Charlie Sheen questions 9/11!!!!!

[Papi Chulo]

I did see a report on CNN by a expert about how the steel melted and what caused the steel frame to fail. Once the steel frame failed it was inevitable that the towers would collapse. If I can find the report I will link it.

Please post the link.. under optimal burning conditions for jet fuel, it is not possible to melt steel.. It is also not likely to have reached a temperature of 600 C at which the steel would lose half of its strength... funny thing is, the steel used was rated to withstand 2000F for 6 hours.

I wonder, did burning jet fuel also weaken the structure of WTC 47 and cause its collapse?

After seeing all of the info available... it looks like a controlled demolition

Also... where were the pieces of the plane that hit the pentagon???


I bet you also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy

 

[scroll99]

FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape
Recording Contained Accounts of Communications With Hijacked Planes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6632-2004May6

 

[dreamer]

I bet you also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy

Actually I do, based on his actions before and after the shooting. Does that preclude others from being involved, we may never know.

 

[dreamer]

FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape
Recording Contained Accounts of Communications With Hijacked Planes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6632-2004May6

That is a prime example of what the real conspiracy is about, protecting those who may have failed in their jobs.

 

[scroll99]

NORAD had drills of jets as weapons

NORAD had drills of jets as weapons

By Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.

One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon — but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

NORAD, in a written statement, confirmed that such hijacking exercises occurred. It said the scenarios outlined were regional drills, not regularly scheduled continent-wide exercises.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm

 

[dreamer]

Also... where were the pieces of the plane that hit the pentagon???

Here is a good read for you

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

 

[dreamer]

Here is another interesting snope's articles.

I have found many websites who re-publish the conspiracy theories and make note of the stock trades as proof of those conspiracies.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp

 

[scroll99]

http://no757.batcave.net/

 

[dreamer]

I guess you did not bother reading the snopes article about how far the plane went into the building and that plane debris was found on the lawn and inside

 

[scroll99]

This one is the most interesting one so far from CNN live on 9/11

CNN: 'No evidence of a plane crashing anywhere near the Pentagon'



http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/Cnn[1].Pentagon.Jamie.Mcintyre.swf

 

[dreamer]

early CNN report, the plane was well inside the building burning up which is why the reporter could not see it

 

[scroll99]

Measurements and dimensions

The initial (pre-collapse) hole made by the alleged impact on the ground floor of Wedge One of the building is too small to admit an entire Boeing 757. In order to decide whether or not a Boeing 757 (or aircraft of comparable size) struck the Pentagon on the morning in question, a comprehensive review of all the debris and other physical evidence is hardly necessary. It turns out that a study of the wings alone suffices for the purpose.


see the pictures

http://physics911.ca/org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3

 

[dreamer]

Measurements and dimensions

The initial (pre-collapse) hole made by the alleged impact on the ground floor of Wedge One of the building is too small to admit an entire Boeing 757. In order to decide whether or not a Boeing 757 (or aircraft of comparable size) struck the Pentagon on the morning in question, a comprehensive review of all the debris and other physical evidence is hardly necessary. It turns out that a study of the wings alone suffices for the purpose.


see the pictures

http://physics911.ca/org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3

again, read the snopes article, they explain exactly what happened and how the collapse of the building changed the impact hole

 

[scroll99]

Why there isnt any pictures available from Pentagon security cameras showing a plane hitting it ?
I mean the picture of a real Boeing 757 plane ?

Do you thing that the Pentagon security cameras failed to catch it ?

 

[dreamer]

Why there isnt any pictures available from Pentagon security cameras showing a plane hitting it ?
I mean the picture of a real plane ?

Do you thing that the Pentagon security cameras failed to catch it ?

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/

however you may be right

let's see

witnesses were actually paid to describe the plane coming in, probably subsequently killed to keep the secret

the airline made up a fictionional flight 77, and of course all of the personal were subsequently killed to keep the secret

small airline debris were scattered in the pentagon burned areas and dropped on the pentagon lawn just for good measure

 

[scroll99]

I asked the question after looking at the same pictures at the security camera pictures link on right bottom side of the page

one theory I read was that ofcourse the plane was hit but was not the Boeing 757 passenger plane but a much smaller plane

 

[rogerstaubach]

My theory is that you 9/11 conspiracy nuts are truely nuts.

 

[scroll99]

Where The Pentagon Was Hit


Implications of the Part of the Pentagon Struck on September 11th

While the truth about what hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01 remains shrouded in mystery and the subject of bitter arguments among skeptics of the official account, the location of the attack is an undisputable fact: the damage was confined to the outer three rings of the building's west block, a portion of the building that was undergoing renovation scheduled for completion in mid-September of 2001.

The renovation was being undertaken on Wedge One, one of five radial sections of the building and was five days from completion when the attack occurred.


Because of the renovation, the stricken portion of the building was sparsely occupied. According to the Los Angeles Times:

It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars [and blast-resistant windows] to withstand bomb blasts.... While perhaps 4,500 people normally would have been working in the hardest-hit areas, because of the renovation work only about 800 were there.


More than half of the people listed as missing in the aftermath of the attack worked in the Pentagon's Naval Command Center, the enlarged rectangle above. Personnel were moved into this facility shortly before the attack. Were personnel in the Naval Command Center targeted by the attack?

Of the thousands of people in the building at the time of the attack, only 123 people were killed. Of those, none were high-level officials. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was safe in his office on the opposite side of the building.


The fact that the attack targeted the one portion of the building that was mostly vacant is all the more remarkable considering the approach required by the aircraft blamed for the damage.

The jetliner alleged to be American Airlines Flight 77 approached the capital from the northwest, flying over the White House before swooping down on the Pentagon.

Instead of attacking the huge building in a direct fashion, the jet executed a 270-degree descending spiral to its east, south, and southwest, losing seven thousand feet before leveling out at nearly tree-top height as it made its final approach from the southwest.


http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/location.html

 

[scroll99]

very interesting 5 minutes movie showing the blur picture of a plane from the security cameras that hit the Pentagon and the eye witness accounts



http://members.shaw.ca/freedomseven/pentagonlies.swf

 

[Rick123]

very interesting 5 minutes movie showing the blur picture of a plane from the security cameras that hit the Pentagon and the eye witness accounts



http://members.shaw.ca/freedomseven/pentagonlies.swf

Excellent link scroll!!!!!!!!!
BTW, what a weak attempt by the disinformationalist, eh? (definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation) I wonder if he gets paid for it, do you dreamer?