I've often scratched my head at the concept that there should be no fun or smiles on Sunday. It was almost like we should dress in black and mourn the death of a religious sect leader who supposed passed two thousand years ago. I think the zealots would prefer we all pass Sunday in our basements with the curtains closed.
Anyone remember when everything was closed on Sundays?
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The odd store was open such as corner store, bakery, theaters and pool halls.
Parents gave me 3 bucks for church, a loaf of bread, and a pack of Rothmans for my dad.
I could keep the change, meaning I shorted the church collection and hit the pool hall to play pinball before the bakery and corner store.
It was a simpler time...
Parents gave me 3 bucks for church, a loaf of bread, and a pack of Rothmans for my dad.
I could keep the change, meaning I shorted the church collection and hit the pool hall to play pinball before the bakery and corner store.
It was a simpler time...
My parents did not smoke but my best friend bought cigarettes from the vending machine for his dad.
I don't think anyone said or proposed that. Not a concept anywhere I think than in your head perhaps.
As kids, we had a ton of fun, playing outside, going to friends houses. etc. Not sure where you get your lack of fun or smiles idea.
Do people only smile while working? Or shopping?
I think the Christian community has largely abandoned the idea of Sunday as a day of rest.
But what about the Jewish and Islamic communities?
And I am asking this in the spirit of not knowing, of wanting to get information.
So as I understand it, the Jewish (and here, and also in the case of the Muslims, I am talking about the (at least somewhat!) OBSERVANT Jews and Muslims) - ( are DOUBLE brackets even a real grammatical thing?) - observe Saturday , do varying degrees of strictness, and I presume for Muslims, it is the same for Friday?
Some are totally strict, others not so much, but still, I presume there is some nodding to tradition.
That reminds me, I heard a Jewish joke quite awhile ago, something about varying degrees of observance, the higher rungs calling the lower either 'Heathen' or 'Fanatic'.
So, are THEY miserable, no smiling, its an awful thing to endure, or are there also positive aspects to it?
Also, lets address directly this notion of society forcing people to conform to their values, therefore there is no freedom.
To me, the operative word, is 'intrinsic".
Are there intrinsic, instinctual, hard-wired ideas that we ALL should be followed, or not?
Are there people who do not have that instinctual belief, and do they as well as everyone else have TOTAL FREEDOM?
Lets go to the lowest of the low, perhaps, - full blown nudity in public, sex (in any and every form) in public, etc.
I mean, there are lower lows, like defecating in public, but I suppose that that could be opposed on health grounds.
So if you oppose the idea of religious belief affecting public norms/rules, and since in essence all beliefs/traditions are anti-freedom to some extent, would those who identify as such be able to put together a lucid rationale why they would not oppose sex in public - no, I do NOT mean is certain places cordoned off, I mean ANYWHERE, anytime?
Now , there will be some respondents who think anything goes at any time, full stop.
But others will say, well , I think that there should be SOME...
I would like to hear from both groups.
To me, the operative word, is 'intrinsic".
Are there intrinsic, instinctual, hard-wired ideas that we ALL should be followed, or not?
Are there people who do not have that instinctual belief, and do they as well as everyone else have TOTAL FREEDOM?
Lets go to the lowest of the low, perhaps, - full blown nudity in public, sex (in any and every form) in public, etc.
I mean, there are lower lows, like defecating in public, but I suppose that that could be opposed on health grounds.
So if you oppose the idea of religious belief affecting public norms/rules, and since in essence all beliefs/traditions are anti-freedom to some extent, would those who identify as such be able to put together a lucid rationale why they would not oppose sex in public - no, I do NOT mean is certain places cordoned off, I mean ANYWHERE, anytime?
Now , there will be some respondents who think anything goes at any time, full stop.
But others will say, well , I think that there should be SOME...
I would like to hear from both groups.
I grew up in a wasp neighbourhood in the good old days and of course as kids we did whatever but, Sundays sucked. My mom was religious and dragged us to church. I think under pressure from her parents as when they passed, we finally skipped it. It seemed like if we were happy and made too much noise on Sunday were told to tone it down. That is were my impression of being somber on Sundays was grounded. It was reinforced when everything that one did for entertainment and fun was closed Sundays. I wouldn't call Sundays a celebration of life based on my observations.
I'm not a religious person but I don't mind celebrating Christian holidays ... jewish holidays, amazon tribal holidays ... I'm open minded just pay me.
As for kids summer holidays - why not put them to work for two months. Their little fingers are great for clearing objects from heavy machinery.
This is crazy because I never knew malls were closed on sundays before
growing up my parents would take me to the mall on Sunday’s
I worked on a dairy farm as a summer job when I was 16 and 17 for July, during the hay season. The farmer probably had a 6th or 8th grade education. He would awake at 4:30 every morning, and read his Bible, (Old Testament), for an hour before starting his chores.
Other than milking his cows in the morning and evening, he didn't work on Sundays. If there was cut hay in the field, and the weather forecast was rain for Monday, that was just unfortunate bad luck.
One other thing he did was unusual, but straight from the Bible: he would pay me every day, in cash, even though I was only able to leave the farm from late afternoon Saturday until Sunday night. I think the Book of Leviticus instructs employers to pay their workers daily, because three thousand years ago, the wage slaves of the time often needed their daily earnings to buy food to eat.
Other than milking his cows in the morning and evening, he didn't work on Sundays. If there was cut hay in the field, and the weather forecast was rain for Monday, that was just unfortunate bad luck.
One other thing he did was unusual, but straight from the Bible: he would pay me every day, in cash, even though I was only able to leave the farm from late afternoon Saturday until Sunday night. I think the Book of Leviticus instructs employers to pay their workers daily, because three thousand years ago, the wage slaves of the time often needed their daily earnings to buy food to eat.
It started off as limited hours and employees were paid a premium to work Sundays. Also working Sundays was optional not mandatory. Then Walmart came into the fold.This is crazy because I never knew malls were closed on sundays before
Back in the day, no one picked up after their dog when it did their business. Walking down any sidewalk was like playing hopscotch to avoid the obstacles. There seemed to be almost a magnetic attraction between brand new Adidas running shoes and fresh dog poop.This is crazy because I never knew malls were closed on sundays before
The worst part was walking in a park on a warm day in early spring, when a lot of snow would melt, exposing multiple layers of sediment. When it got cold after the sun went down, the bottom layer of snow would turn to ice, with a few inches of icy cold water on top, and plenty of 'ice bergs' floating around. Slipping was not an option.
Yeah at the beginning, some store would open and others were closed. Eventually the leases were amended to make it mandatory to open on Sundays as well.This is crazy because I never knew malls were closed on sundays before
There was also a guy that ran a record store in North York , I think it was called Tunes.
He racked up tens of thousands in fines for opening on Sundays.
Not far from him in Bayview village was a magazine/bookstore “ Litchmens”? that for some reason was allowed to be open and only sell magazines.
I was a kid when everything started to open on Sundays. Everyone young and old were very happy about it.
