Carney taking on Trump

[silentkisser]

more blither from a blithering fool playing with dolls , while pulling his string
now pay attention
you are an ideologue who is incapable of understanding the economic implications of policy
you blind devotion to the economic disaster mannequin, empty suit Justin Trudeau has proven this for over a decade

like I said '' the last original thought you had was as a child'

LOL

Pay attention, like anyone respects your opinion. You're just a Chatty Cathy, pull the string and hear the bullshit. If you haven't noticed, I really don't give a flying fuck what you think. I already know. It doesn't change, and probably hasn't evolved much over the past 20 years...well, maybe Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate might have influenced you a bit. So, continue to hurl insults and demean others, if that's what it takes to make you feel like a big man. But, your talking points are stale and have aged as well as Trump....who claims to be 6'3 and 250LBS....Which we all know is just another lie.

 

[JohnLarue]

Lol. No it isn't. All this is to try to appease the Freedom Caucus deficit hawks so they will pass the tax bill in September. Unless Trump can either increase revenue or decrease spending they won't allow him to raise the deficit.

If it was about the deficit they why add about 120 billion to the Military budget when they have NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. And now it appears DOGE is a complete failure. There original target was 2 trillion saving, then 1 Trillion, then 150 billion. And now because of hire banks to essential personel as contractors they are losing more.

So he needs tariffs because it's a great sales tax. And that is all it is. Once he gets the bill passed he will cut the big deals, declare victory, and lose at the midterms. Leaving the Democrats to deal with a budget deficit due to tax cuts without future tariff revenue.

The whole point being to do two things. One tax cuts for corporations, and two, create a crisis so they cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security first by means testing, second by reducing services to make it harder to access, and finally by saying it's a bad program.

And then they try to play shit off on the Democrats when they make hard choices. That's what is going on.

like i said
you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
,
i find simply amazing that people will manage their financial affairs prudently and responsibly (or so you claim)
yet pretend the same principles do not apply to govt

doge is about unsustainable deficits and debt

the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

He is trying to shrink the cost of govt to avoid a fast approaching govt insolvency


pretending there is one simple goal here is naive as you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
it is also exceptionally naive to pretend Canada can afford to wait him out

 

[JohnLarue]

LOL

Pay attention, like anyone respects your opinion. You're just a Chatty Cathy, pull the string and hear the bullshit. If you haven't noticed, I really don't give a flying fuck what you think

.

then get lost
no one forces you to read my posts
yet you keep coming back to be shown for the fool you are...........over and over and over again

[

I already know. It doesn't change, and probably hasn't evolved much over the past 20 years...well, maybe Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate might have influenced you a bit. So, continue to hurl insults and demean others, if that's what it takes to make you feel like a big man.

again zero substance, just blithering nonsense from you
stick to the facts
better yet, get lost

But, your talking points are stale and have aged as well as Trump....who claims to be 6'3 and 250LBS....Which we all know is just another lie.

????
what does Trumps height and/ or weight have to do with anything?
you have the intellect of a spoiled teenage girl

Now pay attention:
start acting like an adult and make fact based adult level arguments that are on point

 

[Frankfooter]

doge is about unsustainable deficits and debt

DOGE cost americans and didn't save them anything.
It was a total failure which is why Elon abandoned it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1911401612913803725

 

[silentkisser]

.

then get lost
no one forces you to read my posts
yet you keep coming back to be shown for the fool you are...........over and over and over again

[

again zero substance, just blithering nonsense from you
stick to the facts
better yet, get lost



????
what does Trumps height and/ or weight have to do with anything?
you have the intellect of a spoiled teenage girl

Now pay attention:
start acting like an adult and make fact based adult level arguments that are on point

Just can't help yourself, I guess.

 

[Butler1000]

like i said
you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
,
i find simply amazing that people will manage their financial affairs prudently and responsibly (or so you claim)
yet pretend the same principles do not apply to govt

doge is about unsustainable deficits and debt

the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

He is trying to shrink the cost of govt to avoid a fast approaching govt insolvency


pretending there is one simple goal here is naive as you allow your emotions to cloud your judgement
it is also exceptionally naive to pretend Canada can afford to wait him out

Then DOGE is a big fat fail. With its so called non head having to leave in disgrace.

Now watch as the rest I said comes to fruition.

 

[JohnLarue]

Then DOGE is a big fat fail. With its so called non head having to leave in disgrace.

for a clown who claims to be risk adverse and one who controls his spending you have a strange way of viewing government excess

are you that stunned that you can not realise the implications of not realising the required savings

do you need help understanding the real world frightening implications and of the following 2 facts ?

• the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
• currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

or will you default to your usual habit of ignoring what you do not like to confront?
go ahead and stick your head in the sand ..... again

Now watch as the rest I said comes to fruition.

i do not think so
your head in the sand premise is based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

right or wrong, Trump was furious with Crista Freeland for stalling , including irrelevant gender , DEI restrictions and teaming with Mexico during the last trade talks
recall how that came within a day or 2 of almost getting Canada cut out of the deal

Trump is many things, many of which are nasty and very repulsive, however he is not stupid
each nation is being delt with separately

 

[Butler1000]

for a clown who claims to be risk adverse and one who controls his spending you have a strange way of viewing government excess

are that stunned that you can not realise the implications of not realising the required savings

do you need help understanding the real world frightening implications and of the following 2 facts ?

• the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
• currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

or will you default to your usual habit of ignoring what you do not like to confront?
go ahead and stick your head in the sand ..... again



i do not think so
your head in the sand premise is based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

right or wrong, Trump was furious with Crista Freeland for stalling , including irrelevant gender , DEI restrictions and teaming with Mexico during the last trade talks
recall how that came within a day or 2 of almost getting Canada cut out of the deal

Trump is many thing many of which are nasty and very repulsive, however he is not stupid
each nation is being delt with separately

Lol. And DOGE did nothing to mitigate it. NOTHING.

So stating the obvious while watching yer boy Trump do NOTHING and trying to allude it's something. That's all you got? That's your point.

So weak.......

And meanwhile on trade they are chasing after China to Switzerland uninvited to try to START trade talks.

Even weaker.

 

[imaan2k]

Canada has cosplayed as a nation for far too long. That's the topic that's been avoided throughout this thread America will be fine.

 

[richaceg]

Lol. And DOGE did nothing to mitigate it. NOTHING.

So stating the obvious while watching yer boy Trump do NOTHING and trying to allude it's something. That's all you got? That's your point.

So weak.......

And meanwhile on trade they are chasing after China to Switzerland uninvited to try to START trade talks.

Even weaker.

as oppose to keep the USAID faucet flowing? you really believe DOGE didn't just save the US a lot of funds cutting USAID? that is an odd take..lol.

 

[Frankfooter]

for a clown who claims to be risk adverse and one who controls his spending you have a strange way of viewing government excess

are you that stunned that you can not realise the implications of not realising the required savings

do you need help understanding the real world frightening implications and of the following 2 facts ?

• the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
• currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

or will you default to your usual habit of ignoring what you do not like to confront?
go ahead and stick your head in the sand ..... again



i do not think so
your head in the sand premise is based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

right or wrong, Trump was furious with Crista Freeland for stalling , including irrelevant gender , DEI restrictions and teaming with Mexico during the last trade talks
recall how that came within a day or 2 of almost getting Canada cut out of the deal

Trump is many thing many of which are nasty and very repulsive, however he is not stupid
each nation is being delt with separately

Right wingers are such easy marks.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920901868261118418

 

[Butler1000]

as oppose to keep the USAID faucet flowing? you really believe DOGE didn't just save the US a lot of funds cutting USAID? that is an odd take..lol.

They cancelled nothing. It was TRANSFERED TO STATE. All that means is all the clansdine ops they did under it will continue. And a few examples were cut. The CIA relies on USAID too much as a way to infiltrate nations to get rid of it. And to pay off informants, bribe officials and other dirty work.

So much dark money flows through it, now Rubio gets a say. That is all that happened there. Total cuts appear to be about 60 billion. Do you realize just how small that is? Sure, he cut the programs that actually do good work, but bets all the dirty work money will continue.

Great job!

 

[JohnLarue]

Lol. And DOGE did nothing to mitigate it. NOTHING.

So stating the obvious while watching yer boy Trump do NOTHING and trying to allude it's something. That's all you got? That's your point.

So weak.......

again you let you emotions foul your judgement
Trump is not my boy
I have been Crystal clear, he is a mean-spirited vindictive prick, and i had preferred he did not even run again
and that was before he threatened economic Armageddon on my country

your emotional driven response clearly indicates you are unable to view positions logically or objectively
there is great risk to our country here from both an economic and political unity perspective
Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent

And meanwhile on trade they are chasing after China to Switzerland uninvited to try to START trade talks.

Even weaker.

[/QUOTE]


what is weak and foolish is your head in the sand premise based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

a fool and his wealth are soon separated

 

[Butler1000]

again you let you emotions foul your judgement
Trump is not my boy
I have been Crystal clear, he is a mean-spirited vindictive prick, and i had preferred he did not even run again
and that was before he threatened economic Armageddon on my country

your emotional driven response clearly indicates you are unable to view positions logically or objectively
there is great risk to our country here from both an economic and political unity perspective
Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent

what is weak and foolish is your head in the sand premise based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

a fool and his wealth are soon separated
[/QUOTE]

You are agreeing with many if his policies. And have defended them.

Do you really think they can broker 90 deals in 90 days? Really?

Ships stopped arriving this week. Tops the companies have 5-7 weeks of full shelves. Then it starts. Just in time for the 2nd quarter report showing recession. Along with Student loan and Mortgage call ins, and the drop in tourism.

And most of our tariffs are paused.

Stop panicking Chicken Little.

 

[Frankfooter]

again you let you emotions foul your judgement
Trump is not my boy
I have been Crystal clear, he is a mean-spirited vindictive prick, and i had preferred he did not even run again
and that was before he threatened economic Armageddon on my country

your emotional driven response clearly indicates you are unable to view positions logically or objectively
there is great risk to our country here from both an economic and political unity perspective
Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent




what is weak and foolish is your head in the sand premise based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

a fool and his wealth are soon separated

Sure, you hate him but back everything he does including the DOGE failure, tariffs and attacks on basic rights.

 

[Butler1000]

for a clown who claims to be risk adverse and one who controls his spending you have a strange way of viewing government excess

are you that stunned that you can not realise the implications of not realising the required savings

do you need help understanding the real world frightening implications and of the following 2 facts ?

• the debt the US government has accumulated in its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under the status quo
• currently 20% of all US govt revenue goes to interest payments on its unsustainable debt

or will you default to your usual habit of ignoring what you do not like to confront?
go ahead and stick your head in the sand ..... again



i do not think so
your head in the sand premise is based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

right or wrong, Trump was furious with Crista Freeland for stalling , including irrelevant gender , DEI restrictions and teaming with Mexico during the last trade talks
recall how that came within a day or 2 of almost getting Canada cut out of the deal

Trump is many thing many of which are nasty and very repulsive, however he is not stupid
each nation is being delt with separately

As I said. Medicaid cuts coming. Social Security and Medicare next.

This isn't about trade, or even deficits. It's about redirected tax money to rich people.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

LOL

Pay attention, like anyone respects your opinion. You're just a Chatty Cathy, pull the string and hear the bullshit. If you haven't noticed, I really don't give a flying fuck what you think. I already know. It doesn't change, and probably hasn't evolved much over the past 20 years...well, maybe Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate might have influenced you a bit. So, continue to hurl insults and demean others, if that's what it takes to make you feel like a big man. But, your talking points are stale and have aged as well as Trump....who claims to be 6'3 and 250LBS....Which we all know is just another lie.

Yet another person whose conversation with John Larue has gone downhill as usual. lmfao.

 

[The Oracle]

But, your talking points are stale and have aged as well as Trump....who claims to be 6'3 and 250LBS....Which we all know is just another lie.

''Per the report, Trump’s height and weight are 75 inches and 224 pounds, respectively. Scans of several body systems—including the eyes, ears, neck, throat, and heart—came back normal.''

Trump's Medical Results: What We Learned From His Physical

Trump attended a medical appointment on Friday—the first physical of his second presidential term.

time.com

You would be in error...I'm sure you will correct your mistake.

 

[JohnLarue]

You are agreeing with many if his policies. And have defended them.

you try to cancel others by trying to associate them with Trump and you do this without thinking or evaluating logically

some of his policies i have supported long before he entered politics
i am not going to abandon principles simply because an obnoxious egomaniac makes a claim on them

• smaller govt
• financial responsibility
• secure boarders
• intelligent and targeted immigration based on meeting in demand skills
• merit should not be subordinate to quotas
• crime reduction
• free enterprise
• personal freedoms
• and i am fundamentally opposed to many left leaning foolishness
• the climate change propaganda / net zero agenda is insanity and has/ will cause much harm (Canadian unity has been put at risk by this nonsense)

obviously i do not agree with his tariff actions against Canada. He should honour the USMCA deal he signed
he makes some outrages claims, his communication style is annoying and very often ambiguous
and he can be nasty, vindictive and mean spirited
he is bully who thinks nothing of hurting others and he values loyalty to his ego by others above integrity
he is also very divisive and i knew the political polarization in the US would not improve if he ran again
his decision to run again was out of my control and frankly the democrats going down the failed socialism road scared me more

Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent

Do you really think they can broker 90 deals in 90 days? Really?

he loves to do deals, and needs to be able to claim a win
he does not need to do 90 deals
the US economy is 2/3 to 3/4 internally generated
they could likely secure access to most of their import needs with 6 to 10 deals , maybe a few more and he likely prefers fewer

now you should think about that very carefully
that means some countries will get shut out of the US market
there is a huge risk Canada could be left without a chair when the music stops if we were to follow your damn fool strategy of waiting him out

Ships stopped arriving this week. Tops the companies have 5-7 weeks of full shelves. Then it starts. Just in time for the 2nd quarter report showing recession. Along with Student loan and Mortgage call ins, and the drop in tourism.

companies increased there inventories prior to the tariffs and he will endure some political pressure for a while
his real political deadline is the period leading up to the midterms in Nov 2026 , but he is not going to wait that long

your emotional disgust likely ensure that you think his is stupid
he does not drink and reportedly works 18 hours a day
he is many things, many of which are pretty repulsive, but he is not stupid

Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent

And most of our tariffs are paused.

CTV National News: The toll of Trump's tariffs on Canadian jobs

A new jobs report revealed the toll Trump's tariffs are having on the Canadian labour market, with manufacturing taking a big hit. John Vennavally-Rao reports.

www.ctvnews.ca

CTV National News: The toll of Trump's tariffs on Canadian jobs

A new jobs report revealed the toll Trump's tariffs are having on the Canadian labour market, with manufacturing taking a big hit.

wake up

Stop panicking Chicken Little.

stop being naive

what is weak and foolish is your head in the sand premise based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

a fool and his wealth are soon separated

 

[Butler1000]

you are the poster boy for what is wrong with the left
you try to cancel others by trying to associate them with Trump without thinking or evaluating logically

i am not going to abandon principles simply because an obnoxious egomaniac makes a claim on them
some of his policies i have supported long before he entered politics

• smaller govt
• secure boarders
• crime reduction
• free enterprise
• and i am fundamentally opposed to many left leaning foolishness
• the climate change/ net zero propaganda is insanity

obviously i do not agree with his tariff actions against Canada. He should honour the USMCA deal he signed
he makes some outrages claims, his communication style is annoying and very often ambiguous
and he can be nasty, vindictive and mean spirited
he is bully who thinks nothing of hurting others and he values loyalty to his ego by others above integrity
he is also vey divisive and i knew the political polarization in the US would not improve if he ran again
his decision to run again was out of my control and frankly the democrats going down the failed socialism road scared me more

Many a fool has lost big by underestimating an opponent because the fool is emotionally disgusted by the opponent



he does not need to do 90 deals
the US economy is 2/3 internally generated
the could likely secure access to most of their import needs with 6 to 10 deals , maybe a few more and he likely prefers fewer

now you should think about that very carefully
that means some countries will get shut out of the US market
there is a huge risk Canada could be left without a chair when the music stops if we were to follow your damn fool strategy of waiting him out



companies increased there inventories prior to the tariffs and he will endure some political pressure for a while
his real political deadline is the period leading up to the midterms in Nov 2026 , but he is not going to wait that long


you likely thinking his is stupid
he is many things, some of which are pretty repulsive, but he is not stupid

CTV National News: The toll of Trump's tariffs on Canadian jobs

A new jobs report revealed the toll Trump's tariffs are having on the Canadian labour market, with manufacturing taking a big hit. John Vennavally-Rao reports.

www.ctvnews.ca

wake up


stop being naive

what is weak and foolish is your head in the sand premise based upon a fictious believe the trading nations of the world will abandon their own individual interests and seek collective bargaining with the most sought after export market in the world , the US

a fool and his wealth are soon separated

And in a recession that 2/3 economy you keep going about won't be that, will it. It's already starting in the tourism sector. Once the student loan, mortgage protections drop in July it will be less. Layoffs are rising, less, empty shelves, less. All affecting even more sectors nation wide. Service industry sectors will drop. It will snowball.

Into a real stock price correction. Consumer confidence drop, and the spiral will continue. The recession was always coming. But it's going to get a whole lot worse.