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I think the circumcised look is better & ladies tend to agree ;

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Sounds like we need a to organize a cock beauty contest.

Both men and women tend to rate the sexual organs by their appearance, large or small breast, nipple size and shape, shape of the pussy lips and size of the labia (both minor and major), so it's also true for the male penis.

We are judged obviously by size and whether we're circumcised of not.

Ladies will never admit it, since it's bad for business, but it's obvious from their comments which one they prefer just from the physical aspect of it.
 

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When I put on a condom, I pull my foreskin back and slide the condom on. Once on, it looks like a circumcised cock. But when I start fucking, the condom slides forward on the out-stroke due to the foreskin moving back up over the head. I normally just hold the condom at the base with one hand to keep my foreskin/condom from moving, but I can only hold onto the girl with one hand and can't bang as hard as I want. This is very annoying!

I have read the proper way for uncut guys is to put the condom on foreskin pulled back, than push the foreskin forward again. Would this mean a bunch of loose condom is supposed to hang from the tip? I have also tried tighter fitting condoms, but that does not help when the skin moves up/done the condom will follow. :(

Any advice from uncut dudes?
Is it possible to experiament with a variety of condom brands and textures? It might not be because the condom is too big or loose, you would know, it might actually be the condom brand.

Do you put lube inside the condom? This may increase the feeling it is falling off. It is normal to feel the condom moving up and down and you are going in and out so the condom follows suit.

Hope this helps and happy condom finding. :)
 

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As an uncut, I am sad to say most women I have had this discussion with (inlcuding the Mrs.) prefer the look of cut. Much to my chagrin, I think this would be an overwhelming loss for us still in possession of our foreskins.




I agree with your overall point completely but just curious because this surprised me. Do some guys do this? Why lube inside the condom? I would fully expect the "sliding off feeling" the OP suggests, if one were to lube inside. They are already somewhat lubricated inside from what I recall (it's been probably 10 years since I last wore one) so adding lube seems bizarre to me..... or have I missed out on a great way to enhance the sensation?

I used un-lubricated condoms. I have to put lube inside to keep the dry latex from rubbing and irritating my non-keratinized glans. Think of it as rubbing a dry piece of rubber on the inside of your mouth. You can't rub dry stuff against a mucus membrane.
 

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Don't they mean vs. uncircumcised without a condom?
With or without, neither is mentioned, but what difference would it make, as long as the comparison is between both using the same method (e.g. both circ & uncirc using a latex condom).

"Consider male circumcision. There's evidence that male circumcision can help reduce a man's risk of acquiring HIV from an infected woman (heterosexual transmission) by as much as 60 percent. Male circumcision may also help prevent transmission of genital HPV and genital herpes."

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sexually-transmitted-diseases-stds/manage/ptc-20180616
 

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Sounds like we need a to organize a cock beauty contest.

Both men and women tend to rate the sexual organs by their appearance, large or small breast, nipple size and shape, shape of the pussy lips and size of the labia (both minor and major), so it's also true for the male penis.

We are judged obviously by size and whether we're circumcised of not.

Ladies will never admit it, since it's bad for business, but it's obvious from their comments which one they prefer just from the physical aspect of it.
From the website, http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/
The foreskin has twelve known functions.

They are:
  1. to cover and bond with the synechia so as to permit the development of the mucosal surface of the glans and inner foreskin.
  2. to protect the infant's glans from feces and ammonia in diapers.
  3. to protect the glans penis from friction and abrasion throughout life.
  4. to keep the glans moisturized and soft with emollient oils.
  5. to lubricate the glans.
  6. to coat the glans with a waxy protective substance.
  7. to provide sufficient skin to cover an erection by unfolding.
  8. to provide an aid to masturbation and foreplay.
  9. to serve as an aid to penetration.
  10. to reduce friction and chafing during intercourse.
  11. to serve as erogenous tissue because of its rich supply of erogenous receptors.
  12. to contact and stimulate the G-spot of the female partner.
The above list was compiled from various sources by George Hill.
Click here for more information about the skin system of the penis.

[h=2]The gliding mechanism[/h] During intercourse the loose skin of the intact penis slides up and down the shaft of the penis, stimulating the glans and the sensitive erogenous receptors of the foreskin itself. On the outstroke the glans is partially or completely engulfed by the foreskin. This is known as the `gliding mechanism.'
The gliding mechanism is Nature's intended mechanism of intercourse. As such, it contributes greatly to sexual pleasure. Also, since more of the loose skin of the penis remains inside the vagina, the woman's natural lubrication is not drawn out to evaporate to a great extent, which makes sex easier without using artificial lubricants.
The prepuce is a highly innervated and vascularized genital structure. It is entirely lined with the peripenic muscle sheet. Specialized ecoptic sebaceous glans on the inner preputial surface produce natural emollients and lubricants necessary for normal sexual function. The primary orgasmic triggers are found in the preputial orifice and frenulum. When unfolded, the prepuce is large enough to cover the length and circumference of the erect penis and acts as a natural sheath through which the shaft glides during coitus. Only the presence and functions of the prepuce allow for physiologically normal coitus to occur as designed by nature.​
(Fleiss, Paul M; Frederick Hodges. "Nontherapeutic Circumcision Should not be Performed," American Medical News, vol. 38, no. 26 (July 17, 1995): p. 16.)
[h=3]Fig. 6. The gliding mechanism[/h]
 

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With or without, neither is mentioned, but what difference would it make, as long as the comparison is between both using the same method (e.g. both circ & uncirc using a latex condom).

"Consider male circumcision. There's evidence that male circumcision can help reduce a man's risk of acquiring HIV from an infected woman (heterosexual transmission) by as much as 60 percent. Male circumcision may also help prevent transmission of genital HPV and genital herpes."

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sexually-transmitted-diseases-stds/manage/ptc-20180616

Circumcision Does Not Prevent HPV Infection, RCT Data 'Inflated,' Study Finds

http://www.intactnews.org/node/119/...infection-rct-data-039inflated039-study-finds


Circumcision and the AIDS Myth

from 2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/male-circumcision-and-the_b_249728.html



Having started among ancient Egyptians and ancient Semitic peoples as a religious sacrificial ritual, the practice didn’t take hold in Western societies until the late 1800s, when Western society was mired in masturbation-related hysteria. Dr. John Kellogg (yes, the Corn Flakes guy) was seminally (ahem) influential in the fight against what he called the “practice of solitary vice”, to prevent which he ardently recommended circumcision, writing:
“The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment, as it may well be in some cases. The soreness which continues for several weeks interrupts the practice, and if it had not previously become too firmly fixed, it may be forgotten and not resumed.”


So how do you go about conducting a randomized, controlled intervention trial looking at HIV infection in circumcised adult men? Probably not the way that these researchers did.

First, to be included in the study, men had to be HIV-negative and uncircumcised. The men also had to consent to “avoid sexual contact (except with condom protection) during the 6 weeks following the medicalized circumcision.”

The experimental group which underwent the circumcisions was given the following instructions:

“When you are circumcised you will be asked to have no sexual contact in the 6 weeks after surgery. To have sexual contact before your skin of your penis is completely healed, could lead to infection if your partner is infected with a sexually transmitted disease... If you desire to have sexual contact in the 6 weeks after surgery, despite our recommendation, it is absolutely essential that you use a condom.”
So the males in the study that underwent circumcision were not only told to abstain from sex for a significant time period after the operation — reducing their exposure time by six weeks compared to the uncircumcised (control) group — but told to use condoms, taught how to use them, and educated about their benefits. During this six week period, the men in the uncircumcised group did not have the same restrictions.
There also doesn’t seem to be any mention of the researchers calling up the circumcised men after six weeks to say, “Okay, time’s up. Ease up on the condom use from here on.” The possibility that many of these men might have become accustomed to using condoms, armed with knowledge about their benefits, didn’t seem to be much of a concern.
 

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the foreskin like the rest of human skin that covered the body have Langheran cells which are barriers to HIV


Langerin is a natural barrier to HIV-1 transmission by Langerhans cells.

de Witte L, Nabatov A, Pion M, Fluitsma D, de Jong MA, de Gruijl T, Piguet V, van Kooyk Y, Geijtenbeek TB.
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Department of Molecular Cell Biology and Immunology, VU University Medical Center, van de Boechorstraat 7, 1081BT Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
Abstract
Human immunodeficiency virus-1 (HIV-1) is primarily transmitted sexually. Dendritic cells (DCs) in the subepithelium transmit HIV-1 to T cells through the C-type lectin DC-specific intercellular adhesion molecule (ICAM)-3-grabbing nonintegrin (DC-SIGN). However, the epithelial Langerhans cells (LCs) are the first DC subset to encounter HIV-1. It has generally been assumed that LCs mediate the transmission of HIV-1 to T cells through the C-type lectin Langerin, similarly to transmission by DC-SIGN on dendritic cells (DCs). Here we show that in stark contrast to DC-SIGN, Langerin prevents HIV-1 transmission by LCs. HIV-1 captured by Langerin was internalized into Birbeck granules and degraded. Langerin inhibited LC infection and this mechanism kept LCs refractory to HIV-1 transmission; inhibition of Langerin allowed LC infection and subsequent HIV-1 transmission. Notably, LCs also inhibited T-cell infection by viral clearance through Langerin. Thus Langerin is a natural barrier to HIV-1 infection, and strategies to combat infection must enhance, preserve or, at the very least, not interfere with Langerin expression and function.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17334373

these cells are found in the epidermis of the Skin


Langerhans cells are dendritic cells (antigen-presenting immune cells) of the skin and mucosa, and contain organelles called Birbeck granules. They are present in all layers of the epidermis except the stratum corneum, which protects against infections, and are most prominent in the stratum spinosum.[2] They also occur in the papillary dermis, particularly around blood vessels,[2] as well as in the mucosa of the mouth, foreskin, and vagina.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell


circumcisions in the U.S is big business biotech and cosmetic companies need baby's foreskin to make skin graphs and cosmetic creams. why do you they and the media constantly push medical excuses for circumcisions?


Circumcision: Who Profits?
Circumcision is big business. Neonatal circumcision is the most frequently performed routine operation in the US. Doctors are collecting as much as $240 million yearly to perform 1.2 million needless operations on 1.2 million normal penises. In England, under socialized medicine when physicians were no longer compensated monetarily, the circumcision rate fell to below 0.5%.

Most parents want the operation. I can make an extra $200. Why should I try to dissuade them? —Anonymous obstetrician

And then, there are the hidden factors that raise the cost of circumcision to the healthcare industry. For example, the additional cost of the added average half-day longer hospital stay for circumcised infants is estimated between $250-550 million beyond the charges for the procedure itself. The total cost of all neonatal circumcisions annually performed in hospitals in the US is well over a billion dollars.

Circumcision is extremely profitable for the medical-industrial complex. Human foreskins are in great demand for a number of commercial enterprises, and the marketing of purloined baby foreskins is also an immensely profitable industry. Some examples: Pharmaceutical companies use foreskin in the manufacture of interferon and other drugs and international biotech corporations are procuring cells from amputated foreskins and experimenting with artificial skin. According to a report in Forbes magazine, the annual market for baby-penis-derived products could be $1 to $2 billion. And all of this without the permission of the “donor.” Biotechnology firms like Organogenesis have received fast-lane approval from the FDA for its foreskin-based Graftskin. Doctors, medico-legal experts, and bioethicists were denied the opportunity to request a full hearing and voice their concerns over the ethics of trafficking in and marketing these foreskins.

http://www.thewellspring.com/flex/m...nor-painful/2617/circumcision-who-profits.cfm

The Bizarrely Profitable Business Of Baby Foreskins

There exists a Holy Grail in the cosmetic industry to create a cream that sheds years off your skin. Scientists have discovered such a ingredient, fibroblast cells. Fibroblasts cause the skin to regrow the elasticity and elegance of youth for whoever uses a fibroblast-based cream. What is the best source for these wonder cells? Baby foreskins.

In the movie Fight Club, when Tyler Durden talks about his infamous soap made from human fat, he wasn’t making stuff up. While Tyler Durden is himself a fictional character, human fat soap is real. But making human blubber into soap isn’t where the cosmetic companies stop. No, there is a secret precursor to a lotion that guarantees youthful-looking skin. This Holy Grail for skin creams is one that recreates the smooth, wrinkle-free skin that so many lust after. And 50 percent of the population has what the cosmetic companies need. It’s not fat, but it’s another body part that some of us just want to get rid of right away: the foreskin. That’s right, the tip of the penis that is cut off in religious ceremonies throughout the world is really a fountain of youth, and actually one of the best sources of fibroblasts.

Fibroblasts are what cosmetic companies have been looking for all these years. They are the key to growing new skin and are therefore widely used for skin grafts, pasting skin transplants over sores, and other skin conditions, which makes them great for cosmetic applications. One baby foreskin can be stretched to grow almost $100,000 worth of fibroblasts.

Big names are coming out to get behind these products, including the biggest name of all, Oprah. Oprah famously endorsed one company’s lotion on her show and website as a miracle cream. The company, called SkinMedica, saw soaring profit and this prompted anti-circumcision groups to follow her around and protest her use and promotion of foreskin cream. Granted, SkinMedica’s lotion uses the cells from one original baby foreskin harvested years ago, but just think about it: With Oprah’s plug, millions of women around the world are smearing cream from the foreskin of one guy all over their faces.

SkinMedica isn’t the only company in the game. A company called Vavelta is selling fibroblast injections that help create “skin-firming protein called collagen, which becomes increasingly scarce with age.” Vavelta hopes to supersede the billion-dollar Botox industry by using a needle-based injection system of their own that involves getting 20 million fibroblast foreskin cells under the user’s skin. Even if the source of fibroblasts is a little odd, their competition is injecting toxin that can cause life-threatening botulism and makes its users look perpetually surprised, so take your pick.

Biotech and cosmetic companies depend on circumcisions to make billions of dollars
 

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Honestly it eludes me how people can't simply see circumcision is very barbaric and unnecessary. Babies black out from the shock when it's performed b/c no anesthesia is used! You're literally cutting off concentrated nerve endings for appearance and "cleanliness", even though we have access to showers.
 

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Honestly it eludes me how people can't simply see circumcision is very barbaric and unnecessary. Babies black out from the shock when it's performed b/c no anesthesia is used! You're literally cutting off concentrated nerve endings for appearance and "cleanliness", even though we have access to showers.
"The analgesics used for newborn circumcision include nonpharmacologic and pharmacologic (topical and nerve blocks) techniques. The Task Force’s review included nonnutritive sucking, a pacifier dipped in sucrose, acetaminophen, topical 4% lidocaine (ie, LMX4 cream), a eutectic mixture of lidocaine-prilocaine local anesthetic (EMLA), subcutaneous ring block, and the dorsal penile nerve block (DPNB). These methods, which reduce the pain and stress of newborn circumcision, are representative of the principles discussed in the AAP Policy Statement on Prevention and Management of Pain in the Neonate, which was updated in 2006.137,138 There are no evidence-based recommendations that state there is persistent pain that must be treated after the local preprocedure anesthetic wears off.

"Analgesia is safe and effective in reducing the procedural pain associated with newborn circumcision, as indicated by changes in heart rate, oxygen saturation, facial action, crying, and other measures.139–145 Therefore, adequate analgesia should be provided when newborn circumcision is performed. Topical 4% lidocaine, DPNB, and a subcutaneous ring block are all effective options, although the latter may provide the most effective analgesia. In addition there is good evidence that infants circumcised without analgesia exhibit a stronger behavioral pain response to subsequent routine immunization at 4 to 6 months of age, compared with both infants circumcised with analgesia and with uncircumcised infants.145

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/e756.full

"For adults and children, general anesthesia is an option..."

http://www.newyorkurologyspecialists.com/circumcision/anesthesia/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision
 
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