I think you know you're preaching to the choir here.LancsLad said:Or follow my solution and pick up where Wolfe's lot left off.
Coalition is rolling -- Conservatives done like dinner
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I'm sure you'll find the words.LancsLad said:
jwm
P.S. Did you also give expression to what you think of our current GG or did you wimp out like Steve would?
jwmorrice said:I'm sure you'll find the words.
jwm
P.S. Did you also give expression to what you think of our current GG or did you wimp out like Steve would?
I couldn't say what i thought as they specifically state on the site that offensive language will be deleted and posts ignored.
Of course since my email was in English the likelihood of any of her separatist operatives being able to read it makes my point moot anyway.
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She won't get your eamil anyway. Check out the website, she is touring Europe right now! How much does that cost us, do you think?
I guess with all of the concern over what is happening back home she's touring Europe to get a better understanding of how the superior European parliamentary model works.
I can picture Dion pulling up to Rideau Hall with his little deal in hand only to find Michaelle is not home. While the great masterminds of the next government worked away on their coup, she was on a chairlift in Switzerland.
What a country!
and we wonder why there are so many out of work as we slide into a depression...geez..when you look to government to have a solution in these trying times and all you get is a coalition of minds destined to destroy the political system rather than fix the problems at hand..amazes me how such a forward thinking country can berate the united states political system when we can't even manage our own mess...i hope someone gets a grip of reality soon..either way.
I guess she reads the papers. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/547134 More people should.lookingforitallthetime said:
jwm
The American system is more democratic than ours.tightfit said:
We need to separate the powers of state into elected legislative and elected executive branches. I've come to the realization Canada is too ideologically fractured for a parliamentary system to work.
Sure, papers, but The Toronto Star?jwmorrice said:
Good for her, I hope the trip wasn't a complete waste of money.
Thanks for the link.
lookingforitallthetime said:Sure, papers, but The Toronto Star?
Good for her, I hope the trip wasn't a complete waste of money.
Thanks for the link.
You can't even line a bird cage with the red star, the pages are full of sh*t to begin with.
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Sure you can.LancsLad said:
The birds will be the only ones finding an appropriate use of the paper.
It is equally true that the Conservatives did not win the election. If you don't understand that sentence think again on how Parliament works and who actually gets elected.Other Wanderer said:
In Canada, parties do not win elections. We may say that as a short-form, the media may say it, but in reality MP's individually win elections, not parties.
As someone else pointed out you are trying to impose an American view of government on the Canadian system.
Also note that our current Prime Minister is a strong supporter of coalitions of parties replacing minority governemnts. Stephen Harper laid out his view that this is the right way for Canadian democracy to work in his 2004 letter to the Governor General.
It is hard to argue that this is some how undemocratic or unconstitutional or a coup when the Conservatives themselves were formely strong advocates for the concept.
Well in reality, they didn't loose the election ... know one actually won a majority.lookingforitallthetime said:
In a Parliamentary system the only clear cut winner is the party(s) who have a majority of seats.
The Liberals and NDP did this in Ontario in 1985 and in Saskatchewan in 1999.
Countries like Israel, who have about 20+ parties, have some kind of coalition government after each election.
Cheers.
Coalition governments have worked well in Germany so I don't see a problem. Bringing in seperatists is the problem, it killed the PC's under Mulroney and it will be no different for the Liberals.
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Coalitions work when the electorate know what to expect from the parties they vote for in terms of who they will be willing to get in bed with, and what they would be willing to compromise on. This way, you don't feel duped when it happens. The Lib, NDP and Bloc coalition was being hacked out in secret even as Dion blatantly lied to Canadians about there being a coalition. That is disturbing because it indicates that the Libs and NDP were actively planning to take power REGARDLESS of the outcome of the election.Insidious Von said:
I disagree with your sentence. I would agree with it if you cut it off after the word "for".BKool said:
I am pretty sure I know what sorts of things the Liberals want to achieve. I am pretty sure I know what the NDP wants to achieve. I am pretty sure I know what the Bloc wants to achieve.
I am pretty sure that each of those parties will do their best, in the context of the coalition, to achieve the things their voters wanted.
Since they will be making compromises with one another the upshot will not be everything or even most of what any one of them wanted but I trust that each of them will be working to deliver as much of what they stand for as they can, in the context of that compromise.
If I were a Liberal voter I would think that is more of what I want than a Conservative government would deliver. I would feel the same way as an NDP or as a Bloc voter.
Only Conservative voters are going to perceive this as worse than a Conservative government--and really, they aren't part of the coalition, so perhaps the Conservative view here is irrelevant.
