Another rent question...

[justchecking]

Hi there,

I am currently renting a unit in a condo.

My rent has been the same for the past couple of years, with myself and my brother.

Until recently, we would like to have my mom move in with us, i ask the landlord to cut another key, me paying for it. And then the landlord now asking for more rent become of an additional person living in the unit.

Why does having 1 more person = more rent? it is a 2 bedroom unit, and we pay for the utilities as well.

your feedback is apprecated.

Thanks

JC

 

[fmahovalich]

Cause only two of you on the lease.


You might not have told him...however he would have found out!

More wear and tear...more water....more garbage...more everything!!

 

[LateComer]

No - can't do it. Also, as long as the unit is not overcrowded the landlord can't deny an additional related person.


This issue is probably covered here:

http://www.ltb.gov.on.ca/en/index.htm

 

[red]

Hi there,

I am currently renting a unit in a condo.

My rent has been the same for the past couple of years, with myself and my brother.

Until recently, we would like to have my mom move in with us, i ask the landlord to cut another key, me paying for it. And then the landlord now asking for more rent become of an additional person living in the unit.

Why does having 1 more person = more rent? it is a 2 bedroom unit, and we pay for the utilities as well.

your feedback is apprecated.

Thanks

JC

do you have a lease?

 

[justchecking]

well, year 1, a contract, year 2, a simply an acknowledgment letter for the rent, year 3 (currently), no written agreements and just gave 12 post dated checks

 

[Bobzilla]

When a tenancy continues on after the original lease period has expired, all conditions of the tenancy contained in the original agreement apply, except it's a month to month tenancy, ie. you're not required to stay for a set period of time. This does not change the notice you're required to give, btw...lots of people make that mistake.

 

[Hangman]

According to the LTB site, it looks like the landlord can't raise the rent based on occupancy.

However, you might as well start planning to move, because if he decides to be a dick about it thinking he deserves more money, then your quality of life will suffer. Its not right, but it's practical reality.

 

[pro123]

If your original lease say no more than the persons on the lease, your Landlord may be entitled to ask for more money.

 

[larry]

you need to look at your lease. it may say that only the tenants that signed it can occupy the property. then he can evict you. if you are evicted, you will have a tough time finding another landlord who will take you. your landlord is a poor businessman since he didn't raise the rent when he could. he can't raise it now either. by law. even if you agree. this is a very messy situation.

 

[KBear]

Landlord can raise the rent by the amount set by the government, think it is 3% with 90 days notice. One increase per year. Check the link in post #3 for the guidelines.

Would have been easier to cut your own keys, or go the management office for a key if it is something special.

 

[BAMan 55]

Rent controls do not apply to residential dwellings first occupied on or after November 1, 1991.

http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page6537.aspx

 

[jaycam]

If your original lease say no more than the persons on the lease, your Landlord may be entitled to ask for more money.

Not true. Period.

 

[jaycam]

Landlord can raise the rent by the amount set by the government, think it is 3% with 90 days notice. One increase per year. Check the link in post #3 for the guidelines.

Would have been easier to cut your own keys, or go the management office for a key if it is something special.

This is correct, one increase allowed per year. Landlord can apply to the LTB for an exception based on high fixed operation costs, but not because of anticipated wear and tear or number of occupants.

About the over crowding its a non issue. Two people for everyone bedroom is acceptable under common law

 

[jaycam]

you need to look at your lease. it may say that only the tenants that signed it can occupy the property. then he can evict you. if you are evicted, you will have a tough time finding another landlord who will take you. your landlord is a poor businessman since he didn't raise the rent when he could. he can't raise it now either. by law. even if you agree. this is a very messy situation.

The tenant is month to month, the landlord can raise the rent within the LTB guideline limits assuming the last increase was 12 or more months ago. Landlord will give 90 days written notice of the increase.

When there is a conflict against what is written in your Lease VS the LTB rules the LTB rules wins. If your lease says no pets, it cant be enforced because the LTB says you can have pets solong as they dont make unreasonable noise or bite anyone. Same deal for overcrowding, 2 bedroom unit can easily have 4 people without any issue.

 

[KBear]

... If your lease says no pets, it cant be enforced because the LTB says you can have pets solong as they dont make unreasonable noise or bite anyone. ...

For pets, the OP is in a condo, so the condo rules would apply. If the condo rules say no pets, then it is no pets. The lease should have a clause that says the tenant agrees to abide by the condo rules. the condo might have some rules about the number of occupants, but it would be more then 3 for a 2 bedroom, so does not matter in this case.

To the OP, cut your own key and don’t worry about your mother moving in. The landlord can increase the rent, but only by 3% or less.

 

[diehard]

Couldn't you make a copy of the key yourself? Why ask the LL?

 

[oldjones]

Like any other contract a lease—or a lease that continues beyond its stated term—is an agreement between the parties. Whatever the legalities, if you and the landlord don't come to some agreement about the changed circumstances, your days as of untroubled contented tenancy are likely finished unless you and the landlord get back to seeing eye-to-eye. Your years of trouble-free, reliable rent-paying give you a fair bit of negociating power, and better you should use it than be scanning the To Rent ads.

 

[Moraff]

Couldn't you make a copy of the key yourself? Why ask the LL?

Guessing it is one of those security keys.

 

[ctv250]

It's a 2-bedroom and it's going to be occupied by you, your brother and your mom. Who's sharing? Eww.

 

[Hangman]

It's a 2-bedroom and it's going to be occupied by you, your brother and your mom. Who's sharing? Eww.

Probably 2 bedroom plus den.