Bush will win.

[fireman2525]

What most people don't know is that the Bush family is part of a secret society. there is no way the brains ( Big oil, ET AL )behind the throne, will allow their new control of the world to be lost due to a mere presidential election.

Think about it...even "IF" W were to lose the election...The Electoral Collage votes can override all those votes. and name Bush -President. It could also work the other way but I don't think the democrat's have any real pull in world events but bush's brain trust does -believe it.

So in the end Bush wins in november.

 

[Goober Mcfly]

*tosses a tin-foil hat in fireman2525's direction*

 

[anon1]

*tosses a tin-foil hat in fireman2525's direction*

*tosses an unpinned hand grenade in fireman2525's direction*

 

[happygrump]

Both Dubya and Kerry were/are members of the Harvard "Skull and Bones" society.

 

[Gord's Bro]

Think about it...even "IF" W were to lose the election...The Electoral Collage votes can override all those votes. and name Bush -President. It could also work the other way but I don't think the democrat's have any real pull in world events but bush's brain trust does -believe it.

So in the end Bush wins in november.

My God, let's hope not!!!!

 

[tompeepin]

Both Dubya and Kerry were/are members of the Harvard "Skull and Bones" society.

So the "man" has got his bases covered! hahaha

 

[red]

where is my copy of catcher in the rye?

 

[Drunken Master]

twitching and blinking furiously

I am the Angel of Death. The time of Redemption is a hand.

racks shotgun, stalks out of room

 

[Diode]

Drunken Master...are you wearing a funny hat and listening to Tom Jones?

 

[Drunken Master]

Drunken Master...are you wearing a funny hat and listening to Tom Jones?

Actually I'm drinking whisky and sobbing quietly.

 

[red]

try listening to tom waits- that will cheer you up

 

[onthebottom]

It's a warm and comforting feeling - perhaps democracy is too important to leave to the people....... (steals movie line and runs)

OTB

 

[Cobra1]

For fucks sakes

Both Dubya and Kerry were/are members of the Harvard "Skull and Bones" society.

Its Yale - YALE !!!

What is interesting is that this is the first time any of the Bonesman have squared off - under the right conditions, with the right phrase - both are supposed to turn and leave the room - which I know there are people hoping that happens in a telvised debate - I suspect Kerry and Bush will discuss this long before any debates if they happen - and agree to break tradition.

And to the tin foil hats - the popular vote decides the Electoral College. Namely, if you win a state, then you get that states electoral college votes which are broken out by population - it is just one more of those US checks and balances etc. There is nothing sinister or untoward behind it - it is pretty clear and up front.

What is interesting is that KEnnedy and Nixon (I think), and possibly GWB also depending on how you count it - won the US Presidency with a majority of the electoral college votes, and less than a majority of the popular vote. Kennedy won by having the mafia/union organizations in hand in WEst Virginia - who delivered the state despite strong dislike for Cathloics. Yes Kennedy bought the election, which was why it was easy to rationalize that he wasnt really the PResident anyway when the time came. West Virginia is still a key state, GWB won in 2000 - but may lose it this time. He is spending alot of time there - and also in Penn - but of course doesnt have time to go to the NAACP, which I am not sure is a good political move - but Rove is pretty savvy (and sneaky) - so there must be an interesting plan.

 

[pistol]

USA election

With the country so deeply divided, both sides should line up their supporters who are not going to change their vote no matter what and, agree to spend money on a per capita basis on the remaining 5-6% of 'swing' voters. They could cure cancer or fund AIDS research or rebuild Iraq with the savings.

 

[onthebottom]

Re: USA election

With the country so deeply divided, both sides should line up their supporters who are not going to change their vote no matter what and, agree to spend money on a per capita basis on the remaining 5-6% of 'swing' voters. They could cure cancer or fund AIDS research or rebuild Iraq with the savings.

It's even more concentrated than that, there are only 4-6 states that will matter (Ohio, Fl, Penn, MI.....) and you're looking at the swing voters in those states.

OTB

 

[xix]

If he wins

DOes it mean that the USa may go bankrupt?
The war must have cost at least 5 billion by nowor more.

I guess there will be more homeless in the US. Does it mean WIll have to fence opurselves form exodus of illegal aliens hoping the fence and swimming across the lake?

 

[happygrump]

I certainly hope it's not up to the Republican power structures in Florida that take it upon themselves to decide the outcome again... They're the ones that made sure that entire segments of the population who would probably vote Democrat were either denied their right to vote or had their ballots rejected.

From the Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election by the US Commission on Civil Rights, published June 2001:

Statewide, based on county-level statistical estimates, African American voters were nearly 10 times more likely than white voters to have their ballots rejected in the November 2000 election.

 

[onthebottom]

Looks like Florida is, once again, at the forefront of electoral unaccountability. There was a lawsuit launched against the State of Florida today because the state wants to prohibit recounts of online votes! After the 2000 debacle, shouldn't there be criminal charges against the people running that state. Why is it that anywhere a Bush is in power, bullshit happens?


"Suit targets Florida's ballot-recount rules
Last modified: July 7, 2004, 4:44 PM PDT
By Reuters

Voting-rights groups sued Florida election administrators Wednesday to overturn a rule that prohibits manual recounting of ballots cast with touch-screen machines, a lawsuit with echoes of the state's disputed 2000 presidential election voting.

The lawsuit said the rule was "illogical" and rested on the questionable assumption that electronic voting machines perform flawlessly 100 percent of the time. It also said the rule violated a Florida law that expressly requires manual recounts of certain ballots if the margin in an election is less than 0.25 percent of the votes cast. "


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20040707/tc_nm/campaign_florida_dc

This is a stupid issue, when was the last time you got the wrong amount of money from an ATM (never happens does it), same companies making voting machines. With all the dangling chads and Buchanan Democrats I would think the most accurate part of the voting chain would be the voting machine.

OTB

 

[Ickabod]

perhaps democracy is too important to leave to the people....... (steals movie line and runs)

OTB

A truth we're certainly finding out the hard way.