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SIRLOKI

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I have seen Abby regularly for the last three years or so. On a recent visit I was very disappointed that she not only took out her cellphone during the session but answered a call and had a conversation with the caller that went on for a while. This is not really acceptable to me so in spite of the excellent massages I may go elsewhere. Thip's massages are amazing but it is a real trip for me to get out there.
Thip can be painful , she likes to go hard , could barely walk the next day , not to mention I think she sexualy assulted me , I,m not sure cause it felt good , but violent .
 

Poetof69

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You have been a regular for YEARS with EXCELLENT massages and had this one bad experience but felt compelled to post a negative review with a threat to go elsewhere? I mean these ladies are not perfect but given the many years of service I am curious why you would not just address it with Abby directly?
I mentioned it as it appears to have happened to others. It is hardly a negative review but I don't generally return to any provider who texts during service.
 

girlzrhot

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I mentioned it as it appears to have happened to others. It is hardly a negative review but I don't generally return to any provider who texts during service.
I have seen her quite a few times myself and have never had that experience. Kinda weird that you would not talk to her about this given you claim to be a regular. Anyways, to each their own I guess.
 

WIll230

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I have seen her quite a few times myself and have never had that experience. Kinda weird that you would not talk to her about this given you claim to be a regular. Anyways, to each their own I guess.
Why can't their opinion change - if anything that makes his opinion even more valid since he was a repeat client and is noticing a decline in what he once thought was dependable service. Not to turn this into a thread about Abby but i saw her for the first time a few weeks ago and while i left satisfied for the most part when i look at reviews from just a year ago it definitely sounds like a different experience... She was on her phone a bit at the start (not enough to personally bother me but i can see why it would) and she only gets topless at later part of the massage and keeps her bottoms on ect. Point being - props to them for getting good reviews but it does sound like they are potentially realizing that they can get away with things they perhaps wouldn't have done in the past which got them their rave reviews. Not saying Vivian is like this since i haven't seen her yet but in general its kind of human nature to find complacency and do less for more where possible.
 

Needluv

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I've seen her many times, and I always enjoyed myself; until the final time I saw her. It was rushed, no teasing. Very quick flip and finish. I was a bit stunned... Just figured it was a bad day. I haven't been back though.
 

FLaPenna

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What is the allure with Vivian ? I saw her years ago for a meet and greet and was not sold in terms of looks/chemistry. I decided to pass.
If she is barely GFE and only provides a HE what is all the fuss about ?
 

SIRLOKI

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What is the allure with Vivian ? I saw her years ago for a meet and greet and was not sold in terms of looks/chemistry. I decided to pass.
If she is barely GFE and only provides a HE what is all the fuss about ?
Its eroctic massage , if you want more see sp

The thing that I like is that you can see she enjoys her work .

Some guys want the ma experience without trying to be upsold on fs .

The downside is you cant get fs and if you connect , its hard to get over .

different ''strokes '' for different folks , go with what you like , A lot of spas will do this for you , but you have to find out wich one
 

girlzrhot

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Why can't their opinion change - if anything that makes his opinion even more valid since he was a repeat client and is noticing a decline in what he once thought was dependable service. Not to turn this into a thread about Abby but i saw her for the first time a few weeks ago and while i left satisfied for the most part when i look at reviews from just a year ago it definitely sounds like a different experience... She was on her phone a bit at the start (not enough to personally bother me but i can see why it would) and she only gets topless at later part of the massage and keeps her bottoms on ect. Point being - props to them for getting good reviews but it does sound like they are potentially realizing that they can get away with things they perhaps wouldn't have done in the past which got them their rave reviews. Not saying Vivian is like this since i haven't seen her yet but in general its kind of human nature to find complacency and do less for more where possible.
No bud. He did not report a decline. He reported a one time issue which I found odd that he wouldn't address that with the provider after YEARS of repeat service. I absolutely agree that service can change over time and take no issue with honest reviews. In fact I appreciate them. To be frank I don't believe this dude is a regular of Abby at all. As for your experience that tracks but at her price point it is still full value imo. Vivian is priced slightly higher but is fully nude so full value there too.
 

WIll230

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No bud. He did not report a decline. He reported a one time issue which I found odd that he wouldn't address that with the provider after YEARS of repeat service. I absolutely agree that service can change over time and take no issue with honest reviews. In fact I appreciate them. To be frank I don't believe this dude is a regular of Abby at all. As for your experience that tracks but at her price point it is still full value imo. Vivian is priced slightly higher but is fully nude so full value there too.
Because nothing fixes vibes for sessions quite like "excuse me, can you please not use your phone while I'm here" why should he have to ask?! They know not to do it since they never used to before. You coming on here saying his opinion is wrong is pretty wild and i think its pretty valuable information for people to have here. I personally didn't mind my interaction with the phone since it was right before we started and only breifly partway through.. but if she were to actually pick up the phone with a conversation like someone else said i think my tolerance would be lower to it... other people would rather it not at all. For you to wash that away and white knight for them, and then when i bring up even the full nude aspects went away in her base price "WELL SHE IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE EVEN WITH THAT" okay, good keep going to see her ... others might disagree - but if they were to read all the raving reviews - including a bunch where people say they are off their phones and full nude... thats going to set their expectations to be let down.
 
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girlzrhot

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Because nothing fixes vibes for sessions quite like "excuse me, can you please not use your phone while I'm here" why should he have to ask?! They know not to do it since they never used to before. You coming on here saying his opinion is wrong is pretty wild and i think its pretty valuable information for people to have here. I personally didn't mind my interaction with the phone since it was right before we started and only breifly partway through.. but if she were to actually pick up the phone with a conversation like someone else said i think my tolerance would be lower to it... other people would rather it not at all. For you to wash that away and white knight for them, and then when i bring up even the full nude aspects went away in her base price "WELL SHE IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE EVEN WITH THAT" okay, good keep going to see her ... others might disagree - but if they were to read all the raving reviews - including a bunch where people say they are off their phones and full nude... thats going to set their expectations to be let down.
I didn't believe this dudes story plain and simple. If you did that is great for you. I don't see it a valuable information. Abby does have a good reputation already and I find it pretty rich that you are calling me a white knight for her as you white knight for this guy. Anyway, I am done on this thread. Enjoy!
 

terbie2020

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Because nothing fixes vibes for sessions quite like "excuse me, can you please not use your phone while I'm here" why should he have to ask?! They know not to do it since they never used to before. You coming on here saying his opinion is wrong is pretty wild and i think its pretty valuable information for people to have here. I personally didn't mind my interaction with the phone since it was right before we started and only breifly partway through.. but if she were to actually pick up the phone with a conversation like someone else said i think my tolerance would be lower to it... other people would rather it not at all. For you to wash that away and white knight for them, and then when i bring up even the full nude aspects went away in her base price "WELL SHE IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE EVEN WITH THAT" okay, good keep going to see her ... others might disagree - but if they were to read all the raving reviews - including a bunch where people say they are off their phones and full nude... thats going to set their expectations to be let down.
For you did she say fully nude while massaging
Because nothing fixes vibes for sessions quite like "excuse me, can you please not use your phone while I'm here" why should he have to ask?! They know not to do it since they never used to before. You coming on here saying his opinion is wrong is pretty wild and i think its pretty valuable information for people to have here. I personally didn't mind my interaction with the phone since it was right before we started and only breifly partway through.. but if she were to actually pick up the phone with a conversation like someone else said i think my tolerance would be lower to it... other people would rather it not at all. For you to wash that away and white knight for them, and then when i bring up even the full nude aspects went away in her base price "WELL SHE IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE EVEN WITH THAT" okay, good keep going to see her ... others might disagree - but if they were to read all the raving reviews - including a bunch where people say they are off their phones and full nude... thats going to set their expectations to be let down.
For your session, did Abby say she will be fully nude during the session? I have been with her for a while and she has never taken her clothes off during the massage part which I don't mind at all because you are facing down and I want her to be comfortable while working on my knots. If she promised you that then yeah talk to her. She did answer the phone once during one of my sessions but it was important call from a family member. She explained to me afterward and I am good with that. As far as value goes, for the post massage pleasure, she is top notch and has never failed me. Vivian seems a bit distance perhaps because YMMV stuff but I feel she didn't open up as much as Abby. Enjoy the ladies because once they are gone you wont' have much to choose from for Asian Indy MAs.
 

SIRLOKI

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For you did she say fully nude while massaging


For your session, did Abby say she will be fully nude during the session? I have been with her for a while and she has never taken her clothes off during the massage part which I don't mind at all because you are facing down and I want her to be comfortable while working on my knots. If she promised you that then yeah talk to her. She did answer the phone once during one of my sessions but it was important call from a family member. She explained to me afterward and I am good with that. As far as value goes, for the post massage pleasure, she is top notch and has never failed me. Vivian seems a bit distance perhaps because YMMV stuff but I feel she didn't open up as much as Abby. Enjoy the ladies because once they are gone you wont' have much to choose from for Asian Indy MAs.
Abby has options , but only at the end she gets nude at end add $$ , but Viv is nude from start included in her fee .
Vivian has never touched her phone in 60 plus sessions , Abby uses it all the time 100 plus sessions .
Vivian is sensual sexy massage hj and enjoys herself , Abby is more therapeutic but she will adjust to your needs if asked , and has more options $$ but is picky ymmv greatly.
 

snagglepuss

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Abby has options , but only at the end she gets nude at end add $$ , but Viv is nude from start included in her fee .
Vivian has never touched her phone in 60 plus sessions , Abby uses it all the time 100 plus sessions .
Vivian is sensual sexy massage hj and enjoys herself , Abby is more therapeutic but she will adjust to your needs if asked , and has more options $$ but is picky ymmv greatly.
That is an accurate assessment 👏. I prefer Vivian lately. Before I preferred Abby....
 
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SabyMan

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Abby has options , but only at the end she gets nude at end add $$ , but Viv is nude from start included in her fee .
Vivian has never touched her phone in 60 plus sessions , Abby uses it all the time 100 plus sessions .
Vivian is sensual sexy massage hj and enjoys herself , Abby is more therapeutic but she will adjust to your needs if asked , and has more options $$ but is picky ymmv greatly.
How far does Abby’s options go? I saw her once and had a feeling she offered more.
 

swizzlechest

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maybe its a tease and denial thing where you build up and then she answers a phone call and ignores your blue balls for 10 mins before coming back. :unsure:
 

SabyMan

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Both good looking but Abby is a little more attractive both face and body imo.

Anyone experience past the HE finish?
 

WIll230

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For you did she say fully nude while massaging


For your session, did Abby say she will be fully nude during the session? I have been with her for a while and she has never taken her clothes off during the massage part which I don't mind at all because you are facing down and I want her to be comfortable while working on my knots. If she promised you that then yeah talk to her. She did answer the phone once during one of my sessions but it was important call from a family member. She explained to me afterward and I am good with that. As far as value goes, for the post massage pleasure, she is top notch and has never failed me. Vivian seems a bit distance perhaps because YMMV stuff but I feel she didn't open up as much as Abby. Enjoy the ladies because once they are gone you wont' have much to choose from for Asian Indy MAs.

Im not worried about being nude the whole thing since as you stated the massage part even in longer sessions your faced down anyways.. my bigger complaint or observation was that from all the reviews and research i did on here, it implied she goes fully nude, which was not my experience at any point of the massage or finish.
 

SabyMan

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Im not worried about being nude the whole thing since as you stated the massage part even in longer sessions your faced down anyways.. my bigger complaint or observation was that from all the reviews and research i did on here, it implied she goes fully nude, which was not my experience at any point of the massage or finish.
For the finish she should be completely nude. Could by YMMV
 
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