Angry Dad Castrates his teen daughter's 57 year old boyfriend

[Questor]

So a 57yo guy is seeing a 17yo girl? And several of the posters here think it's ok for the father to cut the guy's balls off with a breadknife. they say that's what they themselves would do in his position!

does this make you despair of the human race? is there any hope for our culture, if we instil our scum with so fragile a hold on the basic principles of morality and justice?

The relationship was consensual, according to police. So whose business is it, but the couple's own? You might not be deliriously happy for your daughter to be in such a relationship, but if that's what she wants, hey.

do you realize, we actually know of several people (e.g simon482, onthebottom, mac-eng1985), here, on this board, who, if their daughter were to date someone they don't approve of, would willingly castrate the guy!

Thank you god for arranging the world so that I am not beholden to pondlife like that. My commiserations to those not so fortunate.

Agreed. These individuals are no better than taliban.

The father will most certainly be charged. However the case will be thrown out of court because the evidence would not stand up.

Nothing funny about a guy getting castrated by a deranged idiot. For your next joke, try one about female genital mutilation.

I've also been disturbed by some of the comments in this thread, though I wasn't sure what to say about them. I guess that personally I feel like 17 year olds make lots of stupid decisions about which other 17 year olds to sleep with, so I don't know why it's automatically so much bigger a deal when they make stupid decisions about which much older people to sleep with. Perhaps more importantly, however incompetent 17 year olds may sometimes be to make decisions for themselves, their parents are often as bad or worse judges of what they should be doing (certainly comments in this thread haven't reassured me about the wisdom of parents), and you have to let them make their own mistakes sometimes. When a guy chops off his 17 year old daughter's boyfriend's balls, if the daughter's on the boyfriend's side, my inclination is to wonder how much other crazy bad shit this maniac is doing to control his poor daughter's life.

Well said. I'd rather not have father who was crazy violent in controlling the behavior of one's daughter. I expect the behavior spills over into other areas of the relationship. To call it extremely disfunctional is being kind.

 

[papasmerf]

This doen't have to be as bad as it looks....If I was dating a woman 40 years old, I too could be older than her father......Whats so bad there?????

A 40 year old woman dating a 75 year old man, shame on her and she is out for his money.

A 52 year old man dating a 17 year old girl is a freaking pedophile and out to control her.

 

[great bear]

A 40 year old woman dating a 75 year old man, shame on her and she is out for his money.

A 52 year old man dating a 17 year old girl is a freaking pedophile and out to control her.

Hey Papa, hope you had a great Christmas!! Cheers GB

 

[papasmerf]

Hey Papa, hope you had a great Christmas!! Cheers GB

I did indeed GB and yours?

 

[mandrill]

But don't you believe that leaving him there to "bleed out" might rise to a sufficient state of 'depraved mind'? Of course, another interesting addition in some jurisdictions would be Aggravated Attempted Murder, since there was an element of torture involved.

But the vic had access to a phone and medical assistance, once the perp left. So he was not necessarily abandoned to likely death.

The definition in s.229(a) of the CCC is subjective. "... bodily harm that he knows is likely to cause his death and is reckless as to whether death ensues or not." Not sure whether the perp here meets the subjective definition.

 

[mandrill]

Agreed. These individuals are no better than taliban.
Nothing funny about a guy getting castrated by a deranged idiot. For your next joke, try one about female genital mutilation.

Well said. I'd rather not have father who was crazy violent in controlling the behavior of one's daughter. I expect the behavior spills over into other areas of the relationship. To call it extremely disfunctional is being kind.

I agree with your assessment. And more importantly, the judge will agree also. The ball-cutter will look forward to a lifetime of sucking Bubba's cock and eating prison chow for his little moment of macho glory. All you dudes who boast about giving a beat-down to the "paedophile" would go down too. It's the law.

 

[GotGusto]

Hardy-har-har.
The 57 year old guy will win a big civil suit but then without a johnson what good is having a 17 year old girl friend and a bunch of money?

I imagine he will become more feminine (physically, personality) and may not even experience the urge for sex anymore because his body won't produce as much testosterone anymore. Basically he'll become a woman and will have no need for a 17 year old girlfriend. At 57, he'll probably have the most fun playing bingo.

 

[GotGusto]

A 52 year old man dating a 17 year old girl is a freaking pedophile and out to control her.

Not according to German law and the laws of many nations.

 

[papasmerf]

Not according to German law and the laws of many nations.

and as long as I launch or attempt a rescue I am not responsible for his drowning.

 

[simon482]

If she were 18 or 19 would your reaction be the same?

yup.

 

[papasmerf]

I agree with your assessment. And more importantly, the judge will agree also. The ball-cutter will look forward to a lifetime of sucking Bubba's cock and eating prison chow for his little moment of macho glory. All you dudes who boast about giving a beat-down to the "paedophile" would go down too. It's the law.

my bet is if it were my daughter the pedophile would ask to be imprisoned. Heck I would be willing to bet he would decline bail and parole.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Considering that this is an escort review board where many members are having extra-marital sex with girls as young as 18 (and that's just the listed age), AND given the fact that the age of consent in Germany (and many other countries) is 16 (and in Germany's case, it can be as low as 14 under certain circumstances and also as old as 18 under their "coercion" rules) I find the moral outrage on TERB of all places to be hypocritically laughable. Not only that, but I find the tone to be downright scary and inconsistent when measured against the other similar offences (see the various anti-Islamic/Taliban threads.)

Is the 57-year old a douche who probably couldn't get a date with a smart, independent and emotionally mature woman and is probably feeding his ego by dating this 17-year old? More than likely.

Does he deserve to get a beatdown? Only by the internet tough guys and hypocritical morality police. At most, I think he deserves to be ridiculed and ostracized for his obvious shortcomings.

Does the father of the 17-year old deserve a free pass for castrating the man? Not in my world. I hope he's charged and convicted of assault, attempted manslaughter and anything else they can think of. He's the clown who raised this girl that ended up dating a man more than thrice her age. He probably has (sub)conscious feelings of guilt or embarrassment.

Do I think the lame-ass German courts will do anything? Probably not. (And going back to the Monica Seles incident: to the poster that felt that because the man who stabbed Seles did not reoffend, the German courts got it right - give your head a shake. The physical and psychological trauma on Seles, not to mention the way her career as the #1 player in the world was effectively ended the day that obsessed psychopath stabbed her is more than enough to make that argument invalid.)

 

[fuji]

she's 8

Hmm. Look me up in 10 years and if she turns out hot.

 

[GotGusto]

yup.

Does the fact that the 17 year old was in a consensual relationship with a 57 year old man say anything about how she was raised and the quality of her parents?

In the end, the 17 year old girl in this case is going to relish to whole experience. A woman on TERB posted a few weeks back about a sexual experience she had when she was 16 and babysitting for a 40+ year old single father. He came back and had sex with her, fucked her ass, and she loved it. She says he went to a party and got drunk but you and I know he didn't get drunk because you can't stay hard if you're drunk. He was buzzed at the most and saw an opportunity while using drunkeness as an excuse. While the whole thing was a ploy and she was just a piece of ass to him, she interprets the experience to this day as a sexual awakening and holds no ill will towards the man. Of course, under any other circumstance his predatory behavior would have been interpreted by her as creepy. It's incredible. Situation, timing, and mood are so significant in female sexual behavior due to their emotional nature.

 

[harryass]

maybe dad can get off due to momentary insanity.


and perhaps Hugh Hefner should hire extra security.

 

[LateComer]

Not according to German law and the laws of many nations.

Including Canada - general age of consent is 16 (18 for pay for play).

 

[mandrill]

maybe dad can get off due to momentary insanity.

Legal "insanity" means you are incapable of appreciating the nature of your actions - i.e. the dog told you to hack Mom apart with a steak knife or else Mom would destroy the world with the death-beam that comes from the TV. The fact that this goon hired two buddies and got a knife and headed over to the vic's residence shows that he was sane. An asshole and a thug, yes. But sane.

He's going down like a stone.

And don't think that a German jury is going to disobey the judge's instructions and do their own thing. They're German. They'll do exactly what the judge tells them and probably salute at the end of the trial.

You know something else?? I bet this perp has a sheet of past convictions for harrassment, assault and other thuggery against his neighbours and pretty much everybody else in town.

The irony is this: For cutting off a pair of balls, the perp is going to have to spend the rest of his life kneeling down before stronger, more aggressive criminals and licking their balls and begging them to fuck him to avoid beatings.

 

[Questor]

Legal "insanity" means you are incapable of appreciating the nature of your actions - i.e. the dog told you to hack Mom apart with a steak knife or else Mom would destroy the world with the death-beam that comes from the TV. The fact that this goon hired two buddies and got a knife and headed over to the vic's residence shows that he was sane. An asshole and a thug, yes. But sane.

He's going down like a stone.

And don't think that a German jury is going to disobey the judge's instructions and do their own thing. They're German. They'll do exactly what the judge tells them and probably salute at the end of the trial.

You know something else?? I bet this perp has a sheet of past convictions for harrassment, assault and other thuggery against his neighbours and pretty much everybody else in town.

The irony is this: For cutting off a pair of balls, the perp is going to have to spend the rest of his life kneeling down before stronger, more aggressive criminals and licking their balls and begging them to fuck him to avoid beatings.

Praise the Lord Baby Jesus.

 

[DocOdd]

(And going back to the Monica Seles incident: to the poster that felt that because the man who stabbed Seles did not reoffend, the German courts got it right - give your head a shake. The physical and psychological trauma on Seles, not to mention the way her career as the #1 player in the world was effectively ended the day that obsessed psychopath stabbed her is more than enough to make that argument invalid.)

So if the courts had done something differently, the physical and psychological trauma would have been undone, and Seles' career restored? Or are you just bringing up irrelevancies?

 

[Captain Fantastic]

So if the courts had done something differently, the physical and psychological trauma would have been undone, and Seles' career restored? Or are you just bringing up irrelevancies?

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

But according to Ms. Seles, who was the victim, part of the reason it took so long for her to mentally recover was because of the lack of any real punishment for a person who stabbed her intentionally. She has refused to return to Germany since the incident and to this day is still appalled by the decision.

So if victim's rights are irrelevant to you, then so be it. I think that a victim and/or their family deserve a strong voice in the judicial process, particularly in a case of attempted murder ... like the one she suffered through.

Carry on.