Canada comes second last out of 20 countries in new health-care ranking

DesRicardo

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JuanGoodman

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The bare minimum. And it's a bonus if they do their job well.
I actually had some interaction with our health care system recently

I saw first hand that the nurses and doctors are doing amazing job

inside crumbling system

it seemed like a miracle that they can actually function as well as they did

the shortage of staff was very noticeable

but the once that were there did a stellar job
 

nottyboi

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Most people are not aware of all the little fifedoms built within the system. THings like "hospital rights" dolled out to physicians and partnerships. Didn't DOFO say he was gonna fix it 2 terms ago? Has there been ANY improvement whatsoever?
 

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Health care is provincial.

DoFo has cut funding and privatized services at higher prices.
His policies are driving family doctors and nurses out of the province.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I actually had some interaction with our health care system recently

I saw first hand that the nurses and doctors are doing amazing job

inside crumbling system

it seemed like a miracle that they can actually function as well as they did

the shortage of staff was very noticeable

but the once that were there did a stellar job
This was my experience as well.
When it came time to help, they all did a wonderful job and were very professional and prompt.
Including the receptionist if I may add.
 

DesRicardo

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I actually had some interaction with our health care system recently

I saw first hand that the nurses and doctors are doing amazing job

inside crumbling system

it seemed like a miracle that they can actually function as well as they did

the shortage of staff was very noticeable

but the once that were there did a stellar job
I've had plenty interaction with our health care.

My first hand experience is we are lacking not only in labour, but in service and process too.

As I pointed out, Canada is the 4th highest spender on health care, but multi-level/complex health care is severely lacking.

If you're going for day surgery and will be out in a few days/hours, you probably won't see the issues.

And when you complain about the process or experience, you are swept under the rug. It's almost impossible to complain. It is like a mafia.
 

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The doctors and nurses are bureaucrats themselves.
No doubt. Family doctors are spending more time on administrative tasks and less time seeing patients. My doctor for instance is part of a family health team that also serves as a teaching practice. If I call today and say I'd like to make an appointment to see my doctor I'd have to wait 3 weeks. Book a physical that's 3-4 months.
 

K Douglas

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Health care is provincial.

DoFo has cut funding and privatized services at higher prices.
His policies are driving family doctors and nurses out of the province.
I'll tell you what's driven doctors out of the province more than anything they are operating on a fee schedule that is over 10 years old! In the meantime the province has given them a small temporary increase here and there and then finally a decent 9.95% bump up for January to March 2025 but now its back to the old schedule of benefits for the foreseeable future.
 

K Douglas

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For a simple mri , CT scan , wait time is 5 months in GTA. Too many people.
Or they can get a referral to Buffalo and get the scan within a week. Our system is broken. And the left's answer is to throw more money at it without solving the underlying issues.
 

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No doubt. Family doctors are spending more time on administrative tasks and less time seeing patients. My doctor for instance is part of a family health team that also serves as a teaching practice. If I call today and say I'd like to make an appointment to see my doctor I'd have to wait 3 weeks. Book a physical that's 3-4 months.
My doctor works with a team and rotates walk-in hours. If he is working today between 11-2, I call in the morning and get put on his list and come in for 11. Getting same day or next day is easy.

Booking an actual physical is only a couple of weeks. Speciality referrals are usually 3-6 months.

At least that is my experience.
 

K Douglas

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My doctor works with a team and rotates walk-in hours. If he is working today between 11-2, I call in the morning and get put on his list and come in for 11. Getting same day or next day is easy.

Booking an actual physical is only a couple of weeks. Speciality referrals are usually 3-6 months.

At least that is my experience.
You're very lucky. That's not the norm.
 

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This is one of many Health Care studies that ranks Canada fairly low. I think this one is really skewed towards the US since it emphasizes access and speed, not actual outcomes over a period of time.

A more reliable or 'better' Health Care survey is by the Common Wealth Fund. Canada usually ranks near the bottom but some times moves up a rank. I think this study is superior because (a) it's annual and there's a history you can see, (b) it has a focus on actual outcomes (which is the ultimate goal of Healtcare), not just access and speed.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024

That being said, our healthcare system has always sucked and has always been near the bottom of many healthcare studies. Thinking that we just keep doing the same thing is dumb. We really need to look to Europe to see how Health Care is done properly.
 
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Frankfooter

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I'll tell you what's driven doctors out of the province more than anything they are operating on a fee schedule that is over 10 years old! In the meantime the province has given them a small temporary increase here and there and then finally a decent 9.95% bump up for January to March 2025 but now its back to the old schedule of benefits for the foreseeable future.
A sign at my doctor's said they get $37 per appointment from the province and from that they pay their office and admin overhead as well as themselves.
 
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