Bargaining can be fun when you're trying to shave off a few thousands from a million $, but for a few hundreds $...Fuhgettaboutit !
Bargaining...
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As many other girls have stated in this thread Bargaining rates is a big no-no. Usually when a girl books a client and he negotiates she expects that client to be rude , aggressive, have bad hygiene, or simply just disrespectful (usually the case) which causes the session to go awry. As the saying goes " you get what you pay for" so if you offer a girl 60hh and get bad service, don't be surprised. If you want a happy sp then my best advice is to pay her prices. In some cases girls will allow it if they are really and I mean really desperate for the cash. However I know sps who have daily specials for their regulars and that way everybody is happy. It seems in this case you got lucky because your regular recommended you to someone she knew and probably told her friend " hey listen. I normally charge him XXX amount for a hh and it would be great if you could do it too. Hes a really nice reliable guy."
wouldn't that be considered manipulating since you know what her set rates are yet you respond and say" that is more than I am willing to spend " that way if she is desperate enough she will lower her rates and then you get the lower rate you wanted and she doesn't get her actual rate?
I know some clients who use this tactic and they still don't get the service they want because technically they still bargained?
I know some clients who use this tactic and they still don't get the service they want because technically they still bargained?
I would assume most sp's would consider negotiating rates for multiple hour sessions or perhaps a vacation type trip with a client. Anything that's not posted on her rate menu I would think could be discussed. I don't like the term "bargaining", I think discussing rates for non advertised sessions is more appropriate.
I agree somewhat ; however you say you don't ask for a lower rate but yet after you get the rates you say " is more than I was looking to spend" which without actually asking the question is technically asking for a lower rate... Unless I am mistaken ? You are right the sp is not obliged to give a lower rate however if and it is a really big if , if she is desperate enough for the cash she will offer a lower rate. Just from the sound of it sounds a bit like manipulation, but hey, to each his own I guess..
xoxox happy hobbying.
xoxox happy hobbying.
I have received offers of lower prices, from the SP herself. These though are for your longer dates, which can include dinner dates. But the offer comes from her, without you implying or asking for any lowering of her posted fee, for the same event. For any SP, you look at her rates, and decide if they are acceptable, or not, to you personally. Some SP's social time, and bed time, can be the same. Doubt if many get that many offers, for longer appointments. But that is their choice, to make. Other decide that they enjoy the social time, and the rates reflect that. But for an hour or less, why would she lower her rate, for a more brief encounter. If you do mot like the posted rate, move on to another. There is not a shortage, so you should find one who's rate is in line, with your expectations.
Tend to agree. I've had many SP's in the past who, after several visits, might suggest/offer an overnight or multi-hour rate lower than what is advertised or would be offered to any first-time client.
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OnTheWayOut
The world must be coming to an end, I agree with fuji! If an SP offers, good. If a clients asks, bad.
I have been in this situation as well. I read a review, contact the provider and find out their rate is more than I wanted to spend. Most times, that's where it ends and I don't let the provider know and I go radio silent. One time though, I went silent and the SP texts me back wondering if I still wanted to see her. I replied her rate was more than I was able to afford and she offers a discount. I did not see the SP bc I didn't want her to think I was bargaining with her nor did I want to have a crappy session bc she had to offer a lower rate.
Should I have taken her up on the lower rate? What do SPs think about this? Would you rather offer a discount on a slow night or wait it out for a client who would pay your stated rate?
I also agree the longer sessions/overnighter involve a bit of a back and forth to arrive at the rate since they are often not posted. I could be completely wrong, but I don't think SPs expect anyone to pay their regular hourly rate x the number of hours for an overnight service. I've found a few who dont charge more than what they normally charge for 5 hours max. We discuss the things we would be doing ahead of time, like going out to dinner, an event, then back to the room for the overnight session. For me, it's fs or bj before going out to dinner, then fs when we get back to the room and once more in the morning before she leaves. However, if all the person wanted to do was to have sex for 10 straight hours, then it would certainly be appropriate to charge full price for the entire time.
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OnTheWayOut
Just remembered a related situation that happened to me regarding rates. In Ottawa a few years back a since departed Asian agency offered me an unsolicited discount, since he knew I would post a review and most of the time his girls were great and got good reviews. I declined but he insisted saying it was new returning client rate, and it was only $20 off.
So I see the girl and hand her the discounted amount and she looks funny at me. I quickly grab another 20 and apologize as if it just was stuck in my pocket. Luckily I had thought it out a bit and was prepared. I was planning on adding the 20 to the tip (if she earned one) anyway. Afterwards I called phone dude and chewed him out and told him never to try that stunt again. He said girl did not understand and it would be ok next time. I told him he almost ruined a great time and will ignore any discounts offered in the future. To his credit he never did it again. But similar offer was tried by others and I ignored and always paid the regular rate. I didn't trust that the girl would get her normal cut.
If an agency offers you a discount, decline. If the girl offers after you are with her then maybe think about it. I've actually had SPs hand money back to me at the end for whatever reason but insist they earned it .... unless they didn't earn it. Rarely worth arguing over a couple bucks, won't get you better service for sure. Unless the couple extra bucks are in the form of a tip. Tips MAY get you better service if you repeat but not guaranteed.
So I see the girl and hand her the discounted amount and she looks funny at me. I quickly grab another 20 and apologize as if it just was stuck in my pocket. Luckily I had thought it out a bit and was prepared. I was planning on adding the 20 to the tip (if she earned one) anyway. Afterwards I called phone dude and chewed him out and told him never to try that stunt again. He said girl did not understand and it would be ok next time. I told him he almost ruined a great time and will ignore any discounts offered in the future. To his credit he never did it again. But similar offer was tried by others and I ignored and always paid the regular rate. I didn't trust that the girl would get her normal cut.
If an agency offers you a discount, decline. If the girl offers after you are with her then maybe think about it. I've actually had SPs hand money back to me at the end for whatever reason but insist they earned it .... unless they didn't earn it. Rarely worth arguing over a couple bucks, won't get you better service for sure. Unless the couple extra bucks are in the form of a tip. Tips MAY get you better service if you repeat but not guaranteed.
That's because you are most likely awesome and don't bargain rates. I've let regulars stay longer at times. I have no problem letting someone stay a bit extra or whatever if they have paid my rates and they've visited for at least a couple hours. Especially if they are a regular.
Amen baby! You've got it right. You win a free half hour if you stay an hour hehe
I have to admit, I really do dislike the "What's the special rate today baby?" texts.
We have a promo section on our site, if we are offering promos, we will advertise them. But these guy message the same thing to hundreds of women. We offer specials and promos because we know this is an expensive hobby and we try to give back, but bargin hunters are just a turn off.
We have a promo section on our site, if we are offering promos, we will advertise them. But these guy message the same thing to hundreds of women. We offer specials and promos because we know this is an expensive hobby and we try to give back, but bargin hunters are just a turn off.
From reading this thread, I can see how sensitive the subject of rates and bargain ing is, on both sides.
But I still have mixed feeling when it comes to rates. Some Lady's have a firm fixed rate for everybody, anytime, same rate no matter what the activity, so it's very clear. Others will give discounts for social time, or the rate drops for longer dates. Then there's the Lady's who offer there 'old rate for existing clients'. And then there's Lady's who have different rates for different places. I have a hard time getting my head around that one and also the specials or holiday rates. I had one regular who was giving me a lower than advertised rate, for being a long term regular. But then had a holiday special offering everyone a rate lower than I was paying. When the holidays were over, she told me my rate went up to more than before. So random first or one time visitors got a better rate than me, a long time supporter.
Another lady put up her rates, but kept me at the old rate, so now reading about how ladies feel about a Bargan hunters, I don't feel right about discounts. I have a hard time with yo-yo rates. Makes me feel confused. When I pay more for her time than others do, I feel like I'm being taken.
Just yesterday I read a review of a girl I've seen semi regular. The reviewer said she was quite reasonable and listed her rates, but I've been paying her more. I'm always a gentleman and don't ask for more, but I feel ripped off when I see she charges others less. I don't understand, did I get charged an ugly fee or something?
But I still have mixed feeling when it comes to rates. Some Lady's have a firm fixed rate for everybody, anytime, same rate no matter what the activity, so it's very clear. Others will give discounts for social time, or the rate drops for longer dates. Then there's the Lady's who offer there 'old rate for existing clients'. And then there's Lady's who have different rates for different places. I have a hard time getting my head around that one and also the specials or holiday rates. I had one regular who was giving me a lower than advertised rate, for being a long term regular. But then had a holiday special offering everyone a rate lower than I was paying. When the holidays were over, she told me my rate went up to more than before. So random first or one time visitors got a better rate than me, a long time supporter.
Another lady put up her rates, but kept me at the old rate, so now reading about how ladies feel about a Bargan hunters, I don't feel right about discounts. I have a hard time with yo-yo rates. Makes me feel confused. When I pay more for her time than others do, I feel like I'm being taken.
Just yesterday I read a review of a girl I've seen semi regular. The reviewer said she was quite reasonable and listed her rates, but I've been paying her more. I'm always a gentleman and don't ask for more, but I feel ripped off when I see she charges others less. I don't understand, did I get charged an ugly fee or something?
I completely get where you're coming from. The worse is when I see a lady for the first time and I'm told a rate (not knowing it's a special rate). The next time I call to book and confirm the rate, she tells me it's higher bc the last time I saw her, she was running a special. I get the ladies can charge what they want, but some consistency would be nice.
