Carney met with Poilievre, Blanchet as Liberals seek support for upcoming budget

JohnLarue

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Do you think that Trump would treat Canada any different with Pierre as the Prime Minister? Or is that the question Canadians should be asking?
Trump is difficult to predict
Pierre as the Prime Minister would not change Trumps fundamental tariff strategy
Although if Pierre put full blown free trade (no tariffs on Autos, steel , Dairy, softwood lumber and the myriad of other duties) on the table, we might get a better deal

however as you said ''is that the question Canadians should be asking?''

After a decade of liberal mismanagement, ideologically driven stupidity and corruption Canada desperately needs a change in direction.

We need to expand our resource development and massively shrink the size of government.

Carney misrepresented himself to the electorate as the one and only guy to deal with Trump
His green agenda is economic suicide for Canada
 

Frankfooter

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Trump is difficult to predict
Pierre as the Prime Minister would not change Trumps fundamental tariff strategy
Although if Pierre put full blown free trade (no tariffs on Autos, steel , Dairy, softwood lumber and the myriad of other duties) on the table, we might get a better deal

however as you said ''is that the question Canadians should be asking?''

After a decade of liberal mismanagement, ideologically driven stupidity and corruption Canada desperately needs a change in direction.

We need to expand our resource development and massively shrink the size of government.

Carney misrepresented himself to the electorate as the one and only guy to deal with Trump
His green agenda is economic suicide for Canada
That plan just destroyed Argentina.
Why do you think it will work here?
 

lomotil

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Oblivion
Canada is fucked now more than ever.
Carney is now being drawn and quartered by the opposition parties who will attempt to exact their pound of flesh for their support in psssing his minority government. Surely the Bloc will demand increased transfer payments to the desperately
“ have not province “ Quebec . Simultaneously, Trump sensing blood has cut off trade talks with Canada last night supposedly over Ford’s Reagan commercials which attack tariff happy Trump.
Then there is separatist Smith out in Alberta, a premier that is a MAGA operative tormenting Carney and Canada.
The diminishing Canadian economy is getting racked over the coals.
Carney must now simultaneously makes concessions to the opposition parties, Premier Smith and grovel with Washington to get Trump back at the trade talks table.

Taxpayer foreign branch plants in Ontario, namely the auto sector are being chiseled away by Trump.

The Canadian dollar will fall today and a recession is likely imminent.
 
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JohnLarue

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That plan just destroyed Argentina.
Why do you think it will work here?

once again you demonstrate you do not have the first loose clue on what you blither about

Argentina should be one of the riches countries in the world,
left leaning big government turned it into an economic basketcase

left leaning big government in Canada starting in 2015 has ruined the future of multiple generations
 
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Frankfooter

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once again you demonstrate you do not have the first loose clue on what you blither about

Argentina should be one of the riches countries in the world,
left leaning big government turned it into an economic basketcase

left leaning big government in Canada starting in 2015 has ruined the future of multiple generations
Argentina elected a right wing populist who did exactly what think Canada should do.
That resulted in a $40 billion bailout loan needed from the IMF and another $40 billion bailout from trump.

Here's the thing, larue.
I can post examples of places that have done what you and show you that its failed every time.
I can also post examples of places like Denmark that have succeeded doing what I think we should do.

All you can do is bluster, because you know what you prescribe has failed every single time its been tried.
 

JohnLarue

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Argentina elected a right wing populist who did exactly what think Canada should do.
That resulted in a $40 billion bailout loan needed from the IMF and another $40 billion bailout from trump.

Here's the thing, larue.
I can post examples of places that have done what you and show you that its failed every time.
I can also post examples of places like Denmark that have succeeded doing what I think we should do.

All you can do is bluster, because you know what you prescribe has failed every single time its been tried.

here is the thing

both Argentina and Canada got into trouble by following loonie left ideology with massive big government , over-regulation and by ignoring the need for private sector investment and productivity improvements
fortunately Canada has a small window of opportunity to right the ship , so if we act soon, only a coupe of generations of our youth will suffer the loonie lefts impacts on their now dismal future

Argentina has been a financial basket case for decades
you can not fix the structural problems that they have overnight

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Argentina has defaulted on its sovereign debt nine times since its independence in 1816. These defaults include the major ones in 2001, 2014, and 2020.
1816–present: Argentina has defaulted on its international sovereign debt nine times since gaining independence.
2001: The country defaulted on over $132 billion in federal sovereign debt, which was the world's largest default at the time.
2014: A default occurred after Argentina failed to pay a court-ordered sum to a small group of creditors, impacting its ability to repay other bondholders.
2020: Argentina defaulted for the third time in two decades, after failing to make payments on its international sovereign bonds.
yet you blame their financial woes on Javier Milei who was elected in 2023
ie a bankrupt couple blaming their bankrupt trustee for taking away their credit cards
why do you do this ?
because you stupidly think left wing rhetoric is a substitute for facts, truth , common sense and logic

in addition to being a know nothing about science, you obviously failed high school economics as well
 
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Frankfooter

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here is the thing

both Argentina and Canada got into trouble by following loonie left ideology with massive big government , over-regulation and by ignoring the need for private sector investment and productivity improvements
fortunately Canada has a small window of opportunity to right the ship , so if we act soon, only a coupe of generations of our youth will suffer the loonie lefts impacts on their now dismal future

Argentina has been a financial basket case for decades
you can not fix the structural problems that they have overnight
larue, Mileil went and cut services and taxes, just like you want done here.
It didn't work.



yet you blame their financial woes on Javier Milei who was elected in 2023
ie a bankrupt couple blaming their bankrupt trustee for taking away their credit cards
why do you do this ?
because you stupidly think left wing rhetoric is a substitute for facts, truth , common sense and logic

in addition to being a know nothing about science, you obviously failed high school economics as well
So you're saying that cutting services and taxes won't work here either?
Either you argue it will work to fix things but then you have to explain why it didn't in Argentina, or you admit that doing won't fix anything, like in Argentina.

But you won't, because it has never worked.
Its just what the billionaires tell you so they can get more tax cuts.

50 years of tax cuts for the rich failed to trickle down, economics study says
 
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