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China Facing Major Wife Shortage

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16593301/

Oh MSOG! Now for every man there's only one wife, now what???!!! I think we should send 20,000 more troops to China, eh? Here's a quote on MSNBC

"The tens of millions of men who will not be able to find a wife could also lead to social instability problems, the China Daily said in a front-page report."

I say, we need TERB in China!!!! Maybe CERB? No more Social Instability Problems now huh? WTF is Social Instability Problems anyway? Must be re-named to the correct problem so that everyone can understand, "Horny as Hell," "Walking with a boner," and in parts of China Hood they call these problems "Street Wanker" as oppose to their cousin Street Fighter.


Seriously, this is the consequence of their cause. Don't want any girls in the family (via selling and abortion) and now they're crying wolf. Good for you, there you go.
 

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Yep, that whole unwanted daughter thing is biting them on the ass, hopefully this will be their wake up call. Any one remember that documentary The Dying Rooms?
 

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Terb is part of the problem. All the women are coming here to work as SPs/MPs.
 

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"The tens of millions of men who will not be able to find a wife could also lead to social instability problems, the China Daily said in a front-page report."

Them horny guys can always consider the beautiful exports from their northern neighbour.
 

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This will increase the value of women, the market will prevail after all.

If they are more scarce, common sense says they'd be treated better but people are strange.
 

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If we set them up with Dominatrix type Ladies it could prevent them from taking over LOL
 

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PurpleMonkey said:
Must be re-named to the correct problem so that everyone can understand, "Horny as Hell," "Walking with a boner," and in parts of China Hood they call these problems "Street Wanker" as oppose to their cousin Street Fighter.
This is why they have the 3 dollar massage with HJ from young MPA to save society from social unrest.:D
 

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Serious Population issue in China

The One Child Policy started in 1977 (or some time late in the 1970s). When you put this into perspective about 30 million Chinese men will be without a wife in China. That my friends is about the size of the Canadian population (Canada's population is about 32 million). Quite a sad issue.
 

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It seems to be a waste of a wife to only have one guy fucking her, I think it would be more efficient for the Chinese to double up anyway. :D
 

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The one child only policy does not apply if she has twins. There is increased use of fertility drugs in china to induce multiple births.
 
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Let's not forget the mail order brides.

I thought "Mail Order Brides" is a title of a porno. They really do exist??!! Where's the catalogue? Who's hiding it dammit! Do they take Paypal??????

Gee, with so many China Women leaving their own country men hanging (not a pun, I repeat, not a pun!) I wonder if the guys will now get off their bikes and start peddling on foot to be more romantic to the ladies. I mean seriously, I don't think the Mainland Chinamen is or has been showing their attraction to the ladies as much as other cultures. C'Mon Chinese Guys on Terb help me out here. Law of attraction happens like this: "wall eye nee" (I love you), BANG BANG, "jie jeen" (goodbye). Not even a THANK YOU! Holy Shrimps, where are the manners???? To the People of the Republic of China, women need love too! They are not robots working in heated underpaid sweatshops, they are not inferior to the family last name, they are not weak, they are the future of TERB!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's have an AMEN!
 

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The Chinese govt. has tried to crack down pretty hard on discrimination against women, including the tendency for people to abort female children. In many respect Chinese women enjoy more gender equality than Canadian women do, especially in urban areas.

The female:male problem is very much a rural one, where sexist attitudes persist despite the governments many efforts to stamp them out. It is not actually clear that the one child policy is the cause of the imbalance between men and women. It may just just be that better access to reproductive technology enabled rural Chinese to select against female children. A rural chinese who prefers male children so they can work the farm may opt to abort female children no matter how many kids they have. Conceivably some families could have opted to have 7-8 male children and 0 female children without the policy, and in that case, the policy has improved the situation by making it just 1 to 0 in those cases.

Certainly there's an intuitive argument that the one child policy intensifies the problem by presenting the prosepct of having ONLY a female child, but it's not clear that it does make it worse, or if it does, how much worse than it would have been otherwise.

In any case it's also possible to trace a lot of China's current successes to the one child policy so it's an interesting if morally questionable tradeoff fo a country to make. Perhaps if there were developing countries that implemented one child policies there'd be more success stories like china?
 

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This is a result of left-wing social engineering gone awry.

The Chinese government wanted to limit the population growth by restricting families to only 1 child.

Most Chinese families preferred a boy to carry on the family name instead of a girl. Therefore, many girls that were born would meet with an accident. They would “accidentally” drown in the bath or fall down a well so the family could try again for a boy.

Now they are paying the price. They raised a generation where there aren’t enough women. Women will now be a sought after commodity.
 

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Cinema, it isn't clear they are paying a price. No doubt there WILL be a social cost from the unbalanced male to female ratio, but it could very well be a far SMALLER cost than the benefits China has enjoyed by getting its population problem under control.

Costs of the policy: Male/female imbalance, unfairness, rights violations

Benefits of policy: Prosperity, superpower status, economic development

The benefits come from being able to take the limited resources available for schooling and economic development and concentrate them on a smaller number of children, thereby increasing literacy and productivity and launching China on a path from economic backwater to economic superpower. The policy by itself isn't the only thing that turned the economy around--there were many economic reforms--but it's a part of the story. Developing nations have long struggled with their population growth problem; China thinks it found a solution for which the obvious costs are not as steep as the obvious benefits.

Sometimes the tradeoffs you face in life aren't clear cut.
 

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fuji said:
Cinema, it isn't clear they are paying a price. No doubt there WILL be a social cost from the unbalanced male to female ratio, but it could very well be a far SMALLER cost than the benefits China has enjoyed by getting its population problem under control.

Costs of the policy: Male/female imbalance, unfairness, rights violations

Benefits of policy: Prosperity, superpower status, economic development

The benefits come from being able to take the limited resources available for schooling and economic development and concentrate them on a smaller number of children, thereby increasing literacy and productivity and launching China on a path from economic backwater to economic superpower. The policy by itself isn't the only thing that turned the economy around--there were many economic reforms--but it's a part of the story. Developing nations have long struggled with their population growth problem; China thinks it found a solution for which the obvious costs are not as steep as the obvious benefits.

Sometimes the tradeoffs you face in life aren't clear cut.

Good point.

I just find the killing of little baby girls distasteful. One ones that didn't kill their own daughters were smart because now they will be a valuable commodity.
 

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fuji said:
Costs of the policy: Male/female imbalance, unfairness, rights violations

Benefits of policy: Prosperity, superpower status, economic development
Prosperity sounds like a noble goal, however, the way they are achieving it is more than questionable. Here some tidbids:

- China has 56% of the world's female suicides-and they believed that the one-child policy contributes to that statistic. Five hundred women a day commit suicide in China.

-Any woman who has more than her quota faces heavy *social compensation fees*-up to ten times the annual household income in China-and often the following: loss of employment, loss of some health care coverage and educational opportunities for her children, imprisonment, forced abortion, and legally mandated sterilization.

-Chinese and foreign media reports between 2000 and 2004 tell of tens of thousands of women being enticed by false job offers, then kidnapped, beaten, and raped until they agree to be sold as slave wives far from their homes

- China has no problem with illegitimate children since unmarried women aren't allowed to give birth. Actually, it is thought that the population of China is higher than reported due to unreported or illegetimate children.
 

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Meister said:
Prosperity sounds like a noble goal, however, the way they are achieving it is more than questionable. Here some tidbids:
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It absolutely is questionable. But, without discounting ANY of the problems you enumerate, let me point out that you can also calculate the number of people who would die, per day, if China had not achieved the prosperity it has now. In China in the 1970's and 80's when this policy was at its peak "added prosperity" did not mean an extra TV set or car. It meant not starving, teaching children to read rather than having them slave in fields, and having at least a minimally trained "barefoot doctor" in every village rather than no access to medicine at all.

What I'm saying is that from the comfort of our heated apartments with 24/7 pizza delivery, ambulence service, and small class sizes it is easy to overlook just how desperate the situation was in China when this policy was enacted.

I would agree with you--if these draconian policies were just helping a few people to a 2nd car it would be out of whack. But if it's helping people to avoid starvation, receive crucial medical care, and get a very basic education for their kids, then perhaps some fairly severe downsides are an acceptable trade-off.

One side point that does need to be mentioned -- the communist party in China, for all its fuckups, has always been an extreme advocate of women's rights, and Chinese women had equal status in China, legally, and practically, long before they did here in Canada. It is persistant rural sexist attitudes that survive despite heavy government attempts to change them that lead to the female infanticides, abortions of female children, and not some sexism on the part of the government itself. That does NOT change your argument, but it does need to be pointed out that the govt. that enacted the one child policy was a fairly pro-feminist government. China's failures politically are in the area of power-preserving repression and economic fuckups. In the realm of gender equality they took the communist notion of "to each according to their needs" and extended rights to women earlier than Western nations did.

Hence the thumping that communist nations used to deliver in the women's sports in the olympics, if you want a visible example--communist nations funded womens sports *equally* to men's sports, while Western nations generally and to some extent still do just threw a few crumbs to female athletics. The result, until we were humiliated enough by it to change our ways, was absolute Eastern Bloc dominance of all women's sporting events for several decades as we sent our untrained and unfunded amateurs to compete with their well trained, well funded professionals. You can compare male vs. female olympic results and notice that we DID hold our own in mens events, so it wasn't just across the board athletic superiority--it was OUR failure in female athletics. That attitude towards female equality was not confined to sports in China but extended throughout the culture--China used to dress men and women in the same garb, when even what people wore was centrally controlled, to push the message that women and men were equals. In part that's why today there are nearly as many Chinese female business owners as male, something we have never achieved in Canada, to take a more modern economically relevant example.

At any rate, it's true that sexist rural attitudes combined with the one child policy may be responsible for some of the imbalance. On the other hand, it may just be that women in those places would have been forced to abort female children even WITHOUT the policy--the imbalance might just be worse today if there were lots of families with 7 male children and no women. Perhaps all that changed was access to modern technology and medical procedures that enabled sexist rural chinese to find out whether they were carrying a female child and abort? Maybe the one child policy has nothing to do with it.

If you want to find govt. sponsored sexism in an asian nation try democratic, capitalist Japan which undertook NONE of the chinese govts. steps to end sexism.
 
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