I'm an hour type of guy, Ritche plus I would have to buy a thesaurus, a dictionary and have Google ready to go to keep up with the young lady.
Carney taking on Trump
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I don't think he did.
All he said is that he said that to Trump afterwards...did he?
That is the best cope yet that I have seen! lmfao.
Carney was quiet because it was beneath his intellect to engage with Trump in that manner.
All Trump wants in a big show in the white house in front of the press the likes of which we saw with Zelensky.
Carney sat there looking like a dad watching his special needs child, while a slouched over Trump incoherently rambled for 45 minutes.
Alone.
Being denied the tough guy image he loves to put on.
Very well done by Carney, while treating Trump's 51st state comment in an offhand manner to which the only response Trump could muster was a nervous "Never say never!!". lmfao.
He said that right in the press conference.
Even Trump chuckled nervously because he knew that line from Carney was a good one.
He sat there because he doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds.
The sooner you come to terms with that, the sooner you'll stop looking so naive and foolish thinking Carney has any power over Trump at all. That's why Trump preferred him over Poilievre.
btw Carney didn't tell Trump to stop referring to Canada as the 51st state. He only said he told him that afterwards in private. Yeah sure.
You were played...again.
He did not say that. He only told a story about real estate and how Canada is not a property for sale. Even though no one offered to buy Canada.
Show us a quote where he told Trump not to refer to Canada as the 51st state. I haven't searched myself but I don't recall hearing that.
Carney only mentioned it afterwards in the press conference only he was at.
If I'm wrong I'll accept that I missed it.
Its not for sale is both a political and economic statement.
Without "buying" Canada in some way, Canada cannot be owned and without owning Canada it cannot be the 51st state.
He didn't say much because he did not have to.
Trump made himself look foolish without Carney opening his mouth and when he did open his mouth it was to put Trump in his place.
All without Trump even realizing it.
That was a job well done by Carney.
There is no deal signed
There is no deal signed
There is no deal signed
There is a framework announced with a few carve outs for things like British Luxury vehicles(up to 100,000 vehicles before the tariff kicks in, the same amount they ship anyway) while the 10% remains on all goods. And a promise to look into buying more US beef. All other agricultural products banned before are still banned. Total optimistically is about 5 billion in trade.
This is a tiny deal, a rounding error compared to USMCA.
That's it. Stop lying.
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gee
you say there is no deal but everyone else says there is a deal
US and UK agree deal slashing Trump tariffs on cars and metals
It will leave a 10% import tax on most goods shipped from the UK to the US.
www.bbc.com
U.S.-U.K. Trade Deal to Build on Close Ties but Leave Some Tariffs in Place
U.S. announces trade deal with U.K.; president says he will appoint Jeanine Pirro as interim U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C.
Trump signs a trade deal with the U.K. and the House votes on renaming the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America
and then you go and contraDICK yourself
look
the UK got a deal
there will be more deals to come as other countries look to act in their own interest
your wait them out strategy is a failure
you are correct
at no point has a monetary offer been made
we could possibly have called his bluff indicating the price was a non-negotiable $5 MM or $10 MM US for each man woman and child and ask to exclude Baffin Island from the deal and reserve that land for the socialist to create a commune
Your own articles state it will have no meaningful change and the 10% tariff remainsgee
you say there is no deal but everyone else says there is a deal
US and UK agree deal slashing Trump tariffs on cars and metalsUS and UK agree deal slashing Trump tariffs on cars and metals
It will leave a 10% import tax on most goods shipped from the UK to the US.
U.S.-U.K. Trade Deal to Build on Close Ties but Leave Some Tariffs in Place
U.S. announces trade deal with U.KU.S. announces trade deal with U.K.; president says he will appoint Jeanine Pirro as interim U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C.
Trump signs a trade deal with the U.K. and the House votes on renaming the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Americawww.nbcnews.com
and then you go and contraDICK yourself
look
the UK got a deal
there will be more deals to come as other countries look to act in their own interest
your wait them out strategy is a failure
That's a deal?
Really?
You still haven't figured out what this is really about, and how Trump is failing, have you?
you ignore what you do not want to hear
and you let your emotions cloud your judgement
and you seem only concerned with your own position
there are far too many Canadian jobs and futures at risk to take such a selfish position
you foolishly think the international community is going to act in unison ignore Trump and save Canada
This is not union driven collective bargaining
and the UK just showed you each nation will act in its own best interest
Next up, perhaps India, Japan, perhaps Mexico, Brazil, Argentina , all of whom will happily claim some of Canada's share of the US import market
here chew on this
If Canada waits 18 months there will be nothing left of the US import market that has not been allocated to other nation in trade deals
my guess is Trump would prefer to leave China isolated and the last one without a deal, however he will do do deals with those who are willing
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Troll reply.
Its the law and international opinion.
Its like complaining that amazon has a trade surplus because they make a profit so they should be destroyed.
Your guess is wrong. He has one goal. To generate enough income to justify his tax cut bill for the wealthy in the reconciliation process. That's what DOGE was, and what this is. That's it. Nothing else.
doge is about unsustainable deficits and debt
the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt
He is trying to shrink the cost of govt to avoid a fast approaching govt insolvency
you are risk adverse, you should understand this, but do not as you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
the end game of the trade wars and the tax relief are to drive long term US economic growth
a stronger economy will generate higher tax revenue
whether the trade wars and the tax relief will accomplish this goal remains to be seen
China is the real economic threat to the US and he wants to reset the trade in balance
pretending there is one simple goal here is naive as you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
it is also exceptionally naive to pretend Canada can afford to wait him out
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Lol. No it isn't. All this is to try to appease the Freedom Caucus deficit hawks so they will pass the tax bill in September. Unless Trump can either increase revenue or decrease spending they won't allow him to raise the deficit.
If it was about the deficit they why add about 120 billion to the Military budget when they have NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. And now it appears DOGE is a complete failure. There original target was 2 trillion saving, then 1 Trillion, then 150 billion. And now because of hire banks to essential personel as contractors they are losing more.
So he needs tariffs because it's a great sales tax. And that is all it is. Once he gets the bill passed he will cut the big deals, declare victory, and lose at the midterms. Leaving the Democrats to deal with a budget deficit due to tax cuts without future tariff revenue.
The whole point being to do two things. One tax cuts for corporations, and two, create a crisis so they cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security first by means testing, second by reducing services to make it harder to access, and finally by saying it's a bad program.
And then they try to play shit off on the Democrats when they make hard choices. That's what is going on.
