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Carney's immigration plan a recipe for more overcrowding

bazokajoe

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Ontario has already lowered enrollment. We have plenty of low wage workers. We just need to get them out of the Niagara hotels, with work papers.

As for the rest it's all rhetoric and not constructive at all.
We just need to get them out of the hotels and on a plane back to their homeland.
 
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Butler1000

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I agree we are at course correction time, which is what I believe Carney is doing by reducing future immigration targets.
That can be course corrected up or down, later, per results is what I mean.
I think his numbers are still too high. This nation is, like most of the world, about to hit a recession.
 

Butler1000

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Recession is unrelated, but we will find out if it is too high.
I think incremental reductions are better than drastic cuts.
How about a larger cut and then adjust UP? Taking people in is easy. It's dealing with too many that causes problems. Right now we don't have a population shortage, we have a dealing with a previous surge problem.

And yes, a recession means less jobs, and higher social services spending for existing citizens. So it does matter.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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How about a larger cut and then adjust UP?
There is no definition of what a larger cut is.
There is always a larger number than what you propose.
We just need to take directionally correct steps for now which is what Carney is doing.
 
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JeanGary Diablo

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No, what should be framed is you guys forcing the carbon tax, only to cheer when Carney slashed it to zero.

You are a liar and hypocrite.
I have never been in favour of the carbon tax for citizens. When have you ever heard me say that? I am in favour of it -- strongly, I might add -- on industries. Having that tax allows us to trade with the EU and UK.
 

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Ghawar
I have never been in favour of the carbon tax for citizens. When have you ever heard me say that? I am in favour of it -- strongly, I might add -- on industries. Having that tax allows us to trade with the EU and UK.
You are fine with individuals driving gas guzzlers with little regard
for Earth's climate future but want to see business like transportation
of essential goods (like groceries) penalized by carbon tax? No wonder
carbon emission growth has been going nowhere but up.
 

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I thinkbthe number should, gor the next two years, be around 250,000, with a heavy concentration of skilled workers in Healthcare, construction, and engineering types for all the building he wants to do.
No, it needs to be reduced to zero.

Allowing hundreds of thousands in will be treated as a loophole for more of the same. It'll also continue to dilute the possibility for integration and create a greater bottleneck on required housing.
 

DesRicardo

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No, it needs to be reduced to zero.

Allowing hundreds of thousands in will be treated as a loophole for more of the same. It'll also continue to dilute the possibility for integration and create a greater bottleneck on required housing.
Cap at 250K is good. I don't mind if the person is skilled or necessary to society.

But the more we bring in, the more uncertainty arises.
 
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silentkisser

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Look, we can all agree that the Trudeau government mess up immigration, especially the TFW program and to a lesser extent, the International students program. What they did was make housing more expensive and made it hard for Canadians (especially teens) to get jobs in places like Tim Hortons. That sucks. And, now that they've reversed course, colleges and universities across Canada (especially the ones who really recruited international students) are slashing programs and courses...which does suck for them because Ontario (and other provinces) won't allow them to raise tuition fees...

But, the one part of the immigration problem that not many people are addressing is Canada's demographic timebomb. We have an aging population and a birthrate that is well below replacement levels, let along growth. We need younger workers to help support the elderly (in healthcare for example), as well as work the jobs of the future. And, let's be realistic, having a large domestic market would help build Canada in several ways.

So, what I'm saying is, we still need to a pipeline of immigrants to help build this country. I know there are several righties out there who just want white Europeans to be the main source of immigration....But, that is not the case. But, I still think Canada's points system for immigration is top notch, and should be continued. And, the provinces should forces their regulatory bodies (like the College of Physicians and Surgeons) to make it easier for foreign born and trained doctors to practice in Canada. Why are we wasting talent like this, forcing them to do shit like drive a taxi? Especially when we need more doctors and nurses...

The bottom line is that we need a solid plan. One where we get the best and brightest immigrants to come here and help build the country, even settle new areas. I mean, one of the potential benefits of climate change is we could see more people living in the North. Of course we would need to massively invest in infrastructure to make that a possibility.
 
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