bbbj....who takes the risk??

[michaelz30]

I am relatively new to TERB and have been obsessed with the blogs since. I want to ask fellow hobbyists....who wants to have a bbbj and why they would take the risk? Granted a small risk for HIV but the risk is there. Also for HPV, gonnorhea, chlamydia, and HSV. Why take the risk? Also, why would you perform DATY on a woman who has had hundreds of different clients? STD'S are present in vaginal fluids. I just dont get it. I saw a blog of a Terbite who had a BBBJ and did DATY and was terrified for weeks until he had a test.

Wanted BBBj But Too Scared

 

[train]

I am relatively new to TERB and have been obsessed with the blogs since. I want to ask fellow hobbyists....who wants to have a bbbj and why they would take the risk? Granted a small risk for HIV but the risk is there. Also for HPV, gonnorhea, chlamydia, and HSV. Why take the risk? Also, why would you perform DATY on a woman who has had hundreds of different clients? STD'S are present in vaginal fluids. I just dont get it. I saw a blog of a Terbite who had a BBBJ and did DATY and was terrified for weeks until he had a test.

Wanted BBBj But Too Scared

Read all you want. Follow the health section link.

The risk with BBBJ is very very very small for the male - virtually non-existent for HIV.

Is your objective really to ask or to lecture?

If it's to ask then you should ask a doctor who works in a clinic that specializes in this area or find better sources than this.

If it's because you don't understand the psychology of the decision then forget it. Make up your own mind and don't worry what a bunch of nameless posters on a review board think. After all everyone has a different risk appetite and knowledge level. Of all the people that I have known who have contracted an STD none have done so from a sp.

If it's to lecture - haven't you got something else better to do

 

[Top Northerner]

An individual decision. I am sitting out right now, trying to quit hobby. But if back in I would only do CBJ. Had discussion with a doctor friend who hobbies and he says risk HIV low, but of ghonorrea higher than you'd think. I wouldn't ever be able to live with myself if I passed it on to SO. If I was single that would be another matter,

 

[S.C. Joe]

Done BBBJ for over 20 years, even done a few BBFS but that was before the AIDS news went wild...as far as I know, I am clean as kleenex

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

I wonder the very same thing about Sp's. I researched it and the risk is very high for an SP giving bbbj for contracting HIV. The small abrasions in your mouth from brushing your teeth alone is enough to to get HIV when giving BBJ's. There is also a high risk for Cocain & Ecstasy user as they unconsciously chew the insides of their mouth's. I'm surprised these girls are willing to get and transmit HIV just for 2-$300. It's also disgusting the advantage these clients are taking of theses SP. Basically forcing them to put their lives at risk to stay competitive. I wonder how they would feel, heaven forbid if it was their daughter being put in that very same position.

Many people who contract HIV are angry and vindictive and will deliberately spread the HIV virus so SP's need to know when client are asking for bbj's there is a percentage who are maliciously doing it to infect them and their loved ones as well as spreading HIV to other clients and their wives.

Knowing you TERBITES you will be screaming from the roof tops about my post but it doesnt matter the facts are the facts

You're 100% wrong. The risk of an SP contracting HIV from a bbbj is VERY low. A friend of mine, a doctor with the AIDS Committee of Toronto explained that there is no 100% guarantee that the virus won't be transmitted, but that the risk is considered very low. I could go on, but I won't, especially because you seem to have joined the board to troll.

 

[King Midas]

Define 'low'

You're 100% wrong. The risk of an SP contracting HIV from a bbbj is VERY low. A friend of mine, a doctor with the AIDS Committee of Toronto explained that there is no 100% guarantee that the virus won't be transmitted, but that the risk is considered very low. I could go on, but I won't, especially because you seem to have joined the board to troll.

Define 'low'? 1 in 100? 1 in 1,000? 1 in 100,000. And in what demographic? AIDS used to be a gay man's disease but we have seen the number of HIV positive people in the female demographic (especially among non-Whites) growing.

What's 'low' for you might be a huge risk for another. I'd prefer to know what the statistic is and what the statistic is based on before I take the risk.

 

[2k5]

a couple of times i went with the intent of getting a cbj and then once you there in the moment you just say to yourself fuck it and get the bbbj
i gotta stop doing that

 

[S.C. Joe]

You can catch TB just being out in public by breathing in the air if somebody around you has TB....so are you going to be like Michael Jackson and wear a mask while in public, lol.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

I think it's very wrong to be subjecting SP to BBBJ. Somehow I find it abusive. Think of how many guys some of these ladies see on a daily basis and if they want to stay competitive......I mean if you guys perform daty it's your choice and you get to pick and choose which Y you have dinner in. What if it was the other way around and you had to daty every SP you ever met good, bad, ugly or stinky? Not to mention the health issue

Whoa!!! Everyone has a choice, SPs included. They can offer BBBJ or not ... and many do just that. I have never "subjected" an SP to a bbbj, it was always freely offered, or not. I have sometimes asked and they said no, so it was cbj. Always a choice for all involved.

I know it was most likely a poor way to phrase what you were trying to say, but if not I wanted to point out the error of that statement, at least IMO.

 

[a 1 player]

**sigh**

 

[shack]

I am relatively new to TERB and have been obsessed with the blogs since. I want to ask fellow hobbyists....who wants to have a bbbj and why they would take the risk? Granted a small risk for HIV but the risk is there. Also for HPV, gonnorhea, chlamydia, and HSV. Why take the risk? Also, why would you perform DATY on a woman who has had hundreds of different clients? STD'S are present in vaginal fluids. I just dont get it. I saw a blog of a Terbite who had a BBBJ and did DATY and was terrified for weeks until he had a test.

Wanted BBBj But Too Scared

And some people are afraid to fly. Do what you're comfortable with, however no need to question/preach to others who are aware of the "risks".

 

[squash500]

This is slightly off-topic . A couple of years ago I was dating a "hot" chick who was allergic to latex condoms. She could only use the lambskin condoms which don't protect you from hiv. She actually preferred to have sex "bareback" as she knew that I had had a vasectomy. I actually showed her the hospital papers.

I asked my family doc if it would be a risk to me if I had unprotected sex with her. My family doctor said that she would be the "one" who was more at risk than myself. I wound up dating her for 6 months. I had an hiv test after we stopped dating and it came back negative.

I found it interesting that my family doc said that the female is more at risk than the male in these situations. I guess the same would apply for bbbj as well?

 

[james t kirk]

Your odds of getting cancer are 50 50.

Odds of contracting anything from a BBBj are infinitesimally small.

You want to worry about something? Worry about getting cancer.

 

[CountryComfort]

very well said James

There are some very strange posts in this thread. Some of the posts highly misrepresent the facts. Others seem intended to incite ignorance and fear. What's wrong with the truth? Read the literature out there. With BBBJ there are risks for STD's and HIV. The HIV risk is negligible (very small). Let's all be knowledgeable and make decisions based on the truth.

KUMBAYA

Your odds of getting cancer are 50 50.

Odds of contracting anything from a BBBj are infinitesimally small.

You want to worry about something? Worry about getting cancer.

 

[King Midas]

Your odds of getting cancer are 50 50.

Odds of contracting anything from a BBBj are infinitesimally small.

You want to worry about something? Worry about getting cancer.

50/50? Got a link or a source to back that up? And what type of cancer are you speaking of?

I'd worry about getting cancer if I was chain-smoking or doing something else that's proven to increase my risk for certain types of cancer. Unprotected sex with an escort exposes you to a similar risk in regards to STDs in my opinion. And like chain-smoking, it's a risk you can avoid or minimize.

Nobody likes to talk about it and we're all content to say whatever is necessary to rationalise what we do and want.

 

[Elmer Stud]

As long as you are exchanging fluids, there is a risk of catching something. You don't want to be totally naive and think that you are completely imperibable.

 

[y2kmark]

Hey!!

Nobody in my WHOLE LIFE has ever accused me of thinking I was imperibable!!!

 

[RTRD]

Ummm...

I think it's very wrong to be subjecting SP to BBBJ. Somehow I find it abusive. Think of how many guys some of these ladies see on a daily basis and if they want to stay competitive......I mean if you guys perform daty it's your choice and you get to pick and choose which Y you have dinner in. What if it was the other way around and you had to daty every SP you ever met good, bad, ugly or stinky? Not to mention the health issue

...nobody is subjecting anyone to anything as I understand it.

If an SP doesn't like the risk associated with BBBJ, she should not offer it.

If she doesn't like the fact that not offering it might hurt business, she should find a business where she doesn't have to provide blow jobs to get paid.

If she doesn't have to skills set or education to do that, how is that the fault of the guy she met 10 minutes ago who is dropping his pants?

This is akin to a firefighter complaining that his job entails running into burning buildings...

 

[james t kirk]

50/50? Got a link or a source to back that up? And what type of cancer are you speaking of?

I'd worry about getting cancer if I was chain-smoking or doing something else that's proven to increase my risk for certain types of cancer. Unprotected sex with an escort exposes you to a similar risk in regards to STDs in my opinion. And like chain-smoking, it's a risk you can avoid or minimize.

Nobody likes to talk about it and we're all content to say whatever is necessary to rationalise what we do and want.

Having buried 2 parents to cancer, and talking to the professionals in the field, I can assure you, it's 50 50.

Don't think for a minute that because you don't smoke that you are immune. You are not.

One out of 2 people will develop cancer in their lives. Of those, half or more will die from it.

But since you don't believe me.....

Cancer is the second leading cause of death in the US, exceeded only by heart disease. In the US, one in two men come down with cancer in their lifetime, one in three for women, and 1of 4 deaths is from cancer.

Oh, and here's the link:

http://www.cancure.org/statistics.htm

You can do your own google search.

The US gov't spends more than double on AIDS research as it does cancer research. Sorry, that's fucked up. But probably something for another thread. (Good for the Gay Lobby - they've really pushed thier agenda quite successfully.)

No-one is saying not to protect yourself when it comes to STD's. However, I don't lay awake at night worrying about the last BBBJ that I received. I do however, contemplate my own mortality to the disease that claimed both my parents and believe you me, until you've been there, you have NO IDEA what that word means.

Keeping it in perspective.

 

[S.C. Joe]

Not looking anything up, I thought the risks of getting cancer was 33%. One things for sure, the older you get, the more likely you will get cancer.

Still, I'm hoping to live to a ripe old age


What I thought was funny once, I met a young SP who wanted to do CBJ only, told me shes never going to do BBBJ with any of her cleints...cool, better to be safe then sorry.

But I could smell the cigarette smoke off her...I ask, you smoke..she goes, "yeah".