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Carney Hits It Out Of the Park

PeteOsborne

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Liberal supporter: Someone who willfully supported the Liberal government over the past decade, cheered on their poor fiscal management and woke agenda, and continues to, with their hatred for all things Conservative outweighing their love of the country, the future of their children and grandchildren, and their own self-respect.

Good?
Yes thank you.
Under that description, I am not a Liberal supporter.
 

Skoob

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Yup Trudeau was stymied as well, so he created a whole new framework for approval and got 2 major pipelines built and the first LNG facility in Canada. 🤣😎
Trudeau was the one cancelling them. So he stymied himself?
 

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PeteOsborne

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I did not willfully support the Liberal government over the past decade or cheered on their poor fiscal management and woke agenda.
I did not vote Liberal while Trudeau was in charge.
I believed while he was campaigning that his policies would stagnate the economy and slow our GDP growth.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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@squeezer pay attention, honeybun :D


Mark Carney is proving to be very popular — with conservatives

It’s still early days, but so far I’m pretty impressed with what I see from Canada’s new conservative government.
Voters clearly wanted a big change after a decade of Justin Trudeau’s Liberal approach, and boy are they getting it.

There was the throne speech, delivered by no less a personage than the King himself. That alone was a great homage to our enduring traditions and storied institutions. No more of those tiresome apologies for the flaws in our collective story. Time to celebrate being Canadian! True conservatives had to love it.
And the speech itself was all “build, baby, build,” in the words of our new PM, Mark Carney. Let’s get those resources out of the ground and on their way to foreign markets. Plus a tax cut! No wonder what remains of the left — the NDP rump in Parliament, the unions and environmentalists — was left seething on the sidelines. Clearly, their day is over.
Then this week, the capper: the government’s first big piece of legislation is called the “Strong Borders Act” and it’s all about giving new powers to police and security agencies and tightening up the asylum system that spun out of control while the Trudeau Liberals ruled the roost.

It’s a sprawling bill and despite the name it’s about a lot more than the border. It would give Canada Post greater authority to open your mail. It would let police and others demand that digital service providers hand over personal data about their users, without having to get a warrant in many cases. All in the name of fighting crime.
The usual suspects — the NDP again, civil libertarians, refugee advocates — are up in arms. But it’s all being done in the name of security and managing our relationship with Donald Trump. The government seems to be using the Trump crisis as cover to give law enforcement agencies powers they’ve been seeking for years.
Given the PM’s record so far, it’s no surprise that people in parts of the country that lean heavily Conservative are getting behind him. A new poll of Albertans, out this week, shows they’re just as impressed with Carney as they are with Pierre Poilievre.

I have just one big question about this: what do the Liberals make of it all? What do they think about the new government’s tilt to the right?

OK, OK, enough along those lines. Yes indeed, our new conservative government is a Liberal government, though a Liberal government of a very different stripe.
Others have noticed this paradox, if that’s what it is. Jonathan Pedneault, late of the Green Party, said during the recent election campaign that Carney was “starting to look like a Progressive Conservative.” And writing in the Winnipeg Free Press, David McLaughlin, once chief of staff to Mulroney, says “Canada elected its first progressive conservative prime minister in over 30 years” in the person of Mark Carney.

McLaughlin goes on: “From cancelling the consumer carbon tax, to pledging to build pipelines and offering a middle-class tax cut, Carney is actively placing conservative alongside progressive in his party’s governing policies … Welcome to the new Canada, where PC doesn’t stand for ‘politically correct’ but ‘progressive conservative.’ ”
I prefer to think of Carney as a conservative progressive, but let’s not quibble over labels. The important thing is the Liberals have pulled off a rather astonishing reinvention. If nothing else, it’s proof of their fabled ideological flexibility or, if you prefer, their shameless opportunism. Whatever works, they’ll do it. Whatever’s needed to meet the moment, they’ll pull it out of their tool bag.
It’s all the more remarkable since many of the same people are involved. The minister who presided over the immigration file in 2021-2023 while the system plunged into crisis, Sean Fraser, is now Carney’s justice minister. What does he make of the tough measures to crack down on asylum shopping? Just curious.

Perhaps only the Liberals could do all this, and perhaps they could do it only at a moment of crisis. An actual Conservative Party government in “normal” times would run into a wall of resistance if it championed “build, baby, build,” slashed taxes, ripped up the asylum system and trampled on privacy rights in the name of fighting crime.
Instead, we’ll see if the “conservative” government we’ve ended up with can manage the trick. So far, they’re off to a good start.
 

Skoob

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I did not willfully support the Liberal government over the past decade or cheered on their poor fiscal management and woke agenda.
I did not vote Liberal while Trudeau was in charge.
I believed while he was campaigning that his policies would stagnate the economy and slow our GDP growth.
So why did you vote for them this time?
 

oil&gas

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Conservative voters now has a 'liberal' PM who
will look after the interest of the rich through tax cuts,
destroy Earth's climate through elimination of carbon
tax and likely pipeline construction and be ready to kiss
up to Trump to keep our export business profitable. What
more could they want? For me if Carney is going to cut
aid to Ukraine and table a well-thought-out budget before
the fall I won't have much to complain.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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What pipelines did Trudeau cancel? Name one.
It be nice you did a bit of research before asking dumb questions:


Northern Gateway - This pipeline was proposed by Enbridge in 2006 to carry oil from Alberta to British Columbia's northwest coast. The C$7.9-billion project (US$5.5 billion) faced opposition from local and Indigenous communities who feared the risk of a marine spill. The project died in 2016 after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government cancelled its permits
 
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Skoob

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What pipelines did Trudeau cancel? Name one.
Northern Gateway.

Just curious...will your next response be "name another one" or are you satisfied with the level of your failure at this point?
 
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squeezer

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@squeezer pay attention, honeybun :D


Sweetheart, YOU are the old lad who enjoys exercising with beer bottles (your own words from one of your posts yesterday so don't get mad at me), are not paying attention. I posted this article before you so rudely referred to me as "honeybun". :mad:

 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Sweetheart, YOU are the old lad who enjoys exercising with beer bottles (your own words from one of your posts yesterday so don't get mad at me), are not paying attention. I posted this article before you so rudely referred to me as "honeybun". :mad:
Sorry, didnt mean to get your boyfriend jealous 😂
 
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Skoob

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Conservative voters now has a 'liberal' PM who
will look after the interest of the rich through tax cuts,
destroy Earth's climate through elimination of carbon
tax and likely pipeline construction and be ready to kiss
up to Trump to keep our export business profitable. What
more could they want? For me if Carney is going to cut
aid to Ukraine and table a well-thought-out budget before
the fall I won't have much to complain.
Carney hoped to use retaliatory tariff revenue estimated at approx $20 billion but since he dropped them, he's scrambling to find more money. The "experienced financier" can't table a budget now because he has no idea how to tell Canadians that he can't do what he promised.
At least he's keeping Trump happy.
Elbows up!
 

Skoob

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@squeezer pay attention, honeybun :D


Mark Carney is proving to be very popular — with conservatives

It’s still early days, but so far I’m pretty impressed with what I see from Canada’s new conservative government.
Voters clearly wanted a big change after a decade of Justin Trudeau’s Liberal approach, and boy are they getting it.

There was the throne speech, delivered by no less a personage than the King himself. That alone was a great homage to our enduring traditions and storied institutions. No more of those tiresome apologies for the flaws in our collective story. Time to celebrate being Canadian! True conservatives had to love it.
And the speech itself was all “build, baby, build,” in the words of our new PM, Mark Carney. Let’s get those resources out of the ground and on their way to foreign markets. Plus a tax cut! No wonder what remains of the left — the NDP rump in Parliament, the unions and environmentalists — was left seething on the sidelines. Clearly, their day is over.
Then this week, the capper: the government’s first big piece of legislation is called the “Strong Borders Act” and it’s all about giving new powers to police and security agencies and tightening up the asylum system that spun out of control while the Trudeau Liberals ruled the roost.

It’s a sprawling bill and despite the name it’s about a lot more than the border. It would give Canada Post greater authority to open your mail. It would let police and others demand that digital service providers hand over personal data about their users, without having to get a warrant in many cases. All in the name of fighting crime.
The usual suspects — the NDP again, civil libertarians, refugee advocates — are up in arms. But it’s all being done in the name of security and managing our relationship with Donald Trump. The government seems to be using the Trump crisis as cover to give law enforcement agencies powers they’ve been seeking for years.
Given the PM’s record so far, it’s no surprise that people in parts of the country that lean heavily Conservative are getting behind him. A new poll of Albertans, out this week, shows they’re just as impressed with Carney as they are with Pierre Poilievre.

I have just one big question about this: what do the Liberals make of it all? What do they think about the new government’s tilt to the right?

OK, OK, enough along those lines. Yes indeed, our new conservative government is a Liberal government, though a Liberal government of a very different stripe.
Others have noticed this paradox, if that’s what it is. Jonathan Pedneault, late of the Green Party, said during the recent election campaign that Carney was “starting to look like a Progressive Conservative.” And writing in the Winnipeg Free Press, David McLaughlin, once chief of staff to Mulroney, says “Canada elected its first progressive conservative prime minister in over 30 years” in the person of Mark Carney.

McLaughlin goes on: “From cancelling the consumer carbon tax, to pledging to build pipelines and offering a middle-class tax cut, Carney is actively placing conservative alongside progressive in his party’s governing policies … Welcome to the new Canada, where PC doesn’t stand for ‘politically correct’ but ‘progressive conservative.’ ”
I prefer to think of Carney as a conservative progressive, but let’s not quibble over labels. The important thing is the Liberals have pulled off a rather astonishing reinvention. If nothing else, it’s proof of their fabled ideological flexibility or, if you prefer, their shameless opportunism. Whatever works, they’ll do it. Whatever’s needed to meet the moment, they’ll pull it out of their tool bag.
It’s all the more remarkable since many of the same people are involved. The minister who presided over the immigration file in 2021-2023 while the system plunged into crisis, Sean Fraser, is now Carney’s justice minister. What does he make of the tough measures to crack down on asylum shopping? Just curious.

Perhaps only the Liberals could do all this, and perhaps they could do it only at a moment of crisis. An actual Conservative Party government in “normal” times would run into a wall of resistance if it championed “build, baby, build,” slashed taxes, ripped up the asylum system and trampled on privacy rights in the name of fighting crime.
Instead, we’ll see if the “conservative” government we’ve ended up with can manage the trick. So far, they’re off to a good start.
Liberals have no clue...they just vote based on who makes them feel better emotionally.
 
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squeezer

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Liberals have no clue...they just vote based on who makes them feel better emotionally.
Based on the post below you obviously have no clue of what is going on behind closed doors. I'll leave it at that because I don't want to waste my time. Just know you are in good hands under the leadership of SuperCarney. Tear-dropping barrel on the right, please drop and go.


Carney hoped to use retaliatory tariff revenue estimated at approx $20 billion but since he dropped them, he's scrambling to find more money. The "experienced financier" can't table a budget now because he has no idea how to tell Canadians that he can't do what he promised.
At least he's keeping Trump happy.
Elbows up!
 

Skoob

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Based on the post below you obviously have no clue of what is going on behind closed doors. I'll leave it at that because I don't want to waste my time. Just know you are in good hands under the leadership of SuperCarney. Tear-dropping barrel on the right, please drop and go.
You say that as if you know what's going on "behind closed doors" when you really don't.
In fact, if it was Poilievre doing what Carney is doing "behind closed doors", you would be setting yourself on fire.
Why not just say you have no clue and you know Carney is back peddling on everything you thought he would do and now you feel emotionally betrayed but can't admit it?
 
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