The liberals did reduce taxes on the middle class and I think it was DoFo who lowered corporate taxes as he started running deficits.
Income taxes in Canada and the US used to be way higher for the rich.
Carney's Canada: Regressives Betraying Generations
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Income taxes in Canada and the US used to be way higher for the rich.
no he said he would slow the growth
the size of the federal govt (headcount) increased by 40% under the moron
govt headcount needs to be reduced by approx 30 to 40%
the liberals ran ever growing deficits for a decade
there will always be a crisis , if not the liberals will create one
and because of money printing there will always be inflation
continued money printing / continued deficits has to stop
you simpleton,
the liberals inflation has already wreaked them
what part of 1/2 of Canadian families $200 away from insolvency do you not understand?
what part of record visits to the food bank do you not understand?
that is because you are a fool
you increase investment the private sector by removing regulations that discourage investment i.e. Bill C-69
the past years proves otherwise
please start to pay attention
govt needs to get out of the way
no he said he would slow the growth
the size of the federal govt (headcount) increased by 40% under the moron
govt headcount needs to be reduced by approx 30 to 40%
it is a terrible plan as he is going to increase carbon taxes on industry , which will drive investment out of the country
he is also going to print money which will re-ignite inflation
Yes, be very afraid. Dark, dark days ahead.MARCO NAVARRO-GÉNIE
APR 27, 2025
In politics, progress ought to mean advancement toward a better future. Yet under the new stewardship of Mark Carney, Canada's so-called progressive movement has completed its transformation into a regressive machine — an apparatus of fear, debt, and gerontocratic self-interest.
It didn't begin with Carney. It started with Trudeau.
In 2015, Justin Trudeau floated to power on a tide of youthful exuberance. Young Canadians, seduced by his promises of open government, modest deficits, affordable housing, gender equality, proportional representation, and a green economy, delivered him a resounding mandate. Trudeau, a man whose policy experience was thinner than his tattoos, embodied the "new politics" of feeling over thinking.
The reality was more sordid. Trudeau botched everything except legalized pot. Deficits were neither modest nor temporary. Housing grew more expensive, not more affordable. Proportional representation was thrown under the campaign bus. Consultation became diktats to provinces. The green economy became a racket for insiders and consultants. Instead of opening the halls of power, Trudeau stuffed them with lobbyists, activists, and corporate grifters.
By 2019, the youthful voters he once inspired were older, saddled with higher rents, stagnant wages, and ballooning student debts. Their political energy had curdled into distrust. His party hemorrhaged support. Only the manufactured terror of COVID-19 postponed his reckoning.
The Great Betrayal: Fear as Governance
When the pandemic prolonged, Trudeau fabricated a new lease on political life. Fear became governance. The government, like many across the West, ordered mass lockdowns that sacrificed the livelihoods, educations, and mental health of the young to cocoon the elderly. Canada's response was among the most hysterical: lockdowns extended into 2022, school closures surpassed OECD averages, and border controls strangled commerce.
The greatest economic victims of these policies were the young. According to Statistics Canada, by late 2021, youth unemployment (ages 15–24) had soared to 14.5%, more than double the national average. Simultaneously, federal spending skyrocketed. The Fraser Institute estimates the federal debt ballooned from $619 billion in 2015 to $1.2 trillion by 2023, nearly doubling in less than a decade.
Today, every Canadian under 30 carries an additional $30,000 share of federal debt thanks to "modest deficits."
The End of Trudeau, The Rise of the Boomer Technocrats
By 2025, Trudeau was no longer salvageable. His party, desperate and cornered, reluctantly threw him overboard. Yet rather than pivoting toward renewal, the Liberals enthroned a figure representing everything Canadians had once sought to leave behind: Mark Carney and his radical green agenda.
Carney, a globalist banker who spent more of his career abroad than in Canada, is at odds with his country's political culture. He is stiff where Trudeau was manic, dour where Trudeau was exuberant, and hostile to scrutiny where Trudeau at least pretended at openness. Carney cannot speak fluent French. He cannot summon charisma. But he is fluent in the language of elite technocracy, globalese, and the bureaucratese of panels, frameworks, and steering committees.
He is the face of regression, not progress.
The Boomer Base: Fearful and Entitled
Polls confirm the shift. According to an Angus Reid recent survey (April 2025), Carney's strongest support lies among Canadians over 55 — the demographic that profited most from the past three decades' housing inflation and stock market booms. In the same survey, 68% of Gen Z and Millennials said the Liberals had "betrayed" their economic interests, while 27% of Boomers agreed.
In fact, among voters over 65, the Liberals under Carney enjoy a modest lead over the Conservatives, even as they hemorrhage support among every younger cohort.
The Regressive Party
The Liberals are no longer a "progressive" party in any meaningful sense. They are a party of fearful cranks: terrified of change, addicted to spending, suspicious of free speech, and hostile to national self-reliance. They mortgage the young's future to buy the old's comfort.
Federal debt: Up nearly 100% in a decade.
Federal spending: Expanded by 83% from 2015 to 2023.
GDP per capita: Stagnated. Canada's GDP per capita grew at just 0.3% annually post-2015, the worst among G7 nations.
Housing prices: Doubled from 2015 to 2023; home ownership among Canadians under 40 fell below 35%.
Food inflation: Reached 10% annually in 2022–2023, according to the University of Guelph’s Food Price Report.
Homelessness: Exploded, with tent cities now regular features even in mid-sized Canadian cities like Kitchener, Windsor, and Halifax.
Meanwhile, Ottawa under Trudeau and now Carney presided over cultural and civilizational decay:
Over 200 churches and synagogues have been vandalized or burned since 2021.
Free speech corroded; journalists bought off through $600 million in media bailouts.
Judicial systems paralyzed; court backlogs doubled. Revolving doors for dangerous criminals.
According to Statistics Canada, violent crime rates rose by 32% between 2015 and 2023.
Assisted suicide normalized: over 13,000 deaths by MAiD in 2022 alone, a grim global record.
The Unions and the Elites
Large unions continue to back the Liberals, but these are not unions of productive workers. They are the bloated syndicates of teachers, bureaucrats, and academics. Their leaders wave Soviet flags at parades, genuflect to foreign dictators, and back policies that mutilate children in the name of "gender affirmation." They speak neither for the productive classes nor for the working poor. They are an aristocracy of mediocrity, a leisure class on the taxpayer's back.
The productive private-sector worker — the engineer, the welder, the small business owner — finds no voice in Carney's Canada. They are taxed, regulated, and insulted. Their dreams are choked by layers of "progressive" red tape.
The Other Canada: Rebellion and Renewal
The alternative is emerging as a rough, imperfect political realignment: a coalition of the dispossessed, the productive, the young, and the brave. Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives now lead among voters under 40 — a stunning reversal of traditional patterns. A Leger poll from March 2025 found that 46% of Canadians aged 18–34 would vote Conservative, compared to just 23% Liberal.
This is not nostalgia. It is rebellion. It is the righteous hope of punishing a corrupt aristocracy and restoring promises to a generation betrayed.
The Choice Before Us
Canada stands at a fork in the road.
One path leads deeper into poorly managed decline, anti-human, anti-industry environmental ideology, debt slavery, and cultural disintegration under the regressive Liberals and their boomer technocrats.
The other leads toward painful but necessary renewal: freeing markets, freeing speech, ending the culture of fear, and dismantling the bureaucratic state that feasts upon the young and productive.
The choice is stark. The clock is ticking.
And no amount of tampons in men’s bathrooms will hide the stench of national decay.
It is so grotesque an inversion that history seems to offer no parallel: the instinct to shield and uplift the next generation has been a sacred duty, the defining trait of healthy cultures, is now pushed aside. The Trudeau heritage is Carney’s Canada, where the natural order has been perversely inverted. The old demand the sacrifice of future generations, and call it Canada's strength.
Mark Carney's Canada: Regressives Betraying Generations
They promised hope and delivered fear. They promised equality and built an empire of debt. Under Carney, Canada's progressives have become a regressive force clinging to power at any cost.mnghaultain.substack.com
Wow, all you can think about is Canada being drawers of of water and hewers of wood. Thats it. Kinda like Congo without child labour ..or are you also suggesting we use child labor ?
On the personal side, rates for the high end weren't higher at least back 25 plus years. So, your "restore" comment is for the middle class reduction the Liberals gave in 2001? I am sure that will be helpful. And as I recall that tax change actually hurt the higher income earners as the personal exemptions moved from deductions to credits at the lower tax rate, so restoring those would benefit the high income earners. You aren't convincing me you know what you are talking about. But that's nothing new.
Taxes were high indeed. When America was great
Ironic but true. Trump does not want any of that; to the contrary. So, Trump does not want to make America great again. Trump wants to make America white again. It should be MAWA.
Wholeheartedly agree.MARCO NAVARRO-GÉNIE
APR 27, 2025
In politics, progress ought to mean advancement toward a better future. Yet under the new stewardship of Mark Carney, Canada's so-called progressive movement has completed its transformation into a regressive machine — an apparatus of fear, debt, and gerontocratic self-interest.
It didn't begin with Carney. It started with Trudeau.
In 2015, Justin Trudeau floated to power on a tide of youthful exuberance. Young Canadians, seduced by his promises of open government, modest deficits, affordable housing, gender equality, proportional representation, and a green economy, delivered him a resounding mandate. Trudeau, a man whose policy experience was thinner than his tattoos, embodied the "new politics" of feeling over thinking.
The reality was more sordid. Trudeau botched everything except legalized pot. Deficits were neither modest nor temporary. Housing grew more expensive, not more affordable. Proportional representation was thrown under the campaign bus. Consultation became diktats to provinces. The green economy became a racket for insiders and consultants. Instead of opening the halls of power, Trudeau stuffed them with lobbyists, activists, and corporate grifters.
By 2019, the youthful voters he once inspired were older, saddled with higher rents, stagnant wages, and ballooning student debts. Their political energy had curdled into distrust. His party hemorrhaged support. Only the manufactured terror of COVID-19 postponed his reckoning.
The Great Betrayal: Fear as Governance
When the pandemic prolonged, Trudeau fabricated a new lease on political life. Fear became governance. The government, like many across the West, ordered mass lockdowns that sacrificed the livelihoods, educations, and mental health of the young to cocoon the elderly. Canada's response was among the most hysterical: lockdowns extended into 2022, school closures surpassed OECD averages, and border controls strangled commerce.
The greatest economic victims of these policies were the young. According to Statistics Canada, by late 2021, youth unemployment (ages 15–24) had soared to 14.5%, more than double the national average. Simultaneously, federal spending skyrocketed. The Fraser Institute estimates the federal debt ballooned from $619 billion in 2015 to $1.2 trillion by 2023, nearly doubling in less than a decade.
Today, every Canadian under 30 carries an additional $30,000 share of federal debt thanks to "modest deficits."
The End of Trudeau, The Rise of the Boomer Technocrats
By 2025, Trudeau was no longer salvageable. His party, desperate and cornered, reluctantly threw him overboard. Yet rather than pivoting toward renewal, the Liberals enthroned a figure representing everything Canadians had once sought to leave behind: Mark Carney and his radical green agenda.
Carney, a globalist banker who spent more of his career abroad than in Canada, is at odds with his country's political culture. He is stiff where Trudeau was manic, dour where Trudeau was exuberant, and hostile to scrutiny where Trudeau at least pretended at openness. Carney cannot speak fluent French. He cannot summon charisma. But he is fluent in the language of elite technocracy, globalese, and the bureaucratese of panels, frameworks, and steering committees.
He is the face of regression, not progress.
The Boomer Base: Fearful and Entitled
Polls confirm the shift. According to an Angus Reid recent survey (April 2025), Carney's strongest support lies among Canadians over 55 — the demographic that profited most from the past three decades' housing inflation and stock market booms. In the same survey, 68% of Gen Z and Millennials said the Liberals had "betrayed" their economic interests, while 27% of Boomers agreed.
In fact, among voters over 65, the Liberals under Carney enjoy a modest lead over the Conservatives, even as they hemorrhage support among every younger cohort.
The Regressive Party
The Liberals are no longer a "progressive" party in any meaningful sense. They are a party of fearful cranks: terrified of change, addicted to spending, suspicious of free speech, and hostile to national self-reliance. They mortgage the young's future to buy the old's comfort.
Federal debt: Up nearly 100% in a decade.
Federal spending: Expanded by 83% from 2015 to 2023.
GDP per capita: Stagnated. Canada's GDP per capita grew at just 0.3% annually post-2015, the worst among G7 nations.
Housing prices: Doubled from 2015 to 2023; home ownership among Canadians under 40 fell below 35%.
Food inflation: Reached 10% annually in 2022–2023, according to the University of Guelph’s Food Price Report.
Homelessness: Exploded, with tent cities now regular features even in mid-sized Canadian cities like Kitchener, Windsor, and Halifax.
Meanwhile, Ottawa under Trudeau and now Carney presided over cultural and civilizational decay:
Over 200 churches and synagogues have been vandalized or burned since 2021.
Free speech corroded; journalists bought off through $600 million in media bailouts.
Judicial systems paralyzed; court backlogs doubled. Revolving doors for dangerous criminals.
According to Statistics Canada, violent crime rates rose by 32% between 2015 and 2023.
Assisted suicide normalized: over 13,000 deaths by MAiD in 2022 alone, a grim global record.
The Unions and the Elites
Large unions continue to back the Liberals, but these are not unions of productive workers. They are the bloated syndicates of teachers, bureaucrats, and academics. Their leaders wave Soviet flags at parades, genuflect to foreign dictators, and back policies that mutilate children in the name of "gender affirmation." They speak neither for the productive classes nor for the working poor. They are an aristocracy of mediocrity, a leisure class on the taxpayer's back.
The productive private-sector worker — the engineer, the welder, the small business owner — finds no voice in Carney's Canada. They are taxed, regulated, and insulted. Their dreams are choked by layers of "progressive" red tape.
The Other Canada: Rebellion and Renewal
The alternative is emerging as a rough, imperfect political realignment: a coalition of the dispossessed, the productive, the young, and the brave. Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives now lead among voters under 40 — a stunning reversal of traditional patterns. A Leger poll from March 2025 found that 46% of Canadians aged 18–34 would vote Conservative, compared to just 23% Liberal.
This is not nostalgia. It is rebellion. It is the righteous hope of punishing a corrupt aristocracy and restoring promises to a generation betrayed.
The Choice Before Us
Canada stands at a fork in the road.
One path leads deeper into poorly managed decline, anti-human, anti-industry environmental ideology, debt slavery, and cultural disintegration under the regressive Liberals and their boomer technocrats.
The other leads toward painful but necessary renewal: freeing markets, freeing speech, ending the culture of fear, and dismantling the bureaucratic state that feasts upon the young and productive.
The choice is stark. The clock is ticking.
And no amount of tampons in men’s bathrooms will hide the stench of national decay.
It is so grotesque an inversion that history seems to offer no parallel: the instinct to shield and uplift the next generation has been a sacred duty, the defining trait of healthy cultures, is now pushed aside. The Trudeau heritage is Carney’s Canada, where the natural order has been perversely inverted. The old demand the sacrifice of future generations, and call it Canada's strength.
Mark Carney's Canada: Regressives Betraying Generations
They promised hope and delivered fear. They promised equality and built an empire of debt. Under Carney, Canada's progressives have become a regressive force clinging to power at any cost.
If you knew much about history you'd also know that the massive divide between rich and poor has happened previously, like just before the great depression and just before the French revolution. If you had a more open mind you'd also know that there are countries that tax the rich much more that are doing better, both in life expectancy, general happiness and ecomically.
The US is becoming a failed state and conservatives here want to follow that path.
Katy Perry's trip to space put out as much carbon as the 1 billion poorest people on the planet will put out in their entire life.
I agree. Older Canadian voters are very selfish. Bought houses for 30 to 100k.
Don't give a shit about anybody but themselves and keep voting Liberal knowing they will keep the party going.
The party will stop but they won't be paying for it as they will be dead or close to it.
The younger generation have been brainwashed and are financially ignorant and don't even know they are getting reamed up the backend.
Democracy fails when people do not vote in their own interest, but was PP offering any programs that will move the needle on wealth redistribution? The only way to do it is through taxation of estates. As I said before, PP wanted to cancel the capital gains tax increase, Carney did it, both had significant potential capital gains and Singh, Blanchette and even the Effin Greens did not call them out on it.
you can blame all liberal voters for giving this set of corrupt liberals another term
it is however its not older Canadian's fault their homes appreciated in value
that is due to supply / demand dynamics, which the federal liberals screwed up with excessive immigration
all levels of govt (Federal/ Provincial/ Municipal) made a mess of the supply side, as development charges represent a huge fraction of a new home cost
many older Canadian's will not touch crypto , so perhaps they lose by omitting those investments
re The younger generation have been brainwashed and are financially ignorant:
financial literary courses should be mandatory in all high school programs, perhaps even earlier
that would be far more beneficial to younger generations rather than convincing them they will char broil because of cow farts
