Civil War: MAGA in Turmoil

richaceg

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You just described fascism and used it as your proof there is no fascism.
Barrack bombing Libya is ok right? You want to hear Joe Biden say narco terrorists should be dealt with where they are from...?you guys are the biggest hypocrites or maybe you just can't pull your heads out of the sand?
 

squeezer

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Barrack bombing Libya is ok right? You want to hear Joe Biden say narco terrorists should be dealt with where they are from...?you guys are the biggest hypocrites or maybe you just can't pull your heads out of the sand?

Biden was the President. What fishing boats did he have bombed, and a second missile to finish off survivors? Go ahead, I'll wait!
 

Valcazar

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Blah......blah.......blah.

Do you now admit that previous administrations also wrongfully deported US citizens, yes or no??
I never denied it.
But we're talking about Trump and his vile immigration enforcement policies and abuse of power.

I take it you've stopped pretending he isn't deporting US citizens, then?
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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I never denied it.
But we're talking about Trump and his vile immigration enforcement policies and abuse of power.

I take it you've stopped pretending he isn't doing deporting US citizens, then?
Trump hasnt intentionally deported any US citizens.
Just as I dont blame the 3,600 wrongfully deported US citizens during Obama , Bush and Clinton eras on their watch either.
These are almost always mistakes by ICE.

Feel free to like this post with another smiley, so you can delude yourself that you're winning this argument
 

Valcazar

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In that case Obama is a fascist too, because he deported more than 2.5 million people, most of whom were POC as well:
Why are you under the delusion that anyone thinks deporting people makes you a fascist?


Oh and I dont think Obama is a fascist, he was just good at deporting people
Question, why do you think Obama was so much better at deporting people than Trump, when Trump has demanded more power to do so, openly campaigned on mass deportation, and has diverted so many resources to immigration?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Are you under the impression no one disliked Obama's deportation program?
Show me a few posts of confirmed Terb Lefties who criticised Obama's deportation program, please.

I'll be waiting
 

Valcazar

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Trump hasnt intentionally deported any US citizens.
He's not targeting citizens.
He's trying to make them not citizens first.
But they are perfectly happy to deport citizens they don't want in the meantime.

Just as I dont blame the 3,600 wrongfully deported US citizens during Obama , Bush and Clinton eras on their watch either.
These are almost always mistakes by ICE.
And then the question is what do you do, as an administration, when you find out about the errors.
Also, which are actual mistakes by ICE and which are ICE deciding they can get away with "mistakes".

The US track record is very bad.
Trump has promised to be worse and acted on that as much as he has thought himself able to get away with.

Feel free to like this post with another smiley, so you can delude yourself that you're winning this argument
Oh.
I am.
You've stopped pretending he isn't deporting US citizens.
You've learned to stop being gullible about AI.
You've given up only thinking it happened if people can name specific names.

And now you've moved to "it's all fine, I'm cool with it".
The only question is whether you are cool with 3,600 combined or you are in favor of a larger number.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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He's not targeting citizens.
He's trying to make them not citizens first.
But they are perfectly happy to deport citizens they don't want in the meantime.



And then the question is what do you do, as an administration, when you find out about the errors.
Also, which are actual mistakes by ICE and which are ICE deciding they can get away with "mistakes".

The US track record is very bad.
Trump has promised to be worse and acted on that as much as he has thought himself able to get away with.



Oh.
I am.
You've stopped pretending he isn't deporting US citizens.
You've learned to stop being gullible about AI.
You've given up only thinking it happened if people can name specific names.

And now you've moved to "it's all fine, I'm cool with it".
The only question is whether you are cool with 3,600 combined or you are in favor of a larger number.
I'm glad you finally agree with me that the stupid little chart that you posted doesn't even begin to tell the big picture.

I'm glad you also agree with me that Obama wrongfully deported plenty of US citizens as well.

And Clinton, and Bush before that as well.

This is progress for you 👍
 

Phil C. McNasty

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He's not targeting citizens.
He's trying to make them not citizens first.
But they are perfectly happy to deport citizens they don't want in the meantime
Please list the US citizens that Trump deported in the meantime.

I want all their names
 

Phil C. McNasty

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And now you've moved to "it's all fine, I'm cool with it".
The only question is whether you are cool with 3,600 combined or you are in favor of a larger number
Where did I say I was cool with the illegal deportation of US citizens??

Please quote my exact post
 

squeezer

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I'm glad you finally agree with me that the stupid little chart that you posted doesn't even begin to tell the big picture.

I'm glad you also agree with me that Obama wrongfully deported plenty of US citizens as well.

And Clinton, and Bush before that as well.

This is progress for you 👍

If this is the case, why does MAGA, along with their head 🤡 , constantly accuse Democrats of supporting open borders? Phil, you can't suck and blow at the same time; choose a lane and stick with it.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Please list the US citizens that Trump deported in the meantime.

I want all their names
You don't need all their names.
All you need are answers to whether the administration has an ethno cultural agenda and whether the administration is willing to deport US citizens who are POC. The answers to both questions are a yes.
 
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