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[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Fine, we'll do www.

Fine, we'll do www.perplexity.ai.
Try it for yourself

How many total right-wing terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:



How many total islamic terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:

.ai.
Try it for yourself

How many total right-wing terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:



How many total islamic terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:

I asked perplexity.ai and this is what I got.
For Islamic extremism I got the same result as you.
When asking about right wing extremism, you have to specify, white nationalist, neo-nazi, separatists etc.,
They are categorized separately by law enforcement, and that is the data these AI access.
But they are all what we refer to as right wing extremism.
So clearly, right wing extremism exceeds Islamic extremism in terms of frequency.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Fine, we'll do www.perplexity.ai.
Try it for yourself

How many total right-wing terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:



How many total islamic terror attacks have there been in europe over the last 25 years?
Answer:

Here is the table from perplexity:

Conclusion:
This proves what I have been saying all along.

 

[southpaw]

So clearly, right wing extremism exceeds Islamic extremism in terms of frequency.

What about in terms of dead bodies?

 

[Frankfooter]

What about in terms of dead bodies?

London, Quebec City.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

What about in terms of dead bodies?

Muslims are responsible for 5 times as many deaths than right-wing terror attacks

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I asked perplexity.ai and this is what I got.
For Islamic extremism I got the same result as you.
When asking about right wing extremism, you have to specify, white nationalist, neo-nazi, separatists etc.,
They are categorized separately by law enforcement, and that is the data these AI access.
But they are all what we refer to as right wing extremism.
So clearly, right wing extremism exceeds Islamic extremism in terms of frequency.
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What are they counting as neo-Nazi attacks though. Some Nazi lighting a car on fire??
If you look at the size of muslim terror attacks vs. nazi or white nationalist terrorism, the muslim terror attacks far outweigh the right-wing ones. They are much bigger in scale, and much more deadly.

I will say that in the last 5 years Islamic terrorism seems to have died out a bit in Europe.
The last one was in 2020 in Austria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Vienna_attack

So maybe these dum dums are finally starting to realize they can never kill all of us

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Here is the table from perplexity:

These numbers you are posting are clearly wrong, because I have already proven that Islamic terrorism killed 532 people in Europe alone over the last 25 years. And thats not even counting Russia, which is located partially in Europe as well .

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe

 

[K Douglas]

Correction: If you included 9/11, perhaps the death toll exceeds right wing extremism.
But post 9/11, it is right wing extremism that has claimed most lives and poses the biggest danger.

Cite your statistics please. Because what I'm looking at its not even close - way more westerners have perished post 9/11 due to Islamic extremist terrorist attacks than from right wing extremist attacks. There may be more 'right wing' attacks but the vast majority are from individuals, not groups. Unlike Islamo fascists

 

[southpaw]

London, Quebec City.

I'm disappointed Frank. I expect BS from the likes of Shaq, not you.

Those attacks killed a handful of people. Even if you exclude 9/11, Islamist attacks in the west have had far more victims. Paris, Nice, Fort Hood, Brussels, London, Germany, Florida, it goes on.

If you say you're only looking at Canada, that's disingenuous. Canada is part of a larger Western Civilization.

 

[southpaw]

Muslims are responsible for 5 times as many deaths than right-wing terror attacks

And they comprise 5 times less than the non-Muslim population of the West. Seems a little over-represented to me.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And they comprise 5 times less than the non-Muslim population of the West. Seems a little over-represented to me

Muslims only comprise about 6% of Western European population.
And only 1% of North American population.

So per capita the stats become even worse

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Cite your statistics please. Because what I'm looking at its not even close - way more westerners have perished post 9/11 due to Islamic extremist terrorist attacks than from right wing extremist attacks. There may be more 'right wing' attacks but the vast majority are from individuals, not groups. Unlike Islamo fascists

Here is a table. It excludes 9/11 in North America.
In EU Islamic extremism has caused more deaths.
In North America it is right wing extremism.
We live in North America and therefore our primary threat is right wing extremism, which is what law enforcement say as well.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

What are they counting as neo-Nazi attacks though. Some Nazi lighting a car on fire??
If you look at the size of muslim terror attacks vs. nazi or white nationalist terrorism, the muslim terror attacks far outweigh the right-wing ones. They are much bigger in scale, and much more deadly.

What are they counting as Islamic attacks though?
Some Islamic guy lighting a car on fire?
You could ask the same question there.
Yes Islamic terror attacks are bigger in scale when they do happen.
However in North America if you exclude 9/11 which is a huge outlier, it is right wing extremism that is most dangerous both in terms of frequency and death counts.
I asked you already.
What are you most afraid of and what is more likely to happen here in North America?
- A plane flying into a building and killing 1000s?
OR
- Some right wing nut shooting up people with an AR-15 or ramming a truck into a bunch of people on the street?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

These numbers you are posting are clearly wrong....

I am not posting any numbers.
I am using the same AI tool you recommended and my image contains both numbers and sources.
The sources include Wikipedia that you have used.
Yes Islamic terrorism has killed more people in Europe.
But right wing terrorism has killed more people in North America.
We live in North America.
Our problem therefore is right wing extremism and related violence.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Here is a table. It excludes 9/11 in North America.
In EU Islamic extremism has caused more deaths.
In North America it is right wing extremism.
We live in North America and therefore our primary threat is right wing extremism, which is what law enforcement say as well.
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They excluded 9/11. How convenient

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Yes Islamic terror attacks are bigger in scale when they do happen.

Good, I'm glad you finally agree with me

I asked you already.
What are you most afraid of and what is more likely to happen here in North America?
- A plane flying into a building and killing 1000s?
OR
- Some right wing nut shooting up people with an AR-15 or ramming a truck into a bunch of people on the street?

Lets start off with I'm not really afraid of either.
I certainly dont go walking around terrified to death of extremist muslims or white supremacists.

Thats not really the topic of conversation though.
The topic is which side causes more terror, and its hands down radical muslims

What are they counting as Islamic attacks though?

They are counting this. Major terror attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe

The only serious right-wing terror attack was that Breivik guy in Norway

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The topic is which side causes more terror, and its hands down radical muslims

That is right wing extremism in North America - both in frequency and death count.
Islamic terrorism in EU.
We live in North America and hence our concern is right wing terrorism.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

They excluded 9/11. How convenient

I asked to exclude it because the discussion was about post 9/11 terrorism.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That is right wing extremism in North America - both in frequency and death count.
Islamic terrorism in EU.
We live in North America and hence our concern is right wing terrorism

And you're wrong.

A right-winger might go into a mosque and blow away a dozen people, or run over a few people like that Veltman guy in London.
But Islamic terrorism is much more deadly and dangerous in scope than anything else.

So far in Canada we have been lucky. RCMP foiled 2 serious terror plots that couldve killed hundreds.

Terror plot #1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Ontario_terrorism_plot
Terror plot #2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Via_Rail_Canada_terrorism_plot

The Toronto 18 planned to blow up the TSX with a truck bomb. Hundreds of deaths had they succeeded.
The VIA rail terrorists planned to blow up and derail a bunch of trains.
Again, hundreds of deaths had they not been caught.

These attacks simply are nowhere near the threat that a few lone wolf right-wingers pose. Just admit it already

 

[K Douglas]

Here is a table. It excludes 9/11 in North America.
In EU Islamic extremism has caused more deaths.
In North America it is right wing extremism.
We live in North America and therefore our primary threat is right wing extremism, which is what law enforcement say as well.
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That table is incorrect. Here are the numbers I came up with in North America. Obviously excluding 9/11 which really we shouldn't but whatever.

Right wing extremist deaths caused (2000-2025) - 74
(El Paso Wal-Mart shooting 23; Tree of Life Synagogue shooting 11; Buffalo Tops Market shooting 10; Charleston Church shooting 9. Wisconsin Sikh Temple attack 6)

Islamic extremist deaths caused (2000-2025) excl. 9/11 - 114
(Pulse Nightclub Orlando shooting 49; San Bernadino Christmas party shooting 14; New Orleans truck attack 14; Fort Hood TX shooting 13; NYC truck attack 8)