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Ironhead

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Marv Levy got his start as Head coach in the CFL with Montreal.
Over a five seasons he got the team to three Grey Cups, winning two.
He went back to the NFL where he became HC of KC and Buffalo, leading the Bills to six division titles(and seven in eight seasons) and four Super Bowls in a row.
 

antaeus

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When the NFL expanded ~15 years ago adding Baltimore, Jacksonville, Houston, Carolina, there was a huge drain on available talent in the CFL. Prior to that expansion the argument of leagues' relative talent level was less profound.

The Canadian college system plus import quotas ensure some really good talent at certain positions, notably linemen, some defensive back positions and occasional receiver. The NFL expansion talent sponge grossly affected CFL talent level at quaterback, receiver and safety - defensive backs; still present today.

The game's rules develop some dramatically different play strategy. American players, college and NFL, are awestruck at the physical fitness required of CFL players, often shadowing CFL players to learn their training regimen; a few who played both leagues have published books or chapters on this aspect.

It's not just the bigger field. Clock rules are hugely different: less time between plays; average ball in play NFL game 11 - 15 minutes, CFL about 20 - 28 minutes ball in play. These 8 - 10 minute drives much praised in NFL are impossible with CFL clock rules, there's never been one in 90+ year history of the game. Different sets, one yard line of scrimmage offset, more man coverage although this changes with teams and seasons, tight end (NFL) vs slotback (CFL). NFL excels in specialized player utilization i.e. 3rd down receiver or lineman who only gets on field for 3 - 5 plays per game, almost absent in CFL.

Where the league's really differ is NFL tremendous vs. CFL's modest talent level and NFL's moronic and intrusive clock managment rules vs. CFL's less intrusive, less stoppage and time wasting play. NFL game 3 - 4 minutes left leading team can essentially run out clock; in CFL that's impossible until about 30 - 40 seconds remaining.

I think it's the CFL's clock management rules that engender endless comments of how the Canadian game is more exciting despite modest to bad player talent.
 

lurkerjoe

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When the NFL expanded ~15 years ago adding Baltimore, Jacksonville, Houston, Carolina, there was a huge drain on available talent in the CFL. Prior to that expansion the argument of leagues' relative talent level was less profound.

The Canadian college system plus import quotas ensure some really good talent at certain positions, notably linemen, some defensive back positions and occasional receiver. The NFL expansion talent sponge grossly affected CFL talent level at quaterback, receiver and safety - defensive backs; still present today.

The game's rules develop some dramatically different play strategy. American players, college and NFL, are awestruck at the physical fitness required of CFL players, often shadowing CFL players to learn their training regimen; a few who played both leagues have published books or chapters on this aspect.

It's not just the bigger field. Clock rules are hugely different: less time between plays; average ball in play NFL game 11 - 15 minutes, CFL about 20 - 28 minutes ball in play. These 8 - 10 minute drives much praised in NFL are impossible with CFL clock rules, there's never been one in 90+ year history of the game. Different sets, one yard line of scrimmage offset, more man coverage although this changes with teams and seasons, tight end (NFL) vs slotback (CFL). NFL excels in specialized player utilization i.e. 3rd down receiver or lineman who only gets on field for 3 - 5 plays per game, almost absent in CFL.

Where the league's really differ is NFL tremendous vs. CFL's modest talent level and NFL's moronic and intrusive clock managment rules vs. CFL's less intrusive, less stoppage and time wasting play. NFL game 3 - 4 minutes left leading team can essentially run out clock; in CFL that's impossible until about 30 - 40 seconds remaining.

I think it's the CFL's clock management rules that engender endless comments of how the Canadian game is more exciting despite modest to bad player talent.
Yeah, what he says. CFL rocks and our balls are bigger.
 

Maddog

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Watch a guy like Braylon Edwards be wide open, no one around him, and then he drops the ball...please...the NFL simply looks for 6'5'' receivers who can run a 4.2 in the 40. Pound for pound, give me a CFL receiver like Fantuz or Ben Cahoon any day. The NFL makes such a big deal of the catch that David Tyree made in the Superbowl a few years ago...where is he now? That type of catch is commonplace in the CFL. Yes, the average NFLer is a superior athlete. But I'll take the CFL game any day.
 

Anynym

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Watch a guy like Braylon Edwards be wide open, no one around him, and then he drops the ball...please...the NFL simply looks for 6'5'' receivers who can run a 4.2 in the 40. Pound for pound, give me a CFL receiver like Fantuz or Ben Cahoon any day. The NFL makes such a big deal of the catch that David Tyree made in the Superbowl a few years ago...where is he now? That type of catch is commonplace in the CFL. Yes, the average NFLer is a superior athlete. But I'll take the CFL game any day.
You're welcome to it.

My problem with the CFL is that it's forced to be so one-dimensional.

The size of the field, and the 3-down rule, force almost every play to be a passing down, with too much real estate to shut down all the lanes. The no-yards rule gives the receivers a chance to break away, and the net result is, IMO, boring. Teams have no character. You don't get to put up a strong running game against a strong passing game. You don't get to match up a strong defense against the best offense - all you get to see is whether a few defenders can tackle the receiver.

Those who love the CFL game are welcome to it.
 

spankingman

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You're welcome to it.

My problem with the CFL is that it's forced to be so one-dimensional.

The size of the field, and the 3-down rule, force almost every play to be a passing down, with too much real estate to shut down all the lanes. The no-yards rule gives the receivers a chance to break away, and the net result is, IMO, boring. Teams have no character. You don't get to put up a strong running game against a strong passing game. You don't get to match up a strong defense against the best offense - all you get to see is whether a few defenders can tackle the receiver.

Those who love the CFL game are welcome to it.
NOTHING could beat the catch Ticats TONY CHAMPION made in the 89 Grey Cup on his back IN THE AIR! Wish I could find the vid.
 
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