CBC Documentary on Pet Food (and how bad it is for your pet)

[james t kirk]

Cats are not scavengers.

They hunt and kill small mamals and birds.

Cats are obligate carnivores - they eat meat, not kibble. They get a few essential minerals and vitamins when they eat their prey and by default consume what their prey has it in its stomach - vegetation.

You will also see cats eating grass - they need the chlorophyl. Though this often times causes them to throw up.

 

[Esco!]

You will also see cats eating grass - they need the chlorophyl.Though this often times causes them to throw up.

So where are you going with all this, Kirkie??????
I'm not getting all off this!!??

 

[Esco!]

Cats are not scavengers.

They hunt and kill small mamals and birds.

Cats are obligate carnivores - they eat meat, not kibble. They get a few essential minerals and vitamins when they eat their prey and by default consume what their prey has it in its stomach - vegetation.

You will also see cats eating grass - they need the chlorophyl. Though this often times causes them to throw up.

Very funny Kirk
But Esco is a Thetan Operating 7

Very few people wanna fart with me

Hotdamn........ hotdamn......its OT7, dammit!!

 

[ig-88]

Is pet food cheaper than human food?

 

[big dogie]

Is pet food cheaper than human food?

Pet food is twice the price.

 

[big dogie]

Cats are not scavengers.

They hunt and kill small mamals and birds.

Cats are obligate carnivores - they eat meat, not kibble. They get a few essential minerals and vitamins when they eat their prey and by default consume what their prey has it in its stomach - vegetation.

You will also see cats eating grass - they need the chlorophyl. Though this often times causes them to throw up.

Why are they always in my garbage then? Another poster stated that his cat lived till 21 years old on kibble not birds or small mamals. How much older do you think this cat should have lived? Another thing is perscription diets for kidney or liver........ conditions where do you think this research came from?
Get your head out of your ass man.......

I just had some grass so I guess I will go throw up now.....


b d

 

[Asterix]

Pet food is twice the price.

Twice the price compared to what exactly?

 

[ig-88]

There was some kind of stereotype involving poor old ladies buying dog food.

I always wondered about this.

I thought dog food was pretty expensive.

As for cheap food ... Nissin Cup of Noodles. My grocery has them for 3/$1.

 

[Asterix]

There was some kind of stereotype involving poor old ladies buying dog food.
I always wondered about this.

I thought dog food was pretty expensive.

As for cheap food ... Nissin Cup of Noodles. My grocery has them for 3/$1.

Not planning of making this a staple of your diet I hope.

 

[21pro]

feeding your dog schneiders red hots is healthier than any kibble.

the ONLY kibble I recommend for dogs is Orijen... it's made without grains.

 

[Never Compromised]

the ONLY kibble I recommend for dogs is Orijen... it's made without grains.

Since the recall, Orijen is what I feed the cats. But I have found a Wellness kibble that is also 80% meat/meat products and grain free.

 

[big dogie]

Twice the price compared to what exactly?

This what I am told from people that I know that have switched fron kibble ti a Barf (bones and raw food) diet. To get this cost a lot of people form little cults and they each try to find cheap sources of ingredients.

b d

 

[big dogie]

feeding your dog schneiders red hots is healthier than any kibble.

the ONLY kibble I recommend for dogs is Orijen... it's made without grains.

You sound like you shop at a Ryan's or Global pet foods. That is the marketing tactic they use and product they push, Orijen, because it has a very generous mark up. I would caution you to by the food in small bags and inspect often because it holds allot of moisture and may mould quickly. I am pretty sure it is of good quality though but the mould susceptibility I find scary. Mould can kill!! Bottom line this is a multi billion industry that uses scare tactics to market their products or books or what ever they can get you to buy.

b d

 

[Moraff]

This what I am told from people that I know that have switched fron kibble ti a Barf (bones and raw food) diet. To get this cost a lot of people form little cults and they each try to find cheap sources of ingredients.

b d

So they don't want to buy pet food because the manf's use cheap ingredients but then try to find the cheapest stuff to make their own.

Seems a little warped to me.

My cat lived 17 years eating mostly Nutrience kibble as she did not like human food (honest I could put a plate of gravy down and she would sniff and walk away) and only rarely ate more than a spoonful of moist food (more so as she got older).

 

[james t kirk]

My cat lived 17 years eating mostly Nutrience kibble as she did not like human food (honest I could put a plate of gravy down and she would sniff and walk away) and only rarely ate more than a spoonful of moist food (more so as she got older).

Put a bowl of M and M's in front of an 8 year old kid on the left and a healthy balanced meal on the right- see which one the kid eats.

The pet food manufacturers spray fat from the rendering mills all over the kibble in order to entice the cat to eat the crap otherwise, no self respecting cat would touch it. In essence, they fool the cat to eat crud by making it taste good.

The trick to switching a cat over to normal food is to introduce it slowly into their diet. Eventually using less and less kibble till there is none.

My cats get tuna, salmon, liver, or chicken legs. They eat it all. One was right out of the gate OK with it, the other took some getting used to it.

 

[Moraff]

Put a bowl of M and M's in front of an 8 year old kid on the left and a healthy balanced meal on the right- see which one the kid eats.

The pet food manufacturers spray fat from the rendering mills all over the kibble in order to entice the cat to eat the crap otherwise, no self respecting cat would touch it. In essence, they fool the cat to eat crud by making it taste good.

The trick to switching a cat over to normal food is to introduce it slowly into their diet. Eventually using less and less kibble till there is none.

My cats get tuna, salmon, liver, or chicken legs. They eat it all. One was right out of the gate OK with it, the other took some getting used to it.

But, using your analogy I doubt the kid would live for 17 years eating only M & Ms whereas my cat was healthy and happy right up until the end of her 17 years with me.

I'm sure there are some poor pet food choices out there, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they are ALL horrible.

 

[Corey]

I would say most kibble products are shit.

Just look at how many foods produced by Menu Foods were recalled last year.

However, I do trust Wellness.

If you can afford it, the raw diet is the way to go.

 

[bestillmehard]

MY SO's cat ate whiskas meaty selections for her first 2 years. The cat is a decrepid looking skinny little thing. She would not eat anything else. Once in a while she would lick the juice off the tuna that was her daily treat. After thousands of dollars spent at the vet with no change in the cat the vet suggested EVO brand food. Its made with turkey, eggs, carrots, chicken, apples and tomatoes.With added antioxidant vitamins. Protein rich, ultra low carbs and NO GRAIN. He told us most cats gain weight eating this food. It cost 14.99 plus tax for a 2.2 lb bag. She has been eating this food for close to a year now. She loves it....eats it right up...but still no change....still a decrepid crazy cat. She is happy and very playful / energetic but still very skinny.

 

[Moraff]

I feed my dog Orijen as well. It is more expensive than other foods but it's grain-free and made with quality products. At the same time, the bag clearly states "not for human consumption". Not that I want to eat my dog's kibble, but I do question this. If the ingredients are that high a quality, why couldn't humans eat it? In any case, my puppy loves it and he is perfectly healthy.
xoxo

My guess is that they have to put it there because the product has not been subject to all the tests the gov't would require for it to be labelled "human-safe". Chances are pretty good you could chow down with your dog and not suffer any harm. Probably get a few strange looks however.

 

[Corey]

Raw diet food is available at Bark & Fitz and Global Pet Food.

You can buy just the meat made by Pets4life and add your own vegetables.

It's quite affordable if you have a cat or a small or medium dog.

If you really want to go full out, you can add probiotics, omega three capsules and flax oil to the food. All that stuff you can get at a good health store like the Big Carrot.