Can somebody explain to me Asian popularity on this board?

[katcalla]

I am very attracted to oriental men and women because I really like wide eyes, which is why I also find many aboriginal, Norse and Turkic people very attractive. It's a purely physical thing, no different than being attracted to big boobs or certain hair colour.

So, if this sheds any light upon inquiring minds, good. If it does not, so be it.

Within the past week, I extended a dinner invitation to two women. A Chinese lady and a Canadian lady. They are not my SO or my student. I am a single man so I like to date. The dinner was at the same restaurant.

The Chinese lady was constantly paying attention to me. She held on to my arm, fixed my hair and sat very close during dinner. She loved the food and service and asked if it was alright if she went to the Lady's room and when the bill came, she said: "It is very nice of you to invite me to dinner. When you take me home, can I make coffee and make dessert for you?"

The Canadian woman kept her distance, announced during dinner three times that she was going out to smoke without pause and when the bill came, she conveniently found it was time to go to the bathroom. When she came back from the bathroom, I told her that I had invited her for dinner and I wasn't expecting her to pay for any part of dinner. She just shrugged and said: "All women do that so we don't have to pay. Hello?."

The Chinese lady called the next day to thank me and say she had a great time. We made another date.

The Canadian woman texted three days later and said: "I might be free next week. I want to go to 'So and So Restaurant'. I texted back and said I'm busy and won't have time to see her. She did not reply.

This is the same pattern I have experienced since I was 17 years old.

I like dating Asian women better.

All I am getting from your story is that you prefer a certain dynamic in your romantic relationships and seek out women who provide you with what you want (aren't we all?). But along the way you somehow manage to belittle an entire female gender of caucasian race just because they (allegedly) don't fit into your relationship model.
Just say you like subservient partners, no shame in that, but there's no need to bash white women. Especially because I know plenty of white girls who behave like the Chinese lady you described. Your inductive reasoning doesn't stand a chance of deduction which means it's flawed.

 

[Don Draper]

All I am getting from your story is that you prefer a certain dynamic in your romantic relationships and seek out women who provide you with what you want (aren't we all?). But along the way you somehow manage to belittle an entire female gender of caucasian race just because they (allegedly) don't fit into your relationship model. Just say you like subservient partners, no shame in that, but there's no need to bash white women. Especially because I know plenty of white girls who behave like the Chinese lady you described. Your inductive reasoning doesn't stand a chance of deduction which means it's flawed.

If you noticed from my post, I was having dinner with this Canadian lady because I found her attractive and interesting. So much so that I wanted to have dinner with her and see where our meeting might lead. If I wanted to 'bash' Caucasian women, I can simply draw upon bad past experiences and unfairly paint them all with one brush. That would not be fair at all. Not all women (whatever their race might be) are the same. Sure, Asian women are my preferred choice but an attractive woman is an attractive woman and if I have the opportunity to dine with one of my choice, I'll be happy to do so. I've had great past relationships with Anglo women. This particular one was not to be. Since we were all on the topic and it was timely and relevant, I shared my experience.

What I find Asian women have more of than North American women is not 'subservience' but rather 'femininity'. I truly adore femininity. I find that where a North American woman will just wear jeans and have a 'whatever' attitude whilst sitting in a patio with me, an Asian woman will actually go further and dress herself up a little more, a little more sexy and be more polite and attentive within my circle of friends. After 30ish years of dating women of all ethnicities, I speak from experience so there's no reason to state my reasoning is flawed, it's simply is what I have seen and experienced through decades of dates and relationships will all sorts of women.

 

[IM469]

So you like the stereotypical asian female. Then would you say that the asian girl from asia is more attaractive than the one born here and acts more Canadian?

I think you are confusing attitude with attractive. Asian girls born in Canada can be just as attractive as those from Asia. Indeed I have found some of the blends (Black/Asian, Russian/ Asian) can be stunning. It might be a little more rare but some Asians born here (primarily first generation) can have the warmth and respect that men love to be with.

Women like to be pampered, I can't see why some womern are upset to learn that some men like pampering too.

 

[Pleezerwell]

If I wanted to 'bash' Caucasian women, I can simply draw upon bad past experiences and unfairly paint them all with one brush. That would not be fair at all. Not all women (whatever their race might be) are the same.

From the earlier post...

This is the same pattern I have experienced since I was 17 years old.

Seems a touch contradictory. But I'm sure DD will enlighten me on the error in my perception.

PW

 

[Ridgeman08]

In my experience...

Since Don offered his, I will offer mine... as I also like to entertain ladies for dinner.

I find more often than not, that a lady reflects the attitude that you project towards them. If I am attentive to them, treat them like a gentleman (car doors/ regular doors/ help them with their coat/ their chair etc), include them in the dinner choices (e.g. wine, appetizer) show a genuine interest in what they like, be attentive to their choices, etc... they respond accordingly.

Just last night, I took a lady (born in Hungary, but raised here in Canada from a toddler), out for dinner whom I met on POF. (It was our third "date") She held my hand, arm, placed her hand on my leg, we joked around, had some laughs, and she's not a smoker so she didn't go for a smoke, but at one point she asked if I minded if she visit the ladies room, and I said not at all, as long as she didn't mind me watching her as she walked away from the table, and she said, please do, and she'd be disappointed if I didn't check out her ass! LoL When she returned she asked me what I thought, so I told her I approved of her choice of skirt this evening since it accentuated her backside and legs nicely. The conversation took a nice turn after that, and when the bill came she offered to split it with me, (as she did the first and second time we met) but I insisted on taking care of it. She smiled and said, thank you, but dessert was on her, giving me a coy look.

Later on... at her place.... dessert WAS her!

 

[Don Draper]

Seems a touch contradictory. But I'm sure DD will enlighten me on the error in my perception. PW

Sure it's a pattern but that doesn't stop from finding a woman attractive. I could find a gem for all I know and I'm willing to take a chance.

 

[katcalla]

Everyone likes to be pampered, I can't see why some womern are upset to learn that all men like pampering too.

I corrected your post for you And if you were implying that I am one of those "some women", you clearly have never met me-I work as an SP because I get off on pleasing

If you noticed from my post, I was having dinner with this Canadian lady because I found her attractive and interesting. So much so that I wanted to have dinner with her and see where our meeting might lead. If I wanted to 'bash' Caucasian women, I can simply draw upon bad past experiences and unfairly paint them all with one brush. That would not be fair at all. Not all women (whatever their race might be) are the same. Sure, Asian women are my preferred choice but an attractive woman is an attractive woman and if I have the opportunity to dine with one of my choice, I'll be happy to do so. I've had great past relationships with Anglo women. This particular one was not to be. Since we were all on the topic and it was timely and relevant, I shared my experience.

What I find Asian women have more of than North American women is not 'subservience' but rather 'femininity'. I truly adore femininity. I find that where a North American woman will just wear jeans and have a 'whatever' attitude whilst sitting in a patio with me, an Asian woman will actually go further and dress herself up a little more, a little more sexy and be more polite and attentive within my circle of friends. After 30ish years of dating women of all ethnicities, I speak from experience so there's no reason to state my reasoning is flawed, it's simply is what I have seen and experienced through decades of dates and relationships will all sorts of women.

I don't need to state that your reasoning is flawed, I can prove it. Pleezerwell highlighted my point quite eloquently. Let's look at what you said in a more condensed way, please feel free to point out with what you disagree:

1. You describe 1 example of your interaction with 2 ladies
2. You then imply that behaviour of oriental and white women can be inferred from the example provided
3. You then state that you have observed this pattern since you were 17 which is supposed to further support #2

Aside from the sample size that will make any research academic roll their eyes, there's a big logical reasoning problem with #2 and #3. You take a pattern of your observations/experience and induce a theory about oriental and white women. That's all fine except that this theory cannot be correct if you cannot apply deduction to it and receive the same results you started with, i.e. unless every single outcome of testing your theory supports the theory then said theory is incorrect. To put it simply, in math, after you add 17+3+2 and get 22 and then subtract 2 and 3 and don't get 17 that means answer 22 is wrong. In this case, if one finds an example of an oriental or white woman that does not fit into your theory then your theory is wrong. And I know at least one white woman that does not behave like the white woman you described, so whatever generalization you were implying-it is incorrect.

Also, experience does not replace logic. If you'd like, I can show show you at least 3 examples of flawed reasoning in people of all levels of education, experience and intelligence (just google Monty Hall problem, Wason Selection task, Keith Stanovich's or Jeffrey Rosenthal's work on statistical bias in human reasoning). One of the most important things I learned in university is the awareness of how deeply biased our brains are and how easy it is to highjack them.

As for femininity, I often hear that Eastern European women are very feminine. They also happen to be white. All I'm trying to say is choose your words carefully.

ps I still think you sig pic is super hot!

 

[Don Draper]

I don't need to state that your reasoning is flawed, I can prove it. Pleezerwell highlighted my point quite eloquently. Let's look at what you said in a more condensed way, please feel free to point out with what you disagree:

1. You describe 1 example of your interaction with 2 ladies
2. You then imply that behaviour of oriental and white women can be inferred from the example provided
3. You then state that you have observed this pattern since you were 17 which is supposed to further support #2

Aside from the sample size that will make any research academic roll their eyes, there's a big logical reasoning problem with #2 and #3. You take a pattern of your observations/experience and induce a theory about oriental and white women. That's all fine except that this theory cannot be correct if you cannot apply deduction to it and receive the same results you started with, i.e. unless every single outcome of testing your theory supports the theory then said theory is incorrect. To put it simply, in math, after you add 17+3+2 and get 22 and then subtract 2 and 3 and don't get 17 that means answer 22 is wrong. In this case, if one finds an example of an oriental or white woman that does not fit into your theory then your theory is wrong. And I know at least one white woman that does not behave like the white woman you described, so whatever generalization you were implying-it is incorrect.

Also, experience does not replace logic. If you'd like, I can show show you at least 3 examples of flawed reasoning in people of all levels of education, experience and intelligence (just google Monty Hall problem, Wason Selection task, Keith Stanovich's or Jeffrey Rosenthal's work on statistical bias in human reasoning). One of the most important things I learned in university is the awareness of how deeply biased our brains are and how easy it is to highjack them.

As for femininity, I often hear that Eastern European women are very feminine. They also happen to be white. All I'm trying to say is choose your words carefully.

ps I still think you sig pic is super hot!

Sure. Whatever you say.

I'll always like Asian women best. Their skin, their hair, their eyes and their manner.

They make me feel happy.

Ta!

 

[IM469]

I corrected your post for you And if you were implying that I am one of those "some women", you clearly have never met me-I work as an SP because I get off on pleasing

I wasn't directing the post at any specific person, just as common complaint I hear about how Asian women treat men. (My sister is the most vocal).

Thanks for the correction. It seems gibberish is now becoming my first language.

 

[Don]

As for femininity, I often hear that Eastern European women are very feminine. They also happen to be white.

+1! They are my favorites!

 

[Butler1000]

Mr. Draper it sounds like your two experiences are no more than the same as two similar experiences with an sp. One was what you wanted and one wasn't what you expected.
Either way I didn't see anywhere that the asian lady reached for her wallet either.

The only difference is one will get you back as a repeat customer.

 

[fuji]

I know an Asian woman used to surf dating sites for free meals. She would decide where she wanted to eat, msg the guys currently chatting her up on dating sites until one agreed to take her.

She would show up, order the most expensive stuff on the menu, eat and bail.

Those guys never even got a kiss out of it and she wasn't remotely interested in them. She was there to tour expensive restaurants. She said these guys enjoyed having a woman to keep them company for dinner and had convinced herself she was doing them a favour.

She was a friend of a friend. I used to think a lot less of my friend for maintaining that friendship.

Anyway point is there are users from every background.

 

[GameBoy27]

My sig says it all...

 

[Azprint]

Sure. Whatever you say.

I'll always like Asian women best. Their skin, their hair, their eyes and their manner.

They make me feel happy.

Ta!

It is fine and dandy, but your example was indeed comical.

 

[Medman52]

I think Japanese women are some of the sexiest women to walk this earth!

 

[Shades]

Interesting thread...
I frequent Asian MP and SP's and I am Caucasian. Why...because they are different than what I live with...and that difference is exotic and intriguing. From physiology to mannerisms I enjoy meeting and experiencing my contact with many and my more significant relationships with a few. Language is often a barrier to getting to know them better...or at least being able to converse better...it is why I am looking into learning Mandarin, event though I do not have a great facility with languages.

 

[frankcastle]

I'm with the OP, Asian SPs and MPAs don't do much for me in general.

On the MP side it tends to be cheaper and the massage is sometimes better. But I'm not of a fan of the cheap release/good massage/older and less attractive attendant. However, I do understand why 2 out of 3 is good enough for some guys..... been there.

 

[roblestone]

Yes yes yes and the pussy....... oh yeah that tight pussy...... I love most Asian women - Chinese, Japanese, Korean...

Yes that horizontal slit is so exotic. But I like the eraser nipples too.

 

[milkbone302006]

Who knows. I guess that's like asking why brothers like white girls. For myself I think Asian females are beautiful. Not to say that there ain't many beautiful other females but my choice would be Asian. I think I'm bias after living in HK for 3 years. Lets just say for a Gawilo in HK is like heaven

 

[canada-man]