Carney skipping Quebec French Debate

CLOUD 500

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Lots of Libertarians think they are very special boys and are beyond right and left.
(Yes, this is mostly self-delusion.)

North American libertarians are almost exclusively right wing, of course.
Most forms of minarchism are also quite right-wing in practice.
No they are not. Shows how little you understand. The thing is you are so far to the left that anything else is right wing to you. I mean after 9 years of the Trudeau Liberals disaster, you want to give another 4 years to Carney, same cabinet that supported Trudeau Liberals policies. Are you sure it is not you that is delusional??
 

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Was this you? View attachment 430752 Here is an outdoor seatbelt for you. And this is a Liberal kit for you View attachment 430754



It is not supposed to. Aristotle said that the worst kind of inequality is to make unequal things equal. But you want the government to take care of you right? View attachment 430758

And here is the Liberal record and you want another four years of this nonsense View attachment 430759 and this View attachment 430761
You seem to be having some kind of aneurysm.
I'd see a doctor.
 

Frankfooter

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No they are not. Shows how little you understand. The thing is you are so far to the left that anything else is right wing to you. I mean after 9 years of the Trudeau Liberals disaster, you want to give another 4 years to Carney, same cabinet that supported Trudeau Liberals policies. Are you sure it is not you that is delusional??
I'm always entertained by right wingers who think their views are mainstream.

 

bver_hunter

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You are very confused. Libertarians are neither left or right. We are for small government, we are for the individual. We are against statism and collectivism. See, Hitler was far-right, Stalin was far-left, but both have one thing in common and that was authoritarianism. We are against that. I often see Conservatives think they are Libertarian when in reality they are not. There are so many fundamental differences, for example I am for legalized prostitution and legalized drugs. Conservatives are 100% against that (Liberals are also against legalized prostitution).
Listen you are the one that is confused as you claimed to be a Minarchist in the first place. Minarchism is defined as more of a right wing Libertarianism!!
By the way, it was the previous Harper Government that campaigned to outlaw Prostitution and Peter Mackay was the one who promised to enforce it. Thankfully, this Board still exists when the Canadians booted out Harper!!

Covid in itself was real, the problem was with the way the government dealt with it. I am also for vaccines, what I am against are mandates. What the government did is an example of McCarthyism. Do you know what that even means? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism <-- Here is a link about it. Read up. That is what the government did.

They shut down businesses and many people lost their livelihoods while the government prospered. Sorry, I do not consider the LCBO essential. The government is not our Grandma, you got parents they restrict your freedom for your own good. That kind of paternalism is very destructive. Look and take a look around you how things are different. People are angrier and meaner. The Charter of Freedom and Rights is not on condition, it is right that is guaranteed and the government stripped of that. All those politicians should be sent to jail for what they did.
Listen, it was not the Federal government that shut the businesses. We saw the infection rates skyrocketing in Ontario and only when push came to shove did the Ontario Government and all other Provinces did step up to shut down their businesses, with only the essential ones staying open. Look at the infection and death rates in a State Like Florida that only shut their economy for a limited time. They had more than twice the infection and death rates compared to the whole of Canada. Only the truckers who were crossing the borders were mandated in tandem with the USA Government to take the Covid vaccines. But with the far right conspiracy theories that are rife on the internet, we saw these FreeDumb ones refusing this mandate and then holding the citizens of Ottawa to ransom for weeks. Then they were the ones blockading the flow of Essentials including food and medicine across the border that was costing the Economy Billions of dollars on a daily basis!!

Here you go again with name calling. You are so immature, grow up. It is the Freedom Convoy and thanks to them we are free from covid mandates. Trudeau called them all kinds of names, White supremacists, far-right, a small fringe minority. He also claimed that they got most of their funding from the US which later proved to be all false. It is also silly how you keep on comparing what happened in the US to Canada. Sounds like you got Trump Derangement Syndrome, you know it is an actual term and it exists. Furthermore, the supreme court has ruled Trudeau's use of the Emergencies Act was Unconstitutional.


^^^^ What the truckers did was reaction to what the government did for two years. You are so concerned with blocking borders, but what about all the businesses that got shut down? What about all the bars and restaurants that only got to operate six months out of 24 months? Who will pay their bills? Oh yess that ridiculous CERB which was the primary cause of very high inflation.
Listen the name calling is not against those on this board like you do on a constant basis. If you do against a politicians, then who cares, as the righties dis it on a constant basis against those on the left of their spectrum like Trudeau, Biden and now even Carney!! I' more mature than you in my debates, so just stop all those rants of yours. You are the one suffering from the Trump Devotee Syndrome as you rush to defend this individual that a majority of Canadians now consider him to be an enemy of Canada in the manner in which he is engaging in a trade war with Canada as well as his hollow intentions to annex us!! This FreeDumb convoy leaders were found guilty of mischief in the manner in which they held the citizens of Ottawa to ransom. Many were temporarily laid off their jobs. No wonder that the majority of Canadians including even Doug ford supported the use of The Emergencies Act:

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But are you okay with the blockade of these goods and essentials that was costing the Canadians billions of dollars on a daily basis? We saw Pee Pee marching with several of the extreme right wingers rather than supporting the citizens of Ottawa who were begging of the Government to take more action against the FreeDumb convoy. By the way there was nothing in terms of "Freedom" with this convoy!! There were big donors on the right from the USA who funded these demonstrators. By the way you keep on being confused as to who shut down the businesses and seem to blame The Federal Government. The provincial Governments were responsible for it, and The Federal Government came to their aid when they were pleading for the funding of the Canadians during these trying times!!

You are right about this, but Trudeau is so much more for the rich. He is 100% an elitist and he is sneaky about it also. He keeps on saying how he is for the middle class when in reality he is an elitist for the rich, his actions prove it (remember never listen to words, look at their actions). Trudeau supports the Century Initiative a corporate lobby group that wants to have 100 million people by 2100. Why? First is to have never ending GDP growth and of course it helps the rich get richer. The result? A housing crisis. High food costs. The Century Initiative classifies itself as a charity, but its donations come from corporations and investors. They work with McKinsey, a consultant firm that tells the rich how to get more richer. Trudeau handed millions of dollars worth of government contracts to McKinsey and it was investigated btw.


^^^^ Canada is at an all time high for wealth inequality the likes we never seen before. Trudeau is squeezing the middle class for every dime with high taxes so he can give all the freebies to asylum seekers. I hear a big proportion of hotels in Niagara Falls has been taken by the Federal Government to house asylum seekers. Ford asked the Trudeau Liberals for millions of dollars to accommodate asylum seekers.

And I just saw CTV news, they said that a lot of Liberal supporters are the 65+ age group. No surprise to me. The ones with haves and the wealthy are most likely to support the Liberals. They usually own a home and very likely their mortgage is paid off. Trudeau's mass uncontrolled immigration ensure that the value of their homes keep on going up, they are sitting on a gold mine. They also benefit from the social programs while the young middle class get stuck with the bill with high taxes. Here are facts. As I said before, facts do not change because you are offended.

And one last thing, even though it is Carney the PM, he is still following the same Trudeau agenda. Trudeau is an MP and is very likely telling Carney what to do. Same agenda (as was seen in their latest budget), same cabinet that supported all of Trudeau's policies, and they got a POS garbage like Mark Wiseman who is an elitist.
Trudeau gave more tax breaks to the middle and lower income Canadians and taxed the elitists. This of course pissed off the Conservatives and they voted against everything such as Child care, Dental care, Construction of more affordable homes in co-operation with the Local councils and Provincial Governments. No wonder that Ford has distanced himself from Pee Pee, who wants to scrap all the above and instead come up with very hollow promises. Is Canada the only nation that was suffering from inflation, including high food prices, as well Climate Change impacts on the agriculture economy? At least. our inflation is now one of the lowest among the G7 Nations. If is was not for these tariff stupidities from Trump, we were forecasted to have the highest GDP growth rate among all the G7 nations.

By the way it is the 55+ age groups that have majority who support The Liberals by a wider margin than the 18 - 34 age group that support the Conservatives. The reason is crystal clear that the Harper Government raised the retirement age to 67 years and the intention was to increase it eventually to 70 years. Pee Pee who supported it is now backtracking and saying that he wont raise it!!

The Conservatives want to scrap the Dental care as well as Childcare. All this just to dish out more gold to the elitists and Corporations that control the Conservative Party!!
 

Valcazar

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No they are not. Shows how little you understand. The thing is you are so far to the left that anything else is right wing to you. I mean after 9 years of the Trudeau Liberals disaster, you want to give another 4 years to Carney, same cabinet that supported Trudeau Liberals policies. Are you sure it is not you that is delusional??
Why are you assuming I'm pro-Carney?
Typical Libertarian fragility about their identity.
 
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