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Anyone know anything about trees?

Macator2003

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First off what municipality do you reside in. I deal with representatives within some of the municipalities around the GTA and with a couple within the City of Toronto. You need to be aware of any local private tree bylaw. Toronto has one, as does the City of Mississauga. Also be aware of some misinformation. Municipalities will not take trees down from private property unless that tree or section of tree has fallen and is blocking the road allowance. A tree with a diameter of more than 8" (20 cm) cannot be transplanted or moved. You'd have to take a root ball proportionate to the trunk and canopy.

If you live in the City of Toronto (the former City of Toronto, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York and the former Borough of East York). Check out the City of Toronto's Forestry website which is:

http://www.toronto.ca/trees/index.htm

Look in the left column under private trees. Spend time reviewing the FAQ section. I quote:

"A permit is not required to remove trees which are dead, terminally diseased or hazardous. However, to confirm that a tree is exempt from the by-law due to its condition, a detailed arborist report must be faxed to Urban Forestry Services at 416-392-0963. You also do not require a permit to prune a tree in accordance with good arboricultural standards. For any tree work, we encourage you to retain the services of a Certified or Registered Consulting Arborist, a Registered Professional Forester or others with similar qualifications. You may find professional tree care companies listed under "Tree Service" in the Toronto yellow pages."

If the tree had no leaves this year, it’s dead.

Once you get the City's permission, taking a large tree down is best left to the experts, even if you aren't nervous about using a chainsaw in a tree. You can lose a finger or arm in a matter of seconds. The chainsaw can "kick back" and dig into your lungs or face. Sorry about being too graphic but this industry has one of the highest mortality/injury rates. Qualified Arborist have years of experience. Call 5 or 6 companies (or even more) and let them know that you are looking for a good price. Be aware that the cost is related to how big and accessible the tree is. Trees are usually measured by caliper (DBH) diameter at breast height -I'm not kidding. If your backyard is expansive and the company can "flop" the tree down, and its not too big a specimen, the costs you get should be reasonable. You've indicated that this tree is close to a building, it will need to be taken down in sections. If you can get an aerial truck into your yard, the removal can be done relatively quickly. This is usually not possible in a backyard situation and trained, qualified climbers (Arborist, tree care specialist) are required. Notice I didn’t say landscapers.

Make sure that the company that does the work is fully insured, in case the tree or a section goes the wrong way and lands on the neighbours (or your roof). Each piece needs to be lowered by rope, or rigging can be used so that the pieces are guided to the front of the property where a truck and chipper await.

Ask for an "A", "B" price and a "C" price. The "A" price is for removal, stumping and brush pick up. The "B" price is for removal and brush pick up and the "C" price is for removal only. If the removal can wait until the winter, you can save bucks. The companies are usually hungrier, there are no leaves (if the tree is deciduous) and the ground is usually frozen. Use the "C" price if you can grab some assistance from a couple of strong husky gorillas that don't mind spending up to a day cutting up and bundling brush.

On yard waste days, local municipalities will take a limited number of "bundles" provided they are no longer than 4' in length and tied. If one of your friends has a pick up truck or trailer, you can haul this stuff to the local transfer station. Just be aware that a crew with a good wood chipper can clean up a day's worth of brush in a half an hour (and think of all the woodchips you'll have for the garden. Depending on the type of tree, you can dry the trunkwood and the bigger limb wood (for a year) and use it in a woodstove/fireplace, or leave the cut pieces on your blvd. It’s surprising how fast they will disappear.

You don’t need to remove the stump. A growing trend is to leave them 8-12' high and invite a local wood carver in or leave them 4' high and put a birdhouse or planter on it.

Torex gave some good info about Asian Long Horned Beetle. Check out the site run by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for contact information and maps of infested areas.

Its: http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/plaveg/pestrava/anogla/asialonge.shtml or call 1-800-442-2342.

Good luck Chloe…..nice website by the way.

PM me if you want additional information or have questions.

After all, I am "Deep within the Forest"
 

C Dick

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It is amazing what you can learn on Terb. I can not add much to such an informative post, other than an experience I had. I had a tree that was about 12" in diameter, that was obviously dead. I have a chainsaw, but I was reluctant to try and cut it down, once I read the warnings in the chainsaw manual. So I left it to fall down, which it eventually did, on the fence but fortunately not on the house. It was amazing how it totally crushed the fence, it just exploded it. I was glad that I had not tried to cut it down or pull it down with a truck, it is too risky.
 

Dash

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The city is very picky about trees, and you have to call them first to make sure you're even allowed to cut it down.
It happened to my dad's place, and they said he couldn't cut it down so he and I snuck out in the middle of the night with a saw...you get the picture.
This post made me laugh so hard. I almost cried. Aw that mustve been a memorable time you keep forever of time shared with your dad. Awww... :)

Btw. When a son and his father are paired. They can commit all kinds of mischief.

Btw. Must've been fun having one guy keeping a look out while the other frantically worked the saw on that thick trunk lol
"Hey you! What are you doing down there!" Cries out a disgruntled neighbor from a balcony, woken by the suspicious noises" lol
 

MissCroft

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Thanks!

Wow! I agree it is amazing what you can learn on Terb which is why I posted the question here. Thanx for all the info and to those who pm'ed me. I am in the city of Toronto...I have a huge backyard so even 'pulling' the tree down shouldn't be a problem. Thanks again; I'm looking into all my options...:)

Chloe Croft
 

torex

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torex said:
I don't know what part of the city you are in but call your area parks department first as others have said.

I know in certain parts of the city the asian longhorn beatle has killed many trees....there are signs everywhere in the north etobicoke area stating you cannot remove any trees from the area...fears of spreading the instinct.

I'll get the 1 800 number off the sign tomorrow on my way into work and post it...you might want to call them....if the tree was fine last year it could be infested....either way they might be able to point you in the right direction.
heres the number

1 800 442 2342
 

mrpolarbear

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They are usaully tall, have leaves . and are a bitch to cut down
 

MissCroft

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I think it's gonna be one of those days...

So, I woke up this morning to find one of my dogs had had diarrhea on my bathroom floor (I know which one - I could tell by the guilty look on her face, LOL) No more turkey leftovers for them... So I let the dogs out in the backyard so I could clean it up and I noticed a great big branch of the tree had fallen during the night (landed in my backyard). I just had someone look at it a few weeks ago and tell me that it looked okay enough to not worry too much. :( My neighbour's going to be thrilled with all this firewood!
 
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