Canada elections results 2025
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Why? Because of the constitution? Treaties? These have NEVER been insurmountable obstacles to the reorganization of nations. That's what the Quebec referendum reference acknowledges, at least if you read between the lines, and to the extent that anyone would feel bound by their opinion.
Plus, when has it ever made any sense to keep a disgruntled population hostage within a nation? That NEVER works out.
Either Canada has to make it worthwhile for Alberta to stay, or they WILL leave, by whatever means are necessary.
Lol, the polling shows no chance. They got what, a few hundred the other day at the legislature? The reason why Alberta wouldn't leave is because the majority don't want to. It's that simple.
If anything Trump is a deterent to this. He would pipe up, rally the Canadians to the flag, and it would resoundingly defeated.
And we would move on from that farce.
Watch the polling numbers grow, rally after rally. That's how the Quebec numbers were built.
Of course, it could be easily short circuited by reasonable federal policy, but I'm not holding my breath on that happening under Carn-Evil.
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The Quebec referendum was a continuous off shoot of the Quiet Revolution where Quebec society changed. It did create a increased sense of nationalistic pride. There has also always been a language barrier and a cultural one. The circumstances are more different then you think.
Cripes all it will take is one pipeline promise and it's over. Alberta is not the huge conservative stronghold you think it is. They elected an NDP govt in the last ten years. Calgary and Edmonton are much more diverse. And it's common sense country. They will see the problems.
I expect within about a year, after the recession really hits down south, things will change. Things will settle down to not even a simmer.
Those are not persuasive arguments. The NDP only snuck in because of the Conservative/Wild Rose split off in one election. Once the Conservatives reformed, the NDP were promptly trounced and are the only government in Alberta history was wasn't returned for a second term.
I agree that separation is avoidable, just like most divorces are avoidable, but I question whether the Liberals have the political courage to do what it would take.
And believe me, there is a SUBSTANTIAL cultural divide between westerners and political leaders from eastern Canada. And it DOES NOT end with Alberta. And the more people who persist in posting videos on social media claiming that: a) that native treaties prevent separation, or b) Alberta isn't a real province, or c) support for separation just comes from far right nutjobs, etc, the more that disconnect will grow. I'll predict right now that the numbers will jump by at least 10% in the first 3 months of separation talk following this election.
Don't fall down the rabbit hole. The algorithms are feeding you fake support.
And adding 10% gets you to possibly 35%. Not even close.
And then 35% gets you to 45%, and 45% to 55%, and then you have a call for a referendum.
Here is the first problem you have.
The separatists are divided. So is the question for independence? Or Join the USA. Bet you get a pretty even division. And that will become the topic.
Referendums are for succession from Canada. A sovereign Alberta could create its own process for determining its political future following separation. Perhaps an election rather than a referendum. The two issues don't have to be decided simultaneously.
Lol. It's going to come up well before. There are two clear sides within this. And they are not going to get along like you think.
if that is the case the Quebec separation threat would have just been laughed off and we would not be preferentially funding Quebec with bribe money
but that is not the case
if Quebec, AB or SASK decide to leave, they will leave & confederation would die
The USA would then pick off English speaking provinces off one at at time
it will become a game of musical chairs to see who gets stuck with Trudeau/ Carney liberal debt
The two primary responsibilities of a Prime Minister as per Jean Chrétien
1. Hold the country together
2. Maintain the economic relationship with the US
Trudeau definitely failed at both ( what an idiot)
Unless Carney reverse course on his insane net zero agenda /bill c-69 / industrial carbon tax he will fail @ both and it could be catastrophic for all Canadians
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you are so myoptic on this issue
when the cash cow provinces start down the separation road, one really should ask why rather than defaulting to speculating about division within the movement to separate
its like the drunken husband stating she will never leave because of the kids, so lets give her another backhand slap so she has matching shiners
I see, but Trumputin is the one who called Carney to congratulate him on his victory and proceeded to invite him to the WH.
Who is likely to lie to you?Thats Carney's story and he's sticking to it
