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Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

Butler1000

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Now we wait and see how he is used as a Martyr, or a Sinner. By people who only see the political advantage and not large stack of dry tinder everyone is standing on.

Battle lines forming in various European nations, Nepal blowing up, economic pressures. Not even seeing much news out of The southern hemisphere.

He is going to be a footnote in a long and bad 2nd half of the decade.
 

squeezer

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Now we wait and see how he is used as a Martyr, or a Sinner. By people who only see the political advantage and not large stack of dry tinder everyone is standing on.

Battle lines forming in various European nations, Nepal blowing up, economic pressures. Not even seeing much news out of The southern hemisphere.

He is going to be a footnote in a long and bad 2nd half of the decade.
I think this will help the lying Repugs in the midterms just like that missed shot at Trump helped him win the election.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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.....you seem to be relishing in while pretending to be compassionate.....
This is a mistake from the right to attribute such ill will towards people on the left even when they express condolences.
It is the same one Juan made.
Nobody is happy Charlie died.
You dont have to like Charlie to feel sad that this happened.
 

squeezer

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I didn't insult you, I made a real time observation based on your personality and behavior. I know a whole bunch of profanity if that was my motive. And according to you this isn't a sad day, it's a self fulfilling prophesy that you seem to be relishing in while pretending to be compassionate. Classy as fuck!!!
Kirk's words below yet you refuse to follow his teachings! Kirk was also a very religious man and now he's gone to his happy place, yet you insist on attacking me. I don't understand it Opti. If you released all this profanity you claim to know, I'd be lost because I've never said a bad word in my life.


"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage"
 

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This is a mistake from the right to attribute such ill will towards people on the left even when they express condolences.
It is the same one Juan made.
Nobody is happy Charlie died.
You dont have to like Charlie to feel sad that this happened.
The right Trump MAGA cannot comprehend the grey area when things like this happen. For them, suddenly, all liberals wanted him dead and are cheering.

MAGA's live in a black or white society. If you are not like me, you are my enemy.
 

squeezer

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This is a mistake from the right to attribute such ill will towards people on the left even when they express condolences.
It is the same one Juan made.
Nobody is happy Charlie died.
You dont have to like Charlie to feel sad that this happened.
All righties project their true faults onto others.
 
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Frankfooter

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I don't have high standards when it come to the lunatic left

but this has to be one of the lowest, disgusting comments in this thread
Is this posted to a higher standard?
Seems like a good time to try to tone it all down a bit.

The guy got killed, I personally think he had shitty views but nobody should be killed just for being an asshole.
Hope they catch the person that did it and he is put on trial.

 

Valcazar

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When I got home and heard the news, I was too curious to see what the thread on here would be like.
Honestly much less batshit than I expected.

Out in the wider world, we're already seeing the spin and conspiracy theorizing:

  • It was someone who is trans
  • They promised him they would fake an attempt like with Trump but then missed or double-crossed him
  • Security was deliberately pulled
  • The first guy was the shooter, but the evil Deep State forced the cops to cover it up

No one knows shit yet, of course.
We don't know if it was a political hit or just attention seeking.
There is a good chance it was political of course, he focused on youth politics and the youth have grown up under trump and so are far more likely to believe violence is an appropriate way to deal with political problems.
If it was political, we don't know what the politics of the shooter were and may never know if they aren't caught. (And even then.)

Kirk will be wildly sane-washed by the press, and the right-wing will go even further to sanitize him, they aren't going to waste a good martyr opportunity.
I expect this will get WAY more press and longer legs than any other political attacks so far this year.

While from everything I've seen of him, he seems like a pretty vile person, stochastic terrorism in general is bad for the country and plays more into the hands of extremists and authoritarians in general, no matter the target or the motivation of the shooter. Nothing good is likely to come of this, and much bad.
 

squeezer

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Correct me if I'm wrong. You believe wherever his spirit may be he's saying, 'whoa, cool, this is exactly what I wanted'? 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️
I'm not religious, so I don't believe any of it, but Kirk claimed to be; therefore, in his mind, early this morning, while still alive, he would be in a happy place in death. Tell me anything I've stated here is incorrect.
 

mandrill

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I'm not religious, so I don't believe any of it, but Kirk claimed to be; therefore, in his mind, early this morning, while still alive, he would be in a happy place in death. Tell me anything I've stated here is incorrect.
Jesus will give Charlie a super hot trad wife in heaven and she'll cook him turkey dinner every night.
 

mandrill

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When I got home and heard the news, I was too curious to see what the thread on here would be like.
Honestly much less batshit than I expected.

Out in the wider world, we're already seeing the spin and conspiracy theorizing:

  • It was someone who is trans
  • They promised him they would fake an attempt like with Trump but then missed or double-crossed him
  • Security was deliberately pulled
  • The first guy was the shooter, but the evil Deep State forced the cops to cover it up

No one knows shit yet, of course.
We don't know if it was a political hit or just attention seeking.
There is a good chance it was political of course, he focused on youth politics and the youth have grown up under trump and so are far more likely to believe violence is an appropriate way to deal with political problems.
If it was political, we don't know what the politics of the shooter were and may never know if they aren't caught. (And even then.)

Kirk will be wildly sane-washed by the press, and the right-wing will go even further to sanitize him, they aren't going to waste a good martyr opportunity.
I expect this will get WAY more press and longer legs than any other political attacks so far this year.

While from everything I've seen of him, he seems like a pretty vile person, stochastic terrorism in general is bad for the country and plays more into the hands of extremists and authoritarians in general, no matter the target or the motivation of the shooter. Nothing good is likely to come of this, and much bad.
The sane-washing is already going strong in this thread.
 
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Butler1000

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I think this will help the lying Repugs in the midterms just like that missed shot at Trump helped him win the election.
I think things are going to get worse and there will be lots of fresh tinder being added to the fire.

Charlie was also the primary organizing person. How that vacuum is filled will be far more important than memes in a year+.
 
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