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AntiWar speach on the Oscars

Michael Moore Winner best Documentary
Whoa. On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this. I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to — they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much.
 
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I saw that too. Sometimes you could not hear him over all the "boos" There were alot of unhappy people about his speach. very big risk as a career choice in my opinion.

Kiarra
C'mon Kiarra, Hollywood has been producing anti-Capitalist films for years. Heard of Tim Robbins? Did you notice Steve Martin NOT mention republicians? The reason that was funny was, everyone knows Hollywood is full of leftists. So Michael Moore fits right in. He was booed because some leftists still support the war (e.g. Christopher Hitchens). The irony here is: Michael Moore is a Capitalist himself. You've got to love the United States, Moore, Chomsky et al make millions on bashing the United States -- why would anyone want to bring that idea of the American dream to Iraq and the Arab world? Yeah, stupid me, they would be better off having their natural rights being violated.
 

Don

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Funny he mentions how he likes "non-fiction" because "Bowling For Columbine" is more fiction than documentary. I watched the movie here in a theater and laughed in disbelief with my fellow toronto-ians at how Moore portrayed toronto.

I felt it was in bad taste personally. There probably many US soldiers overseas watching the Oscars for entertainment and to have to watch some rich entertainer from the country they are laying their life for, ridicule them must be hard to swallow.
 
I think Mr. Moore's comments were very appropriate given that the awards are presented to those individuals who excell at pretending to be someone else and telling lies with straight faces. The loud booing you heard was probably from all the Jewish producers in the audience. I suppose Mr. Moore will be writing the news for the CBC after he can't find another op in Hollywood.
 

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Oh no you have gone and said it now, jewish producers. LOL Mr Moore is a very brave man for saying what he did, i do not watch the Oscars because it is a joke like the movies they are making.
 

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How many people recal;l Rodger and ME???? More's first attempt at a film, based on a GM exec. The film criminalizes wealth in a time the US auto industry is suffering setbacks, from cheap foreign imports.

More is by far a leftist and by the flavor of this a die-hard student of Stallen.
 

zog

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Hmmm....

It seems to me that Mr. Moore was attempting to practice some of that famous "free speech" that's supposed to distinguish the USA from countries like Iraq.

I seem to recall a certain US President justifying an invasion in Iraq based, in part, on Iraq's totalitarian regime that stifles freedom.

Now that we know that Americans are not the champions of free speech after all, what does that say about their motives for war?

The point is not whether you agree with what he said...but if you are in favour of silencing him, you are not on the side of freedom.

Zog.
 
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zog

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Spelling

Thanks for the tip Goober!

By the way rule is spelled "r-u-l-e"...not "s-u-c-k".

I expect to see your sig-line corrected.

Zog.
 

Mrs_Stiffler

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I don't think Mr. Moore's comments were unexpected or really even unwelcome given the generally leftist audience, but I do think they were over done. The academy had agreed collectively to keep the Oscars to a low-key but still celebratory atmosphere. Steve Martin's sarcastic jabs at republicans, decreased glitter and shorter red carpet were well placed. Michael Moore went on for too long and with too much intensity, as befits his general movie making style as well.

The event was an awards ceremony, not a political forum. It wasn't the time or the place.
 
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monkeylove

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Freedom of speech ...

... means freedom of speech. Or does freedom only apply when one conforms? Bush gets to talk about God. Talk about time and place ...

Michael Moore certainly has balls. But I believe that everyone should "peacefully" stand for what they believe in! Both extremes usually exaggerate and usually have their own agendas. Everyone should be respectful of other’s beliefs and opinions as well as keep an open mind and be receptive to humanistic progress.

One Israeli’s perspective:

http://www.gush-shalom.org/archives/article237.html

Peace and Love baby!
 

Big Ben

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When he got the award almost everyone got up and cheered.

How Ironic, when he started speaking they all remained quite.

Big Ben
 

Cardinal Fang

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I do believe that Michael Moore has a right to say what he wants and where he wants. I just feel that the moment was not his to exploit. Would you bring this up at a friend's wedding. There is a time and place for statements like this to be made.

They were celebrating something the brings them together. The art of cinema. Michale will have plenty of interview to excerize his ammendments rights. As an admirerer of Michal Moore I felt that it was and still is in bad form.
 

zog

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It was OK when people made pro-war comments or anti-French/German comments...was it the time and place for those?
 

gramage

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isn't the point of an award show to give artists a forum? if Moore had said yay America this and boo anti-Americanism that he would be praised for his speech. well if your praised for voicing one opinion on a political subject how can it be inapropriate to voice the other side of it? thats like televising a debate and blocking a candidate because your concerned he'll say something controversial (poor little Ross Perot the little nutball never had a chance)
 

onthebottom

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It's always the right time

to make an anti French comment.

People don't really take Hollywood seriously do they? And Michael Moore, please....

OTB
 

zog

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I favour freedom, personally.

Careful now OTB. Given the current semantic trends, you have just made the following statement:

"It's always the right time to make an anti Freedom comment"

I'm pro-freedom myself, but I respect your right to express a dissenting view.

Zog.
 

onthebottom

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No no

when anti and French are used in proximity it negates the translation of French into Freedom. Didn't you get the memo?

OTB
 

zog

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Oops!

Sorry, I missed that meeting. I was getting a second helping of freedom toast with breakfast.

Zog.

P.S. Anyone know where I can buy some freedom ticklers?
 
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