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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
 
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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
And the United States invaded Iraq and many other countries.
Runs a concentration camp in Guantanamo.
Performed human experiments in Latin America.
Ran the MKULTRA program on its own citizens.
Deports people unconstitutionally without due process and defies court orders.
Appoints loyalists in the government and goes after law enforcement and others who did their jobs.
Elects a rapist and convicted felon into power.
Appoints the most unqualified people into positions of power.
Threatens to invade Greenland, Canada and Panama.
Should I go on?
 

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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
 

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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
Don't forget forced organ harvesting, the covering up of multiple tofu dreg disasters, inhumane covid lockdowns, the brutal crackdown of dissidents at home and abroad, the raping of their environment, etc.
 
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40micmic

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And the United States invaded Iraq and many other countries.
Runs a concentration camp in Guantanamo.
Performed human experiments in Latin America.
Ran the MKULTRA program on its own citizens.
Deports people unconstitutionally without due process and defies court orders.
Appoints loyalists in the government and goes after law enforcement and others who did their jobs.
Elects a rapist and convicted felon into power.
Appoints the most unqualified people into positions of power.
Threatens to invade Greenland, Canada and Panama.
Should I go on?
Sounds like a toned down version of China
 
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40micmic

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Sure, but you have to go back 100 years for that.
I'm not saying China are clean, just the US is not peaceful.
At least we can agree that china is not clean and the US hasnt had the best foreign policy track record.

But the track record of the CCP since its inception until present in my estimation is far worse. People who have not lived there can not possibly know the brutality of that regime.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Sounds like a toned down version of China
Human rights violations are human rights violations.
Using your rules we shouldn't do business with the US.
Or with the UK, due to colonialism.
Or with the Germans, because of the holocaust.
Or with the Saudis due to their Islamic extremism.
I could go on.
Doesn't make sense.
Your anti-communist argument sounds anachronistic.
 

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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
Those are internal. When did China last attack a foreign nation.
 

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Canada doesn’t have much choice and must engage a hostile POTUS and totalitarian China.
The trick for Canada will be how to walking a fine line between immediately responding to Trump’s machinations and engaging China for a more long term relationship .
 

40micmic

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Human rights violations are human rights violations.
Using your rules we shouldn't do business with the US.
Or with the UK, due to colonialism.
Or with the Germans, because of the holocaust.
Or with the Saudis due to their Islamic extremism.
I could go on.
Doesn't make sense.
Your anti-communist argument sounds anachronistic.
You should probably read unrestricted warfare. You might get a better understanding
 

nottyboi

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What about secret police stations? Flooding western markets with fentanyl? Invading Taiwan? Also internal?
The opiate epidemic was caused by the USA, notice the same is not happening in Europe? It was all started by the FDA approving oxycontin as non addictive. Taiwan is China. always has been. If they are dumb enough to declare independance they will get crushed. If they don't china will leave them alone and allow them as much time as they need. I have not heard of anything sinister done by the secret police stations, but from what I HAVE heard is the are to facilitate admin functions such as renewing Chinese drivers licenses and also allowing Chinese nationals to report crimes by international Chinese criminal syndicates that happen in Canada against Chinese nationals resident in Canada. (extortion typically)
 

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China only killed 60 million of its own people under Mao, slaughtered countless more at Tiananmen Square and runs concentration camps for Uyghurs while constantly threatening to invade Taiwan. But yeah, the U.S. is more of a threat! :LOL:
US bombs are blowing little children to pieces in Israel and Yemen. Has China threatened to coerce us economically into submission and annexation? The only country that can actually pose an actually threat to Canada is really the USA. No one else can mount a real attack over any of the three oceans with a real chance of success.
 

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You sound just like a CCP propaganda minister lol. I’m gonna repeat something I wrote to you in a previous tread regarding Taiwan and hopefully your little pink brain will be able to understand it.

Taiwan is China. always has been. If they are dumb enough to declare independance they will get crushed. If they don't china will leave them alone and allow them as much time as they need.
The PRC has not for one day held control over Taiwan. Not for a single day. The CCP’s claims over Taiwan is full of contradictions. Prior to the CCP taking power in China, your pedo leader Mao even stated that Taiwan is an independent nation. There was a time when the Qing dynasty held control over the Western part of the island, but never had any administrative control over the Eastern part of the island. Infact, the aboriginals beat them back out of the mountainous regions when they tried to spread Eastward. The Qing dynasty repeatedly admitted they have absolutely 0 administrative control over the entire island. Before the Qing dynasty, there were the Dutch and Portuguese, who gave the island the beautiful name of “Formosa.” I will share something that I thought was beautifully written by the original inhabitants of Taiwan.

“Mr. Xi Jinping, you do not know us, so you do not know Taiwan.
We are the indigenous peoples of Taiwan and have lived in Taiwan, our motherland, for more than six thousand years. We are not ethnic minorities within the so-called “Chinese nation”.
Stories told by our ancestors about the mountains, forests, grasslands, valleys, rivers, islands, and oceans of Taiwan testify that Taiwan is — and has always been — the traditional territory of the indigenous peoples on this land.
Taiwan is the sacred land where generations of our ancestors have lived and protected with their lives. It has never belonged to China.”



Furthermore, if a war broke out in Taiwan, no doubt the Taiwanese will suffer, but so will millions of Chinese who will be sacrificing their only sons (from a failed “one child policy”) to be cannon fodder. It is much easier to defend a position vs attacking it. To date, the majority of Taiwanese have voted for a status quo although I suspect if China stopped acting like a spoiled bully everytime Taiwan is mentioned as a country, the vote would be to formally declare independence.

I have not heard of anything sinister done by the secret police stations, but from what I HAVE heard is the are to facilitate admin functions such as renewing Chinese drivers licenses and also allowing Chinese nationals to report crimes by international Chinese criminal syndicates that happen in Canada against Chinese nationals resident in Canada. (extortion typically)
This has got to be the stupidest thing I’ve read in a long time lol. Secret police stations are just supposed to help with people renewing drivers license. For anyone to believe this has got to have a mental acuity of a 4 year old. Also, it is literally against the law to setup a secret police station without informing appropriate authorities to help combat perceived transnational crimes.



The opiate epidemic was caused by the USA, notice the same is not happening in Europe?
Finally, you realize the CCP is giving huge tax subsidies to companies who produce fentanyl precursors for EXPORT ONLY. This is intentional. The opiate epidemic is serious in the West, but the CCP is absolutely facilitating this in order to destroy the West for the perceived century of humiliation.
 
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nottyboi

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You sound just like a CCP propaganda minister lol. I’m gonna repeat something I wrote to you in a previous tread regarding Taiwan and hopefully your little pink brain will be able to understand it.



The PRC has not for one day held control over Taiwan. Not for a single day. The CCP’s claims over Taiwan is full of contradictions. Prior to the CCP taking power in China, your pedo leader Mao even stated that Taiwan is an independent nation. There was a time when the Qing dynasty held control over the Western part of the island, but never had any administrative control over the Eastern part of the island. Infact, the aboriginals beat them back out of the mountainous regions when they tried to spread Eastward. The Qing dynasty repeatedly admitted they have absolutely 0 administrative control over the entire island. Before the Qing dynasty, there were the Dutch and Portuguese, who gave the island the beautiful name of “Formosa.” I will share something that I thought was beautifully written by the original inhabitants of Taiwan.

“Mr. Xi Jinping, you do not know us, so you do not know Taiwan.
We are the indigenous peoples of Taiwan and have lived in Taiwan, our motherland, for more than six thousand years. We are not ethnic minorities within the so-called “Chinese nation”.
Stories told by our ancestors about the mountains, forests, grasslands, valleys, rivers, islands, and oceans of Taiwan testify that Taiwan is — and has always been — the traditional territory of the indigenous peoples on this land.
Taiwan is the sacred land where generations of our ancestors have lived and protected with their lives. It has never belonged to China.”



Furthermore, if a war broke out in Taiwan, no doubt the Taiwanese will suffer, but so will millions of Chinese who will be sacrificing their only sons (from a failed “one child policy”) to be cannon fodder. It is much easier to defend a position vs attacking it. To date, the majority of Taiwanese have voted for a status quo although I suspect if China stopped acting like a spoiled bully everytime Taiwan is mentioned as a country, the vote would be to formally declare independence.



This has got to be the stupidest thing I’ve read in a long time lol. Secret police stations are just supposed to help with people renewing drivers license. For anyone to believe this has got to have a mental acuity of a 4 year old. Also, it is literally against the law to setup a secret police station without informing appropriate authorities to help combat perceived transnational crimes.




Finally, you realize the CCP is giving huge tax subsidies to companies who produce fentanyl precursors for EXPORT ONLY. This is intentional. The opiate epidemic is serious in the West, but the CCP is absolutely facilitating this in order to destroy the West for the perceived century of humiliation.
Why is there a One China policy for decades? Taiwan has always been part of China, they have never declared independence. China will just blockade Taiwan. I doubt it will be much of a hot war. The Chinese can establish a blockade far out to sea. The planes and ships will just stop coming. 95% are Han chinese which I believe were the defeated Chinese Nationalist that went there with Chiang Kai-Shek after they were defeated by the commies.
 
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