Any mechanics out there?

artj

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who would pay $700 for front brakes. i think that's a ripp-off. i do mine my self at home and it never takes longger than 3 hours
 
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OnTheWayOut

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***Update***

Had my car towed by CAA, to a garage recommended by one of the members here, and it turns out I didn't need calipers. Just brake pads, and rotors for each side. Ended up paying only $260 compared to the $800 i was quoted!

So I 'd just like to say thank you for everyone's help!
You owe us all a beer!

Good for you to have enough sense to ask a bunch of horndog perverts about your car problem. Terb is NOT just for sex these days !!!!!!!!!!!

One question ..... CAA did the towing for free?
 

Doctor Zoidburg

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You get 2 towjobs if you are a member
 

Omnius

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Doctor Zoidburg said:
You get 2 towjobs if you are a member
ok... i WILLNOT bring up the obvious. Ok..ok..... I cant help it. Do we get 2 bl0wjobs for being a member in "good standing" on TERB?? LOL

BTW... which garage did you go to? Would be nice to know who the good guys are, not just the bad guys.
 

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artj said:
who would pay $700 for front brakes. i think that's a ripp-off. i do mine my self at home and it never takes longger than 3 hours
Well, do the math:

3 hrs at 70 and hr is $210.00
Parts: $400.00
Total $610.00

So you save yourself $210.00 but not everyone has the means, location, tools or ability to do their own brakes. Plus I don't know many that have a drum/rotor lathe in their basement either.

Just like I bet you don't do your own blowjobs, you either have a wife/gf/escort do it for you hehehehe

But then again, I can't understand why someone would pay $150.00 for a handjob/massage when they could have that and more for $200.00 +/=

I just want to add: I do sincerely hope you really didn't need calipers. If you did, and your "deal" didn't replace them, you may find yourself back in the garage in a month with worn out pads (if the calipers are warped, or stiff/seized you will warp the rotors and wear out the pads in no time flat).
 

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Calipers don't warp, rotors warp.
90% of the rotors in the USA, not sure what the story is in Canada, are made in China with crap steel and no nickel content. Rotors don't last like they did 10-20 yrs ago. Most rotors today are throw-aways and can't even be 'turned' once.

Any decent mechanic can do a ft disc brake job in an hour or less.
 

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tboy said:
Well, do the math:

3 hrs at 70 and hr is $210.00
Parts: $400.00
Total $610.00
3 hours, omg, maybe if that includes 2 hour lunch at a SC.
$400 for parts, pads are about $30. Fancy ceramic pads, which I doubt you are getting at the garage, are about $100.

I also have always replaced my own brakes and it is not a difficult job if all goes well. But I also have a mechanical background and some of the tools.
 

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In case anyone gives a rats ass

Semi loaded calipers retail out at $124.00 each for 1.8 litre engine and $96 for 2.5 litre engine
 

HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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WoodPeckr said:
Calipers don't warp, rotors warp.
90% of the rotors in the USA, not sure what the story is in Canada, are made in China with crap steel and no nickel content. Rotors don't last like they did 10-20 yrs ago. Most rotors today are throw-aways and can't even be 'turned' once.

Any decent mechanic can do a ft disc brake job in an hour or less.


If you prefered the brake disc that was availble years ago, they lasted longer because the metal alloy they used was harder and cost a lot more ( $80 - 120 ) Now a days the rotors go for $25 - 40, but they will still last you 100,000 kil. if you do not abuse or overheat them. Since they are made of a softer steel, they brake better than harder steel. In the long run you are better of this way.
 

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HAMSTER INSPECTOR said:
If you prefered the brake disc that was availble years ago, they lasted longer because the metal alloy they used was harder and cost a lot more ( $80 - 120 ) Now a days the rotors go for $25 - 40, but they will still last you 100,000 kil. if you do not abuse or overheat them. Since they are made of a softer steel, they brake better than harder steel. In the long run you are better of this way.
Yeah, I remember on (I think it was) a 1988 pontiac grand prix, replacement pads from the dealer were made with too much hardener in the pad compound. They were so hard they'd just slide across the rotor with very little friction....in other words, you didn't stop lol. There was a big recall on them before too many were put on vehicles.

As for the calipers warping. Yeah, maybe warping isn't the right term, would distorting be more appropriate? Sorry, they are basically hollow castings and many newer ones are made of aluminum or a lightweight alloy. Anything can distort if it gets hot enough and there is a tremendous amount of heat generated by a brake system. Especially on the front. (which is why many race braking systems use a LOT of ceramic and have ducts forcing air over the entire brake assembly at the wheel.
 

artj

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i always go to the cb when i'm working. it takes the stress off. therefore it takes about 3 hours. come-on.
 

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HAMSTER INSPECTOR said:
If you prefered the brake disc that was availble years ago, they lasted longer because the metal alloy they used was harder and cost a lot more....
Indeed they were better before....
The first disc brake pads I replaced were on a '72 Gran Torino Sport fastback, the same vehicle in that recent Clint Eastwood movie Gran Torino, only silver. Pads were changed by me twice, at 50,000 miles and 46,000 miles later, took 30 minutes both times, it was a simple job on Ford then. Ford calipers were machined so well you could push the cyclinder back in all the way with only your thumb pressure! Rotors were thick, looked like new and DIDN'T have to be turned at 50,000 OR 96,000 miles. There wasn't trace of shimmy or pulsation when braking. Those '72 rotors did not warp or rust, they had good nickel content in them! Put a tad over 100,000 miles on it before getting rid of it for a new '76 Ford Elite like this only in midnight blue. That '76 Elite was one of the BEST vehicles I've ever owned!

Fast forward today. For a second car, I have an '03 GM vehicle bought in '03. In 2006 at 42,500 miles it needed a ft brake job. Had to buy new rotors because the OEM rotors were so badly rusted and delaminated at only 42,500 miles they couldn't even be turned, plus there was noticeable pulsations when braking! It seems GM went back to using softer inferior steel in their rotors in that year. Poor steel rotors used in concert with semi-metallic disc pads just eats them crappy rotors up. For years I've always replaced OEM semi-metallic pads with Kevlar brake pads and had better service from them with no problems.
 

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Yeah, no doubt today's vehicles aren't battleships like they used to build. But since weight is a major concern now they scrimp wherever they can.

I remember the cars I owned in the 70's, the rotor's faces were a good 3/8" thick and you couldn't carry two at a time. But then again, the cars burned twice as much fuel to make less horsepower, they didn't have half the options you have now, they took twice as long to stop, and handled like tanks.

Yeah, you have that old saying: They don't build em like they used to and in my line of work? I quite often say: THANK GOD!!!
 

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Omnius said:
ok... i WILLNOT bring up the obvious. Ok..ok..... I cant help it. Do we get 2 bl0wjobs for being a member in "good standing" on TERB?? LOL

BTW... which garage did you go to? Would be nice to know who the good guys are, not just the bad guys.


You could ask the CAA guy ( the one with the ass crack showing from his low slung pants ) if he would give you the BJs with the towjob :D
 

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HAMSTER INSPECTOR said:
You could ask the CAA guy ( the one with the ass crack showing from his low slung pants ) if he would give you the BJs with the towjob :D
only if he was cute!!!!!!

eewwwwwwww LOL

i held terbites to such high standards. and now this?? u have sullied my virgin mind.
 

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Man whats a guy to do if he doesn't know about auto mechanics and he needs his car fixed... ?

Ya can't keep towing it from garage to garage to get quotes....
 

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Ross Eyerie said:
Man whats a guy to do if he doesn't know about auto mechanics and he needs his car fixed... ?
You have to find a reliable honest mechanic.
There are 101 ways to very easily get ripped off today if you know little about cars....and the shysters out there take advantage of this fact daily.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
You have to find a reliable honest mechanic.
There are 101 ways to very easily get ripped off today if you know little about cars....and the shysters out there take advantage of this fact daily.
Which is why since I was old enough to walk, I've read up and learned what I could about repairing cars etc. Whenever I encounter a person who owns a car and can't identify the fanbelt or doesn't know the basic concept of how an internal combustion chamber works or the basic systems of the car, I tell them "then you really shouldn't own a car".

Like buddy in the other thread who "thinks" his car is a standard....DOH.
 
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