Caving?
He just opened the China market to American trade with an opportunity to solidify (or not) in 90 days.
Carney taking on Trump
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He just opened the China market to American trade with an opportunity to solidify (or not) in 90 days.
That is exactly what he DIDN'T do.
Did you forget Trump's nervous laugh and "Never say never!" comment in response to Carney brushing him off and firmly stating no?
But you don't like slogans except when the ones the Liberals come up with jive with your brainwashing.
"slogans and substance"...let's hear this....go ahead...
Yes, when all you have are grade school slogans and no substance, while sucking up to the enemy like Pierre, then there is a problem.
You seriously think Trump was nervous? hahahaha
OMFG your Liberal brainwashing runs deep.
Here...if one day the brainwashing fades you can revisit what I'm about to tell you:
Trump preferred Carney because he's easier to control. Carney will not counter Trump with anything. He only says that he will but actually won't.
You were sucked in by a very effective Liberal propaganda tactic during their campaign.
The Chinese won't buy most of their stuff....what then? Remember they make less money. You think Ford F-150's will suddenly become the hottest seller? It's the USA that is addicted to cheap Chinese products. And rare earth's.
Now you think a 30% tax on all Chinese products coming in is a win?
the job is not done
we still have economically devastating tariffs applied against our country
we shall reserve full judgement until he gets those lifted
his entire campaign platform was built on the promise to take on Trump, get those tariffs lifted and restore Canadian economic growth
he needs to deliver on that promise and manage a growing constitutional crisis
if he can, he will likely get a full 4 year mandate
if he can not.... we will need a new election, very soon
Trump preferred Carney as soon as he knew Carney was going to win.
Before that he preferred Pierre because he thought he was going to win.
What Trump's preference is regardless is a non-factor.
What Canadians prefer is what's most important and they seem to have overwhelmingly preferred Carney over Pierre.
Hence the shellacking.
the us does not sell consumer products to the Chinese
They sell higher margin products
you really do not understand the trade dynamics do you ?
US-China tariff deal: What does it mean?
The agreement marks a major de-escalation of the trade war between the world's two biggest economies.
www.bbc.com
again you do not understand the trade dynamics or the objectives
trump will be happy not to export any vehicles if he decreases the imports by 4 to 5 million and have all those autos made in America
the Walmart shelves wont be bare as you predicted
like i explained to you Trump will adjust the tariffs to get the imports the US needs
still figure on waiting trump out and expecting everything to revert to the status quo ?
Lets hope Carney is a whole lot smarter than that and acts quickly to get those US tariffs on Canada lifted
the price tag will likely be supply management or (hopefully not) the auto sector
meanwhile China still has a tariff on Canadian Canola in response to the liberals protecting a not existent Canadian EV industry
this is a big issue for SASK and Alberta
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well it might be best if she does not create any more stupid liberals
If Trump was at a poker table together with you and you had four aces in your hand, and he announced he had royal Flush, you would believe him and fold.
He folded. All they have is a temp ceasefire and a starting framework. It will take a long time to sort it out. Meanwhile the 30% tax on American consumers, and 10% from other nations continues.the us does not sell consumer products to the Chinese
They sell higher margin products
you really do not understand the trade dynamics do you ?
View attachment 438150US-China tariff deal: What does it mean?
The agreement marks a major de-escalation of the trade war between the world's two biggest economies.
again you do not understand the trade dynamics or the objectives
trump will be happy not to export any vehicles if he decreases the imports by 4 to 5 million and have all those autos made in America
the Walmart shelves wont be bare as you predicted
like i explained to you Trump will adjust the tariffs to get the imports the US needs
still figure on waiting trump out and expecting everything to revert to the status quo ?
Lets hope Carney is a whole lot smarter than that and acts quickly to get those US tariffs on Canada lifted
the price tag will likely be supply management or (hopefully not) the auto sector
meanwhile China still has a tariff on Canadian Canola in response to the liberals protecting a not existent Canadian EV industry
this is a big issue for SASK and Alberta
I thought you hated taxes. I guess you just don't know one when you see it.
That 30% in a recession will still kill sales and e commerce small business, as well as reduce retail sales. With no incentive to businesses to do anything but close or wait it out.
this is not a poker game
there is a whole lot more at stake for Canada here
your entire premise is based on other countries banding together and waiting trump out, thus saving Canada
and that is simply not going to happen and it is not happening
countries act in their own best interest
you obviously have not given any serious thought to the auto import issue
nor you have given any serious thought to what China buys from the US
do you honestly think trump never gave a thought to how other countries would react to tariffs ?
do you honestly think none, not a one of trumps economic advisors asked how the USA would get the imports it needs?
you have allowed your emotions to cloud your judgement
trumps a prick, no question, but do not underestimate him because you do not like him
trump folded with China.
trump folded with Canada and Mexico.
Now he thinks he can tariff movies.
Why do anything else besides watch him make a fool of himself and the US?
Dude, you don't get we supply essential materials and cheaper manufacturing to the USA. The want our oil, electricity, lumber, paper products, parts, tourism, and hundreds of other things. It will always be cheaper for business to buy from us.
The auto manufacturers are going to wait this out. They are not going to build new parts plants in ten years that will cost more to produce what they need than wait 3 and get business as usual.
They need our cheap electricity or it will cost more. And that also drives up the price of aluminum. We supply the Midwest with their gas, and supply the petroleum for products the USA makes. We supply their Toilet paper pulp. We keep some tourism places afloat that operate seasonally.
Trump is now not just blinking, but showing huge cracks. They chased the Chinese down, not the other way around.
Chicken!
you do not have a clue
that is a ridiculous child's response
i do not like taxes, even less when they are wasted
that is irrelevant , Trump did not ask for my opinion on taxation
he is going to adjust the tariffs until he gets the behaviour / concessions from the trading partners he seeks, sign deals and then perhaps keep a baseline tariff intact for each country
meanwhile he wants to reduce US corporate / income taxes to offset the impact of tariff taxes
it might / might not work , but he is going to forge ahead
there will be a re-alignment of trade with the US,
this is going to change and this is undeniable and will not revert back to the status quo as you think
the 30% will likely come down when China imprisons/ liquidates the lot behind the fentanyl racket
the US stock market roared back to life with this news
it is the best discounting / indicator of future expectations
its not perfect but it certainly does not agree with you
Dude
you expect all counties to band together in opposition to Trump and that is simply not going to happen
Trump loves to use leverage and he has leverage
he is going to incentivize them to build in the USA as per the deals he is making / going to make
we might be able to save our our share the auto sector or a chunk of it , but not without giving something up
i.e. supply management
you are beyond delusional and completely mis-understanding what is occurring here
like it or not there will be significant re-alignment of trade
and we will get screwed if we try to wait Trump out
