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The point of the first shutdown was to flatten the curve and allow hospitals time to prepare. It has been several months and they still cannot cope with the small number of hospitalizations? Wtf!

Closing businesses that spent a lot of money trying to follow guidelines is going to be a disaster. The number of cases will not drop as much because people are tired of this shit. At what point will it be considered safe to reopen? Businesses cannot operate this way.
 

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the buses are empty since march
You need to get out more/farther. Rush hour St.Clair, Keele, and Jane busses are full to capacity- standing room, too. I have witnessed this on several occasions.
 
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The point of the first shutdown was to flatten the curve and allow hospitals time to prepare. It has been several months and they still cannot cope with the small number of hospitalizations? Wtf!

Closing businesses that spent a lot of money trying to follow guidelines is going to be a disaster. The number of cases will not drop as much because people are tired of this shit. At what point will it be considered safe to reopen? Businesses cannot operate this way.
Apparently, our top in the world healthcare system cannot cope with a few hundred new admissions.
 

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The point of the first shutdown was to flatten the curve and allow hospitals time to prepare. It has been several months and they still cannot cope with the small number of hospitalizations? Wtf!

Closing businesses that spent a lot of money trying to follow guidelines is going to be a disaster. The number of cases will not drop as much because people are tired of this shit. At what point will it be considered safe to reopen? Businesses cannot operate this way.

the are over 500 hospitals 18000 neds and 2000 ICU the hospitals were empty during the 1st wave


 

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the are over 500 hospitals 18000 neds and 2000 ICU the hospitals were empty during the 1st wave


Pat yourself on the back and pat your Amigo brothers on the back. You are all partly to blame for these imposed shutdowns!
 
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I don't understand why they didn't impose stage 2 last night at midnight. I guess they were still making the decision.

But people are going to be going out tonight to get their last night out indoors, especially on a Friday night. NOT ME. But trust me, it's happening.... I know of people who are making plans for tonight. This can't be good. :(
As much as some people like to ignorantly complain about the provincial government not doing enough and then simultaneously complaining they are overstepping by what they are doing, making decisions like these are not easy to do because it affects a significant part of the economy and that's why they were debating about doing it yesterday and finally deciding on it today.
Ford has taken his time with the rollback to phase 2 in certain areas, I wish he didn't do a regional approach because that might and in my opinion will cause those other areas within the GTA (York, Durham, and Simcoe) to also see an increase in cases. But one day won't make a significant difference on it.

I had to attend an event in downtown Toronto a couple of weeks ago and I was in and out in no more than 15 minutes as there were COVIDIOTS walking into a public space without masks or taking it off walking around, and these COVIDIOTS were going to multiple different restaurant/bars that same evening. And this space is one of many spaces run and owned by this known entertainment genius in the city.

Unfortunately the reality is there is a small but significant amount of the population that are COVIDIOTS disobeying the guidelines set and they are the cause of it, people have no one to blame but those who are taking these set guidelines lightly.
 
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I'm taking another break from seeing providers until things settle down again.

It's disappointing as I had to cancel a long-delayed duo as well as getting together with a wonderful lady I see regularly but I fully need the need to be cautious.

Hopefully things will get back under control soon but I have resigned myself to at least another couple months of self-imposed celibacy.
 

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Pat yourself on the back and pat your Amigo brothers on the back. You are all partly to blame for these imposed shutdowns!

more insults from somebody who supports putting people out of business and jobs over fears of a chest cold
 

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Perhaps a harsh reality we are all seeing is how much population density in each region can dramatically multiply the spread of COVID.

I love Toronto, the GTA. Spent most of the last 20 years working within the GTA and living there full/part time most of the last 10 years.

To give perspective from outside the densely populated areas, here are the stats of the region I currently call home in.

170,000 population spread out over 8,500 square kms. Mostly small towns/cities, but still plenty of schools, restaurants with indoor dining, gyms, LTHCs, factories with employees working closely together, etc.

Here's the COVID Cases for the entire year for this region to current:

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That's it. 150 total cases. Zero deaths. Worth noting, even with the Second Wave upon all of us, 3 days since the last new reported case.

I feel for everyone living in the densely populated parts of Ontario, Canada and beyond.

I share these details only to give some perspective of why certain regions are being restricted/locked down once more and other regions will not be or at least delayed to have the same restrictions in place.
Although population density has an affect on the virus being replicated more quickly, what's important to note is what we are all seeing is not just population density that is causing a rise in cases in Toronto or other areas. A lot of the nightlife in Toronto entertainment areas are dependent on people who do not live in the area the suburbanites/905'ers
Comparing the GTA to another area where it not only has a small population but also very little entertainment in comparison to the GTA and more than likely a lot less younger people is not a legitimate comparison.

Unfortunately the reality is when there is a small but significant amount of the population that are COVIDIOTS disobeying the guidelines set it has a significant affect on the number of cases.
All of this information has been proven in other countries from the scientific data we have seen.
They are the cause of these increasing number of cases. People have no one to blame but themselves and those who are taking these set guidelines lightly.
 

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Although population density has an affect on the virus being replicated more quickly, what's important to note is what we are all seeing is not just population density that is causing a rise in cases in Toronto or other areas. A lot of the nightlife in Toronto entertainment areas are dependent on people who do not live in the area the suburbanites/905'ers
Comparing the GTA to another area where it not only has a small population but also very little entertainment in comparison to the GTA and more than likely a lot less younger people is not a legitimate comparison.
I agree with you - my statement was simply...well, more simple and high level. You are correct, it is well known that in denser populated areas you will have activities and business operations, such as nightlife entertainment as a prime example, as part of the much higher density area and not found in lower density areas.

This initial set of new restrictions is for 28 days and specific regions only. It is reasonable to consider the restrictions may be extended for these specific regions, perhaps changed (more or less), only time will tell. If the now restricted regions have say a few months or more of restrictions and yet other regions do not, it will raise the question of 'why?' - my post was to give a small glimpse into the difference between the regions, which DS99 added more details that are typically found only in more densely populated areas.

Good luck to us all, and hope everyone is making the most out of what we can still do this Thanksgiving weekend.
 

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I don't understand why they didn't impose stage 2 last night at midnight. I guess they were still making the decision.

But people are going to be going out tonight to get their last night out indoors, especially on a Friday night. NOT ME. But trust me, it's happening.... I know of people who are making plans for tonight. This can't be good. :(
As soon as I heard the announcement, I dropped what I was doing(it was 3 PM) and headed to the closest steak house for a couple of beers and a fine cut of the medium rare. The waitresses were distressed, but very sexy in their tight outfits and the masks- ok, maybe I had more than a couple of beers.
 
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the are over 500 hospitals 18000 neds and 2000 ICU the hospitals were empty during the 1st wave


Hospital beds must be staffed by nurses and doctors. There is not enough staffing to use all the beds...
 

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The covidiots are the ones buying into the fearmongering
 
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The covidiots are the ones buying into the fearmongering
You should really look the meaning of COVIDIOT, hold on, let me check for you to make sure wazup isn't the example


It makes sense though that you twist everything and look at things in an opposite light. It's normal for covid deniers.
 
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more insults from somebody who supports putting people out of business and jobs over fears of a chest cold
It's not an insult it's fact! Your stupidity of calling it a common chest cold proves my point.

As for business and jobs being lost it's folks like you that have caused it. I wear my mask in all indoor public places and I keep my distances from folks. IT'S ALL ON YOU!!!!
 
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I agree with you - my statement was simply...well, more simple and high level.
You are correct, it is well known that in denser populated areas you will have activities and business operations, such as nightlife entertainment as a prime example, as part of the much higher density area and not found in lower density areas.

This initial set of new restrictions is for 28 days and specific regions only. It is reasonable to consider the restrictions may be extended for these specific regions, perhaps changed (more or less), only time will tell. If the now restricted regions have say a few months or more of restrictions and yet other regions do not, it will raise the question of 'why?' - my post was to give a small glimpse into the difference between the regions, which DS99 added more details that are typically found only in more densely populated areas.

Good luck to us all, and hope everyone is making the most out of what we can still do this Thanksgiving weekend.
Point is it is well known that denser populated areas will have more cases but the increase in the number of cases currently seen in Toronto, Peel or Ottawa is not just seen in those areas and not just limited to denser population areas.
The increase in number of cases are even seen in the area you used as an example but cropped the rest of the chart, they are seeing the same number of cases now in October as they were seeing in late April and early May, which is an increase from what it was in July, not by much but still an increase.
As well it's also increasing in other areas just not to the degree it's happening in Toronto, Peel or Ottawa, these other areas are just behind in the timeline of the cases increasing just like they did back in the spring.
It's very important to note the second wave is in affect in some regions and some areas are seeing it before others just like it happened the first time around in spring, but it's inevitable those other rural areas will see it as well shortly. All of this is proved in the scientific data we have available.
 

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The part I didn't include was because it was too hard to read after copy/paste. I went back to it and discovered the Total Cases quadrant could be clicked on and zoomed larger.

Here is the Daily cases from beginning to current for the region I'm in.

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One day this region popped a 14, the rest are 4 or less and as you can see, weeks without any at all. Yes this region is having a second wave, as seen above. This post is only to show a scale of a different region other than the much discussed GTA regions for obvious reason.
 
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