the person managing my ads accepting those calls even though I absolutely hated them.

After BP died, everything changed. Then COVID happened and really confirmed it was a new era. Women are shifting towards online services and never coming back. Agencies still exist but a lot of them are now incall only. Rates? Oh rates, they went up and it seems like it’s the longest discussion ever. Simply never ending…

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her. Girls just aren’t applying to agencies as much as they used to do there is definitely less “supply” and more demands

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not. There are now more than just one way to spend a session with a provider and you are going to see more people advertising alternatives.

I like it, I like fun dates, I like the ability to have a temporary boyfriend without all the negative aspects. I don’t have to cook for anyone, he doesn’t have to find my hair in the shower, we don’t need to have the awkward talk about how we’re going to split the household bills.

Always do what you want without feeling forced to fit into a mold

What do you like about this new era? No need to say what you don’t like, there’s at least one “it was better before” thread per week. Let’s be positive for once



TLDR: BP being gone, COVID happening, online services booming and men discovering they can pay for more than a quickie has brought a significant change in the industry. What do you like the most about it?

BP: Popular classified ad website that was raided by the FBI mid 2010s

You changed as did the industry and society.
Online and “AI” are morphing the sex trade .
There is a lot of semantics now for what is essentially the same thing though

 

[onomatopoeia]

...Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more....

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/funny-business-model-rate-the-john.774425/#post-7403290

 

[Josephine]

W hen I first started working as a lady of the night, rates were low, there were so many agencies and everyone was booked and busy. We had a very popular website to advertise that was known in the US and in Canada. I assume this was making things easier for American tourists coming here to meet ladies.

Things were easy, simple and booking same day was the norm. People weren’t really asking for screening because you just didn’t have time. It was the fast food era of escorting. You could call a woman like you’d call a pizza place, in less than an hour, she’d be there.

I remember people contacting me for 15 mins dates. I remember the person managing my ads accepting those calls even though I absolutely hated them.

After BP died, everything changed. Then COVID happened and really confirmed it was a new era. Women are shifting towards online services and never coming back. Agencies still exist but a lot of them are now incall only. Rates? Oh rates, they went up and it seems like it’s the longest discussion ever. Simply never ending…

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her. Girls just aren’t applying to agencies as much as they used to do there is definitely less “supply” and more demands

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not. There are now more than just one way to spend a session with a provider and you are going to see more people advertising alternatives.

I like it, I like fun dates, I like the ability to have a temporary boyfriend without all the negative aspects. I don’t have to cook for anyone, he doesn’t have to find my hair in the shower, we don’t need to have the awkward talk about how we’re going to split the household bills.

Always do what you want without feeling forced to fit into a mold

What do you like about this new era? No need to say what you don’t like, there’s at least one “it was better before” thread per week. Let’s be positive for once



TLDR: BP being gone, COVID happening, online services booming and men discovering they can pay for more than a quickie has brought a significant change in the industry. What do you like the most about it?

BP: Popular classified ad website that was raided by the FBI mid 2010s

I feel like I can truly evolve as a companion more than a provider now. I am able to offer an experience and I truly feel like my clients are matching my energy. Finally!

I am really looking forward to working nowadays besides the casual burn out moment that we all go through. It was not the case when I was a factory many years ago. I love this new era. More human.

 

[xix]

@LC18
In Japan / Thailand they been doing this since the 70-80's.
Yes many things have changed.

Why have a girlfriend giving you a headache or using you when you can rent one and she is more willing to do things with a guy.
If an escort doesn't want to golf I am sure a man can find one that wants or does golf or fish.
With a gf it is a struggle, why struggle?

 

[y555y5555]

I love finding sugar babies in my price range and in return we both get what we want. Not just intimacy wise, but also doing other things together inside or outside. In the end we're both happy with one another than dealing with negatives like being nagged or someone after a year into a relationship or the honeymoon stage is done barely shows intimacy anymore. I haven't done that with SPs yet and there are a few who do offer date packages, but I find a SB overall better mainly because they all come in different price ranges. Escorts in general I find tend to be a lot more for the same thing I can get from a SB in my budget and overall get the same or more than perhaps the average escort rate. Plus I find a lot of SPs mostly are mechanical or lack showing interest. At least with a SB type thing she's not being a SP as in seeing a few diff people each week or new clients. It doesn't bother me if she's got a small client such as 3 or a bit more guys.

And yes none of this is even new. Not even in North America. I suppose with certain sites being shutdown some ladies have ventured into other things. Based on many reviews on here and what the market has out there a lot of it is heavily leaning towards mechanical, lack of interest, rushed and things like upselling based on what was already agreed upon on text. Quite a few young providers seem to have the mentality of barely putting in the effort to gain a few hundred in a very short time. There's good and bad on both sides from providers and clients. I mostly stick with sugar daddy sites these days and it takes a while similar to dating sites, but eventually can find people I have great chemistry with and we're both overall happy. The average SB PPM is typically around $400 which includes lots of fun in the bedroom and hanging out. Just being with a SP that same price range lasts about 2 hours only. YMMV.

 

[Patron]

The only thing that is certain in life is change. And the only variable in life that is certain to occur is change.

One other thing that has changed over time is the availability of alt and kink activities. It used to be that you would see a lady like five times before you would whisper in her ear, woukd you be okay with trying XXX? Now XXX is often listed on a lady’s offering menu page. I guess we can thank Cable Television and Online Porn for that change.

It doesn‘t really matter, since a person can’t control change, but I do wonder how many people like things better now versus long ago?

Of course, technology has been the biggest driver of change. It used to be that women had to be in a specific place for a long period of time for guys to go and fuck them in exchange for money. The smartphone changed that entirely. Even something as recent as Uber is a game changer.

Society is less rigid than it once was, and women don’t think in terms of relationships and marriage as much much. I know this goes back over 30 years ago, but I found it interesting that I had a friend who was a girl who was in law school. I also had a favorite hooker who did the circuit. Vegas, NYC, Alaska when they were building the pipeline, and her home in Florida. The girl in law school spoke of what kind of law she might practice if she got married and could put relatively less time into work. The hooker talked about how her lifestyle might change if she fell in love with a guy who worked in an auto garage and she couldn’t do the circuit. Women don’t think like that anymore, which might be good. But it has opened the door to all of this quasi-dating hooker/john interactions. If you like it, thank the homosexuals. A long time ago, everyone paid attention who everyone at a restaurant or event was there with. Now no-one give a shit, not even the blue blood old women. Hell, the marriage rate has been declining forever and families are smaller and people in neighborhoods and communities don’t even know each other any longer. No one knows or cares if the person you are with is daughter, niece, or Sugar Baby.

I guess the biggest change of all is income inequality and wealth distribution. More income and wealth is in the hands of a relatively smaller group. So the best looking and best performing escorts market themselves to this group at much higher prices than could have been imagined even a decade ago. Some are imposters, and sometimes a guy has to fuck around and find out to weed them out. The lower priced ladies are still out there on mass classified sites and most aren’t that great. But there are diamonds in the rough, and the guys who can’t pay the higher prices spend their careers finding them. When that happens, it is kind of like one of those heartwarming afterschool specials that always celebrated life and happiness among the lower and middle classes. I doubt if we could make it into an afterschool special though. Better to teach kids to be high on the hooker/john food chain, and high on the food chain of most things in life.

Bottom line is that if you have money and are not attached to old societal norms, we are living in good times. If you don’t have money and/or enjoyed living within reasonable boundaries with the camaraderie of a strong middle class where most goods and services cost about the same, you probably hate much of modern life, including seeing a sex worker.

 

[Krakatoa]

I disagree about the supply shrinking. Options have never been as plentiful. I can drive down any busy road in the city and pass 4 or 5 massage spas. Obviously there's varying degrees of quality. But you quickly learn which are good and which to avoid. Then there's the strip clubs that have some absolute smoke show beauties who will do extras if you choose to indulge. And then there's escorts. Escorts probably have changed: there's fewer good ones. So in that sense, you're right. Prices have gone up in part because of inflation and also because there's fewer good ones. But I disagree with your point about last minute cravings; there's so many options that you can always satisfy a spontaneous desires.

All depends on what you're in the mood for; some days you want a wholesome date with a temp girlfriend; dinner, movie and fun after. Other days you just want a quickie with a slutty hoe.. that can be fun too. Other times you want the strip club experience or you want the full body massage. Prices have gone up but not unreasonably. If you enjoy this hobby, and you have disposable income, then in my opinion, it's money well spent.

 

[kwestt]

i think that scene is very much alive, different from BP days but very much alive

it seems like you naturally moved into a different demographic

 

[southpaw]

Things change.

 

[Y_Diner]

Both

 

[y555y5555]

I agree it's hardly a new era, it's more so some ladies venturing into the SB world or so. It has its benefits and feels more human too as mentioned. You might see someone 2 or 3 times and realize they are stale either sexually or hanging out they become annoying so it's really not that different than seeing a SP perhaps once or twice and then moving on to the next person. Or no different than the dating world too where you don't pay as much so you date someone a short few times and then move on. A lot of SBs also will tell you what they are into and not sexually. If you have kinks and fetishes you let them know ahead of time and see if they are willing to accommodate that or even at a bit of a higher cost. Most times prior to even meeting up I'll ask questions and stuff so it's not a waste of time during some meet and greet if they are nervous to hangout at my place, their or some hotel. I've encountered some who wanted their PPM just for a meet and greet and nothing more and I passed when there's some who will put out the first hangout or are fine with doing a small meet and greet to break the ice and see if they still wanna continue things. With tons of sites and plenty of ladies out there I'm finding it a fun experience I'll indulge in a few times a year.

 

[lomotil]

@LC18
In Japan / Thailand they been doing this since the 70-80's.
Yes many things have changed.

Why have a girlfriend giving you a headache or using you when you can rent one and she is more willing to do things with a guy.
If an escort doesn't want to golf I am sure a man can find one that wants or does golf or fish.
With a gf it is a struggle, why struggle?

Japan has a negative birth rate for reasons like this. The countries that have arranged marriages with non dating cultures like India have huge populations and population growth.
In the GTA, so many young Indian families are present in contrast to the locals who have a negative population growth. The SB phenomenon is a contributing factor or at least a symptom of the times.
How will Canada look in a generation as there seems to be a replacement occurring?

 

[xix]

And yes none of this is even new. Not even in North America. I suppose with certain sites being shutdown some ladies have ventured into other things. Based on many reviews on here and what the market has out there a lot of it is heavily leaning towards mechanical, lack of interest, rushed and things like upselling based on what was already agreed upon on text. Quite a few young providers seem to have the mentality of barely putting in the effort to gain a few hundred in a very short time.

This statement ... towards mechanical, lack of interest, rushed and things like upselling .. seems to be every where not just Transactional Sex Industry - TSI-
I see this at work 1/2 people don't want to do the work and bullshit everything to the bosses, get promoted and they do less. And when things start to spiral out of control let's call the canned people to fix it. Even the canned people are walking away.

I don't see a mentioned of FWB - most men in this field are the 20 % 9+/10 in looks, enjoying themselves with the 100% women. But most women who are 6+ / 10 are in FWB or SB. Sooner or later or at the same time they may be in both fields of FWB / SB. The 8+/10 women will not go to SB unless they have quit their jobs or retired because they work for the government or a high paying job so it is not about the money. Just the thrill or excitement as they believe and don't want someone else to know.

So the above statement is also changing the TSI in a certain way. IF there was not FWB there would be more men in TSI or the bars.

 

[kherg007]

It may also be a newer generation of blokes who haven't dated. To chat up a lovely lady is terrifying to them. They have to do it through instagram or whatever. Thus, to go straight to the pro and into the 1-3 hour relationship, skipping over the stressful fear of rejection part, may better suit them.

In my day we had no choice, we had to speak face to face. Hence I never had a gf til uni lol. To terrified in high school.

As an older bloke I love my regs, and (credit to them) they treat me like they like me and enjoy my company (I'm realstic about this; see my signature below) and i truly adore them for it. So i do get a gf buzz everytime we get together. It really adds to the attraction. And as Lena said, all the positives of a relationship and none of the negatives.

I do travel to some places including places with legal inexpensive (appx $150 ph) brothels with government mandated health inspections for the ladies but many are weak on English and on limited work permits and so connecting w them is very difficult and it does not appeal to me (maybe younger me where the hormones were more likely to steer the boat lol).

 

[LC18]

I just think that doing activities + sex makes it a real GFE. Things you’d do with your girlfriend except arguing and washing the dishes

 

[kherg007]

I just think that doing activities + sex makes it a real GFE. Things you’d do with your girlfriend except arguing and washing the dishes

Well i do offer a live in BF experience. For a minor uncharge, I leave laundry on the floor, dirty dishes in the sink, and we have sex in between periods of the hockey game on the telly.

 

[LC18]

Well i do offer a live in BF experience. For a minor uncharge, I leave laundry on the floor, dirty dishes in the sink, and we have sex in between periods of the hockey game on the telly.

It comes with an Australian accent right?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

I trade stocks every day the market is open, so I need to stay informed about both domestic and global economic developments. Over the past five years, nearly every kind of financial transaction has changed significantly, largely due to the effects of COVID and the economic policies Trump. We've seen accumulated inflation rise to around 20–25%, compared to less than 5% over typical five-year spans before.
In previous years, incomes steadily increased, and job opportunities were more plentiful. That’s no longer the case. For consumers, prices were far more affordable back then, and there were more options available. When it comes to service providers, those who are already established with a loyal client base have been able to continue operating. But for part-time SPs those who might have only worked one or two days a week, it’s no longer worth waiting around for calls that may never come.
There's also much less cash circulating under the table. Bars and restaurants are now required to use Point‑of‑Sale (POS) systems that track every order, even before it reaches your table. The government has tightened enforcement, especially in places like flea markets that used to be hubs for tax-free cash transactions. Many businesses have had to adapt to this new level of oversight.
If you’re seeing men book longer appointments rather than just quick visits, it’s likely because they’re older and financially stable enough to afford the extended time. On the other hand, you may be seeing fewer men in the 35–50 age range booking standard one-hour sessions.