Brian Burke

[21pro]

this article has to be bullshit. it is word for word tampering if anything is true in it. that's all i have to say on the matter.

i won't believe it until his contract expires.

 

[21pro]

you mean the media plays the masses.

this is selling papers. that's all.

what do you think guyroch? is Burkie gonna sign with MLSEL?

 

[21pro]

yes, I know. and the speaking to eachother is done through the media. just as guyroch says.

 

[GlavaMan]

I think Burke will not go back to Vancouver as their GM.

 

[Herodotus]

I think the question Leaf fans need to ask themselves is this: what does Brian Burke really bring to the table? His Vancouver teams were hardly world-beaters (of note: Luongo was added by Dave Nonis, not BB) and almost all of the key young pieces that franchises are built on were already in place in Anaheim - Burke did a great job tweaking the team through trades and free agency.

Can he build a winning organization that will contend year after year? Because the TML job is a massive rebuilding project and the fans here demand continued excellence. Ok, mediocrity is more like it. But I think that once they get a taste of success, Leaf Nation will want it year-in, year-out.

I think Burke may be a good-to-great GM for a team that has many pieces in place but that needs to make the "next step". He is a bold and smart trader and NHL-ready talent evaluator (except of goalies) and team builder who does a good job deflecting attention away from the players and coaches. The Leafs have a long way to go before they're at that stage.

 

[21pro]

I don't see Burke coming to toronto because he doesn't like to golf.

 

[Lapper]

they just showed burke on tv. he said he has 1 more year in anaheim and has asked for an extension there. he said no team has ever talked to him. now burkey wouldn't lie, would he???

rumor is canucks are going to announce player agent mike gillis as their new gm.

 

[GlavaMan]

rumor is canucks are going to announce player agent mike gillis as their new gm.

This will be announced tomorrow (Wed.)

 

[calloway]

rumor is canucks are going to announce player agent mike gillis as their new gm.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=a4b5cbbf-5d13-4452-b605-3520f0bdf619&k=92611

 

[21pro]

This will be announced tomorrow (Wed.)

it was already announced today. or do you mean the official press conf.?

 

[jimmyt]

I think the question Leaf fans need to ask themselves is this: what does Brian Burke really bring to the table?

Can he build a winning organization that will contend year after year?

Categorically;

1) He brings to the table the set of nuts a GM needs to work in Toronto to tell the board at MLSE and the local media to fuck themselves, and do his job without caring what any of those people think.

2) He needs 5 yrs to have a consistent 100 point team here, which is why the 5yr - $23Mil figure keeps coming up.

23 mil, and autonomy over the hockey operation will get him here. It'll be fun.

 

[Herodotus]

Good. Full court press for Lou Lamoriello and/or Ken Holland.

 

[Lapper]

Good. Full court press for Lou Lamoriello and/or Ken Holland.

good luck landing ken holland. the canucks have been after their native son for years.

 

[Neverenuff$]

Burke's career dodged a bullet

 

[lawyerman]

It would have been nice if Mr. Burke was the Leafs GM. Good luck to him in Anaheim. He has contractual obligations the he must adhere to and obviously the owner knows a good thing and will try and lock him up for an extension. I am sure Mr. Burke will be looking into all of his options.

The Leafs have no idea what the hell they are going to do. They always try and hinge their bets on someone and when that falls through, then it is back to square one. It is proposterous that the Leafs (most likely) do not have a backup plan. The draft is coming up very soon and with no one in place at the helm. This is by no means an insult to Mr. Fletcher. He has had his time and would make a wonderful consultant for the club. Peddie admitting that the hiring of JFJ was a mistake. Can you imagine having a GM in place for that long and then saying that it was a mistake while the GM is still in the position? Ludricious.

It would not be such a bad thing if this was a successful hockey club but it is not (in terms of winning, not dollars). The Leafs are in turmoil and this seems that this among many other factors is not going to just disappear.

Regards,

Lawyerman

 

[lawyerman]

Supposedly Ken Holland was #2 on the Leafs wish list, though he would've been number 1 on mine (or Lamorello, but i don't think he's going anywhere). I guess he is the back-up plan, if reports are true.

The Leafs had better have the new GM in place well before the draft.

Peddie himself is the biggest mistake of them all at MLSE.

I completely agree with Ken Holland. He would probably be number one on my list as well.

I have no comment on Richard Peddie. I have faith in Cliff as he is a very smart hockey man and will give his input on who is hired as the next GM.

 

[21pro]

whatever... i thought you said Burke was all but a done deal. and my reply was you pay too much attention to local news. the spin has got you spun.

 

[lawyerman]

Hiring Nonis for one year and then hold a management position to wait for Burke is ludricious. I thought Cliff said he will wait until the new GM starts and in turn will hire their preference for a coach.

If they want to hire Nonis or anyone else for that matter, then the Leafs must do this properly. The GM must be a permanent position and not a band-aid solution. What kind of respect will the Leafs have (isn't all the respect and credibility gone anyways) in having Nonis as the temporary GM?

Nonis was average as a GM. He did steal Luongo from Florida and that had to be one of the best trades in recent memory. He has had some good and bad acquisitions as well.

 

[lawyerman]

Why is it ludrcious ? He tutored under Burke and so who be better to start
setting things up for when Burke comes over ... Next season is a write off
again the plan of this organization is to start building a foundation of draft
picks..

Also the thing I liked about Nonis is he saw his team wasn't that good when
the trading deadline came along and didn't mortgage the future ( trade draft
pics ) just to get into the first round ..

Fletcher and Nonis are two good hockey minds that can GM for next year ... Also if Burke is MLSE number one choice and your just going to be shit next
year then why not wait ...

Isn't every GM temporary ... You can be fired at anytime ... Also look at
the Flyers they fired Clarke and put in a interim GM and he did such a good
job he kept it ... That guy was put there until they could find the best GM .. Every GM or coach fired usually has a interim put to his position

Thanks for the info guyroch. I understand that Nonis was Burke's first lieutenant. I don't think Nonis is capable of doing the job himself. I think that Burke and Nonis are capable in running a hockey club.

Believe it or not, I wasn't born yesterday. I understand that people are hired and fired on a daily basis. Actually, I am involved with labour disputes all the time. It's quite obvious Cliff doesn't want to be around for one year no matter how much he says he is enjoying it. Burke must get out of his contract this year and he might hire Nonis as an assistant GM. It is not in the best interests for Burke to be employed with Anaheim and Nonis in Toronto even though Burke has his heart set on Toronto, Would Burke call Nonis and tell him that he would like this certain person coaching the Leafs? Maybe he can suggest a trade for him as well. As a matter of fact, how about Burke trading Pronger for McCabe? Beauchemin for Wellwood? I am just being silly but try and understand that Burke must be hired first.

If Nonis is hired, Burke should be coming shortly afterwards. I would not leave Nonis in there for one year running the place and hiring a coach. Nonis did not make any trades at the deadline because he didn't have much to work with in the first place.

The Leafs need help right now. Waiting for Burke another year is another year wasted. Granted, the Leafs don't look like they are going to improve anytime soon but they need immediate help.

Is Brian Burke the only available GM in the NHL?

How about Ken Holland or Jim Rutherford? Personally, I would take either one of them over Burke. I think Burke is great but he is not quite in the same class as those two.

You can also add Doug Wilson who has done a solid job with San Jose or Jim Nill who always seems to be a hot commodity.

 

[new2game]

Why the facination with Nonis??

..what has he accomplished???.....I think his team made the playoffs one more time than the JFJ led Leafs did over that span of time....and not mortgaging the future???...he got fired cause he sat on his hands and did nothing at the trade deadline...and that 08 Canucks team badly underachieved..injuries or not..

Meanwhile, Doug Armstrong is available...the architect of the Dallas Stars...who have a legitimate shot at the Cup this year...yes, that's Armstrong's team..not Brett Hull's..

Armstrong is the best AVAILABLE candidate..and an excellent one at that....not some pie in the sky stealing a GM from another club candidate


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