Chances of STDs when visiting SPs!

[Anton145]

Thanks Alona for giving us the insider view of the industry. Glad to see at least one agency is giving some sex ed 101. I wonder if us clients start demanding the agencies give at least minimum safety training, what would happen.

Unfortunately, there is no way to know with 100% certainty who is safer: an agency, indy or civilian. Civilians may have been with fewer partners, but you really have no idea of how many and she may even have been an SP in a previous life. A virgin would carry no risk at all, but again it can be difficult to know if she truly is unless you're doing a medical test. In addition, civilians may have never been tested before or even heard of the Hassle Free Clinic. That's not to say that indys or agency girls have regular tests either, but they are more likely to have done it. Even a negative STI test doesn't prove anything either because there is always a gap between tests where someone can get infected.

I personally stick with well reviewed indy ladies too. Most of the well reviewed indys have clear restrictions and care about their personal hygiene. I haven't seen many agency girls since I share Alona's concern that the ladies are just cycled through as much as possible to maximize profit. This is not to say that agency girls are any less clean than indys. It simply depends on if the lady cares or knows about the safety risks and gets herself tested regularly.

I the OP truly wants to minimize risk, then stay at home to some porn Seriously though, an MPA probably more for you and don't go for the extras: kissing, bbcs, or ass slide on cock (can't remember if that's called italian or spanish?) Don't think you can get anything from a hand job or russian unless the MPA's hands / boobs happen to have blood on them / open wounds, or has metal slivers on them

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that if the OP is going to start hobbying especially if you want FS, then you need to get yourself tested regularly. Triply so if you have a significant other in your life.

I tend to agree that well-reviewed independents SPs offering safe GFE are probably better (unless the agency have girls tested on a regular basis).

One thing never mentioned here is this. Testing yourself is useless. If you learn you are clean, you keep continuing. If you carry something, that may only help your wife. You still see girls (to be honest, most do not care about others) and perhaps now even more so, cause you think you have it already and it does not get worse than this.

So geting tested is good, but it does not help yourself, it helps others. Note to mention the feeling of guilt, anxiety, psychiatric issues etc. WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT SAFELY BEFOREHAND.

 

[Anton145]

If you want to see a lot a hot girls go down t the Hassle Free Clinic on a monday morning during women's hours.

Getting tested is not much helpful. I can go everyday, what do I get from that? See the above comment.

 

[krayjee]

The risks are much higher at Asian MPs lately where lots of girls and guys are doing BBFS from what I heard. Pls play safe and carry hats with you all the time. Anything can happen at the heat of the moments.

 

[explorerzip]

I disagree. SPs see 4 5 guys a day !!

There's no way to know how many guys an SP sees a day. Same goes with civilians.

Here's something to think about. What's riskier: an SP that has sex with 4 different guys in 1 day or a civilian that has sex with 1 guy that knows he's infected 4 times in 1 day?

That's the trouble with trying to measure the risks of this hobby folks. There is certainly a higher probability of catching something when you see an SP that has also had sex with multiple partners, but you can also catch something from a civilian that has few or just one sex partner. In the end it depends on a whole list of factors: hygiene, overall health (or lack thereof), strength of the immune system, diet, exercise, does the carrier have symptoms or not, hereditary, etc.

 

[oldguyzer2]

BBBJ is a much bigger risk than I am willing to take. And with the ladies seizing up to 10 or more girls a day the odds start to build up against you. Even with my favs I won't do it unless they leave the business and get tested.

 

[oldguyzer2]

what are the chances you could catch std with a NON sp? same shit... going out clubbing, taking them home and get a quickie will get you the same risk.

Risks are higher with non professionals, who usually know what to do to minimize their risks and don't get spur of the moment urges to try BBFS.

 

[Celticman]

It's interesting how virtually everything is discussed on Terb. Yet I do not recall any guy coming out and stating that he picked up an STD, what it was, how (if) it was cured, how/where/who it came from and how it affected his life. Yet surely it has happened?

 

[explorerzip]

One thing never mentioned here is this. Testing yourself is useless. If you learn you are clean, you keep continuing. If you carry something, that may only help your wife. You still see girls (to be honest, most do not care about others) and perhaps now even more so, cause you think you have it already and it does not get worse than this.

So geting tested is good, but it does not help yourself, it helps others. Note to mention the feeling of guilt, anxiety, psychiatric issues etc. WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT SAFELY BEFOREHAND.

Not quite sure how you can say that testing is useless because all STD's affect your health regardless if you're single or have a partner. Certain STD's can cause long term problems if left untreated. Even a 'clean' test doesn't mean you are in the clear either. Some STD's don't show any symptoms or go in cycles. Take a quick look at any medical site to see what the symptoms of STD's are. Most are not pleasant: pain during urination, burning sensations, rashes, etc. You can certainly call these 'nuisances', but think about having them for the rest of your life and see how much of a 'nuisance' it really is. Then there's Hep C and HIV that can be deadly or cause organ problems. At minimum, you'll be popping pills for the rest of your life.

If you have a 'clean' test, it just means you are today. You could easily get an STD down the road and you would have no way knowing unless you're regularly testing. Just so you know, syphilis can cause long term problems (including death) if it goes untreated and they only way to know if you have it is to get tested. I think I am helping myself a lot if I can prevent health problems or an early and painful death by getting a regular test.

 

[DELETDrileydaniels]

Trust me. You don't want to know the answer.

Lots of risks and you only listed some of them. It's too late for most of us but you still have a chance to save yourself.

With the way you posted, even if you caught nothing, you'd drive yourself crazy constantly worrying about it. This hobby is not for you. Find a girlfriend and then you'll have zero worries about STD's as civvie girls are much cleaner.

now the whole civie girls are much cleaner is not true, everytime you have sex with anyone SP or not your taking a risk. all you can do really is use condoms properly and get yourself tested regularly, but if the fear of worrying you could get something is soo stressful this hobby isn't for you.

and even if you have a girlfriend you both need to have a routine of being tested regularly even if your in a monogamous relationship. its just good practice.

 

[massman]

True. I've had way more civvie experiences where impulsive bare everything was on the table. Never with a paid companion.

 

[genintoronto]

In the context of casual sexual encounters, the first rule of safer sex practice is to always assume that you're partner is infected. From there, proceed according to the risk level that you're comfortable taking. Not every STI carries the same consequences in terms of health, social and/or psychological inconvenience, and some are much easier to transmit than others. Many STIs are easily treatable, and only carry minor inconvenience if treated early and properly. Others, like herpes, can only be treated for the symptoms: once it is introduced in your system, it lives there forever.

Someone who is single may be OK with taking the risk of being infected with chlamydia. But obviously, that risks carries a whole other set of consequences for someone who is in a relationship, and who engages is unprotected sex with their SO. It's up to you to decide what you are comfortable with based on your own situation, and what you can or cannot deal with. To do so though, you need to educate yourself about the various type of infections, how they are transmitted, what are their symptoms, treatments, and ways to reduce the risks of infection.

You can start by having a look at this chart here: http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp, which give an overview of the risks associated with different sexual activities. You can click on each type of infection to get more detailed information on the symptoms, treatment, and ways to reduce risk of infection.

 

[Anton145]

now the whole civie girls are much cleaner is not true, everytime you have sex with anyone SP or not your taking a risk. all you can do really is use condoms properly and get yourself tested regularly, but if the fear of worrying you could get something is soo stressful this hobby isn't for you.

and even if you have a girlfriend you both need to have a routine of being tested regularly even if your in a monogamous relationship. its just good practice.

civie girls usually stay with one guy for few months and then may change partner. They do not fuck like pigs non-stopping. Lower chance of STD in my opinion. The problem with SPs is having a large number of sexual partners, high frequency, and dealing with a high risk sector of the population (us!). I am pretty sure every SP out there has HPV and herpes at least.

 

[Anton145]

In the context of casual sexual encounters, the first rule of safer sex practice is to always assume that you're partner is infected. From there, proceed according to the risk level that you're comfortable taking. Not every STI carries the same consequences in terms of health, social and/or psychological inconvenience, and some are much easier to transmit than others. Many STIs are easily treatable, and only carry minor inconvenience if treated early and properly. Others, like herpes, can only be treated for the symptoms: once it is introduced in your system, it lives there forever.

Someone who is single may be OK with taking the risk of being infected with chlamydia. But obviously, that risks carries a whole other set of consequences for someone who is in a relationship, and who engages is unprotected sex with their SO. It's up to you to decide what you are comfortable with based on your own situation, and what you can or cannot deal with. To do so though, you need to educate yourself about the various type of infections, how they are transmitted, what are their symptoms, treatments, and ways to reduce the risks of infection.

You can start by having a look at this chart here: http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp, which give an overview of the risks associated with different sexual activities. You can click on each type of infection to get more detailed information on the symptoms, treatment, and ways to reduce risk of infection.

Now this is a good response !

 

[rex_baner]

NO one is safe... A well reviewed SP can see one client who carries something and catch it. She can see other people and spread it. Those other people can spread it to their loved ones. Their loved ones can spread it to their Other loved ones, those other loved ones can spread it to the not so popular sp... the cycle continues. In the end its really russian roulette.

No one is safer than the other unless one doesn't have sex at all. If you are really concerned, buy a blow up doll, a flesh light ( apparently these are real) or simply jerk off.

 

[desigambler]

Dude. I have been hobbying for 10 years and never caught anything. When I go to see an SP, I always pick girls from reputable agencies. Avoid picking up girls off church st and jarvis st lol Always always use a condom. One of the nurses at an anonymous sex clinic told me that kissing carries a small risk of transmission. The risk is when someone has bleeding gums and open sores in his/her mouth. The saliva in mouth seems to kill viruses/bacteria but when blood mixes into the saliva that's when there's a risk of transmission. Avoiding DATY will also help catching up anything.

Worry less and enjoy more.

 

[Anton145]

Dude. I have been hobbying for 10 years and never caught anything. When I go to see an SP, I always pick girls from reputable agencies. Avoid picking up girls off church st and jarvis st lol Always always use a condom. One of the nurses at an anonymous sex clinic told me that kissing carries a small risk of transmission. The risk is when someone has bleeding gums and open sores in his/her mouth. The saliva in mouth seems to kill viruses/bacteria but when blood mixes into the saliva that's when there's a risk of transmission. Avoiding DATY will also help catching up anything.

Worry less and enjoy more.

That's the thing. You see people hobbying for years and nothing happening to them. On the other hand you read these scary medical articles that HPV is very very common (26% of population), condoms offer very little protection for this infection if any, it cannot even be tested for men, and it can lead to several cancers !!!! nice ! but how come these guys do not get cancer !! )

Either medical community is exaggerating or these guys are not aware of their health status.

If condoms do not protect against HPV and herpes, then I rather not to see a SP again ! (I have never done BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK with a SP).

 

[dirkd101]

Dude, seek professional help or stop hobbying.

 

[Brandon123]

definitely avoid bbbj. I even avoid the girls that offer that. to compare to the retarded car driving analogy, thats like doing this...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/19/article-1046790-0256E73A00000578-15_468x286.jpg

I doubt you can see any agency ladies then because majority of them offer bbbj.

 

[Cobra Enorme]

civie girls usually stay with one guy for few months and then may change partner. They do not fuck like pigs non-stopping. Lower chance of STD in my opinion. The problem with SPs is having a large number of sexual partners, high frequency, and dealing with a high risk sector of the population (us!). I am pretty sure every SP out there has HPV and herpes at least.

This is obvious, but some of the shills on this site want the public to think they're not taking massive risks for STD's with prostitutes. Life seriously, you're putting peoples lives in danger by not being honest with the noobs.

Comparing getting a BBBJ from a prostitute to getting a BBBJ from a hot chick at a nightclub isnt even in the same galaxy, nevermind the same ballpark

 

[Brandon123]

That's the thing. You see people hobbying for years and nothing happening to them. On the other hand you read these scary medical articles that HPV is very very common (26% of population), condoms offer very little protection for this infection if any, it cannot even be tested for men, and it can lead to several cancers !!!! nice ! but how come these guys do not get cancer !! )

Either medical community is exaggerating or these guys are not aware of their health status.

If condoms do not protect against HPV and herpes, then I rather not to see a SP again ! (I have never done BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK with a SP).

You can't avoid HPV, 90% of the population have it. HPV doesn't only come from SP, regular girls have it too. The only way you avoid HPV is not to have sex at all and I doubt that's going to happen. Don't worry about anything you do not have control over. Get tested yearly and practice safe sex.