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Conservative newspaper - Cincinatti Enquirer - endorses Clinton. Excellent editorial

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The endorsement of Clinton by a conservative newspaper, that has backed the Republican party for 100 years straight should say something. It is full of truth, and makes me happy to know that not all conservatives are right-wing nuts. There are decent conservatives out there.

Kasich, for example has refused to endorse Trump, even under pressure from GOP leaders. He is principled enough that he won't sacrifice his values for political gain. Contrast this to the whore Chris Christie who would suck Trump's cock to further his career. Kasich is also one of the few Republicans who thinks climate control is real and action should be taken.

Here is the full endorsement:presidential elections should be about who’s the best candidate, not who’s the least flawed. Unfortunately, that’s not the case this year.

Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton, the most unpopular pair of presidential candidates in American history, both have troubled relationships with truth and transparency. Trump, despite all of his bluster about wanting to “make America great again,” has exploited and expanded our internal divisions. Clinton’s arrogance and unwillingness to admit wrongdoing have made her a divisive and distrusted figure as well.

The Enquirer has supported Republicans for president for almost a century – a tradition this editorial board doesn’t take lightly. But this is not a traditional race, and these are not traditional times. Our country needs calm, thoughtful leadership to deal with the challenges we face at home and abroad. We need a leader who will bring out the best in all Americans, not the worst.

That’s why there is only one choice when we elect a president in November: Hillary Clinton.

Enquirer editor: Why we're endorsing for president

Clinton is a known commodity with a proven track record of governing. As senator of New York, she earned respect in Congress by working across the aisle and crafting bills with conservative lawmakers. She helped 9/11 first responders get the care they needed after suffering health effects from their time at Ground Zero, and helped expand health care and family leave for military families. Clinton has spent more than 40 years fighting for women's and children's rights. As first lady, she unsuccessfully fought for universal health care but helped to create the Children's Health Insurance Program that provides health care to more than 8 million kids today. She has been a proponent of closing the gender wage gap and has stood up for LGBT rights domestically and internationally, including advocating for marriage equality.

Trump is a clear and present danger to our country. He has no history of governance that should engender any confidence from voters. Trump has no foreign policy experience, and the fact that he doesn't recognize it – instead insisting that, "I know more about ISIS than the generals do" – is even more troubling. His wild threats to blow Iranian ships out of the water if they make rude gestures at U.S. ships is just the type of reckless, cowboy diplomacy Americans should fear from a Trump presidency. Clinton has been criticized as being hawkish but has shown a measured approach to the world's problems. Do we really want someone in charge of our military and nuclear codes who has an impulse control problem? The fact that so many top military and national security officials are not supporting Trump speaks volumes.

Clinton, meanwhile, was a competent secretary of state, with far stronger diplomatic skills than she gets credit for. Yes, mistakes were made in Benghazi, and it was tragic that four Americans lost their lives in the 2012 terror attacks on the U.S. consulate there. But the incident was never the diabolical conspiracy that Republicans wanted us to believe, and Clinton was absolved of blame after lengthy investigations. As the nation's top diplomat, Clinton was well-traveled, visiting numerous countries and restoring U.S. influence internationally. She was part of President Barack Obama's inner circle when the decision was made to go after and kill Osama bin Laden and negotiated U.N. sanctions that led to the Iran nuclear deal.


Her presidential campaign has been an inclusive one, reflected by the diversity of her supporters. She has even moved to the left on health care, expressing a willingness to consider Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer "Medicare for all" health care plan. Clinton has talked about building bridges, not walls, and has a plan to keep immigrant families together with a path to citizenship.

We have our issues with Clinton. Her reluctance to acknowledge her poor judgment in using a private email server and mishandling classified information is troubling. So is her lack of transparency. We were critical of her 275-day streak without a press conference, which just ended this month. And she should have removed herself from or restructured the Clinton Foundation after allegations arose that foreign entities were trading monetary donations for political influence and special access.

But our reservations about Clinton pale in comparison to our fears about Trump.

This editorial board has been consistent in its criticism of his policies and temperament beginning with the Republican primary. We've condemned his childish insults; offensive remarks to women, Hispanics and African-Americans; and the way he has played on many Americans' fears and prejudices to further himself politically. Trump brands himself as an outsider untainted by special interests, but we see a man utterly corrupted by self-interest. His narcissistic bid for the presidency is more about making himself great than America. Trump tears our country and many of its people down with his words so that he can build himself up. What else are we left to believe about a man who tells the American public that he alone can fix what ails us?

While Clinton has been relentlessly challenged about her honesty, Trump was the primary propagator of arguably the biggest lie of the past eight years: that Obama wasn't born in the United States. Trump has played fast and loose with the support of white supremacist groups. He has praised some of our country's most dangerous enemies – see Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un and Saddam Hussein – while insulting a sitting president, our military generals, a Gold Star family and prisoners of war like Sen. John McCain. Of late, Trump has toned down his divisive rhetoric, sticking to carefully constructed scripts and teleprompters. But going two weeks without saying something misogynistic, racist or xenophobic is hardly a qualification for the most important job in the world. Why should anyone believe that a Trump presidency would look markedly different from his offensive, erratic, stance-shifting presidential campaign?

Some believe Trump's business acumen would make him the better choice to move America's slow recovery into a full stride. It’s true that he has created jobs, but he also has sent many overseas and left a trail of unpaid contractors in his wake. His refusal to release his tax returns draws into question both Trump’s true income and whether he is paying his fair share of taxes. Even if you consider Trump a successful businessman, running a government is not the same as being the CEO of a company. The United States cannot file bankruptcy to avoid paying its debts.

Trump’s rise through a crowded Republican primary field as well as Sanders' impressive challenge on the Democratic side make clear that the American people yearn for a change in our current state of politics. However, our country needs to seek thoughtful change, not just change for the sake of change. Four years is plenty of time to do enough damage that it could take America years to recover from, if at all.

In these uncertain times, America needs a brave leader, not bravado. Real solutions, not paper-thin promises. A clear eye toward the future, not a cynical appeal to the good old days.

Hillary Clinton has her faults, certainly, but she has spent a lifetime working to improve the lives of Americans both inside and outside of Washington. It's time to elect the first female U.S. president – not because she's a woman, but because she's hands-down the most qualified choice.
 

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This editorial completely lost me when it stated Clinton was a competent Secretary of State. By all measures she was one of the poorest - look no further than Libya or Syria. She would be an absolute disaster as POTUS basically extending the Obama agenda for 4 more years.

The editorial talks about Trump being divisive yet they fail to acknowledge that right now the US has never been more divisive in it's history. They fail to acknowledge that the reason why Trump is so popular is because of this divisiveness and people's absolute disgust with the current political system. A system so broken that it can't even pass simple no brainer legislation like Kate's Law.
 

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True conservatives are very comfortable with Neocon Hillary, they are comforted in the knowledge that her newly found liberal leanings to fool weak minded "progressives" will vanish as soon as she's elected and Paul Ryan will protect the purse.

Her greatest strengths are her lack of self awareness and that she doesn't believe in anything but power, the CE will like the whore pragmatism of that.
 

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IM469

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This editorial completely lost me when it stated Clinton was a competent Secretary of State. By all measures she was one of the poorest - look no further than Libya or Syria. She would be an absolute disaster as POTUS basically extending the Obama agenda for 4 more years.

The editorial talks about Trump being divisive yet they fail to acknowledge that right now the US has never been more divisive in it's history. They fail to acknowledge that the reason why Trump is so popular is because of this divisiveness and people's absolute disgust with the current political system. A system so broken that it can't even pass simple no brainer legislation like Kate's Law.
It is brilliant and succinct - I think they lost you when not when they acknowledged Hillary's flaws but when they consistently exposed the many dangers of Trump as a potential president. What they are pointing out is that Trumps popularity is based on exploiting and expanding those divisions instead of trying to repair them which is why he is popular with KKK and other bigoted organizations.

Of the many, many flaws that they point out with Trump - I did like this passage: 'Even if you consider Trump a successful businessman, running a government is not the same as being the CEO of a company. The United States cannot file bankruptcy to avoid paying its debts.'

How true - how true !
 

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Would you prefer the endorsement of out-of-date media like newspapers or the endorsement of military brass, the police, border patrol, blue collar workers?
The border patrol or I.C.E. is NOT endorsing Trump, that's just another one of his lies!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ustoms-enforcement-did-not-endorse-trump.html

If you keep believing Trump lies, soon you won't be living in reality! Trump also said, the CBS poll had him winning the debate, well CBS didn't even conduct a debate poll.
 

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It is brilliant and succinct - I think they lost you when not when they acknowledged Hillary's flaws but when they consistently exposed the many dangers of Trump as a potential president. What they are pointing out is that Trumps popularity is based on exploiting and expanding those divisions instead of trying to repair them which is why he is popular with KKK and other bigoted organizations.

Of the many, many flaws that they point out with Trump - I did like this passage: 'Even if you consider Trump a successful businessman, running a government is not the same as being the CEO of a company. The United States cannot file bankruptcy to avoid paying its debts.'

How true - how true !
Yeah, filing for bankruptcy in order to avoid paying workers has been Trump's M.O., but that won't work as President.
 

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Yeah, filing for bankruptcy in order to avoid paying workers has been Trump's M.O., but that won't work as President.
If Trump can't declare bankruptcy to avoid debts and must pay taxes on the $650 million + president wages .. how can the white house look like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/08/20/2FD9465400000578-3390812-image-a-51_1452283969158.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polop...rivatives/article_750/trumphomes28n-5-web.jpg

Yup, just one of those hard working individuals that can relate to the average Joe's problems .... at least those with them colored folk and Muslims !
 

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This editorial completely lost me when it stated Clinton was a competent Secretary of State. By all measures she was one of the poorest - look no further than Libya or Syria. She would be an absolute disaster as POTUS basically extending the Obama agenda for 4 more years.

The editorial talks about Trump being divisive yet they fail to acknowledge that right now the US has never been more divisive in it's history. They fail to acknowledge that the reason why Trump is so popular is because of this divisiveness and people's absolute disgust with the current political system. A system so broken that it can't even pass simple no brainer legislation like Kate's Law.
Do you think that she should have gone out there with all guns blazing to sort out that complex problem? The previous Presidents failed in some way or the other. Look at the previous Bush administration and their total failure in Iraq. His father did the right thing by not making a unilateral decision to push the Iraqis out of Kuwait. He did it with the UN and the allies in the region. However, he was accused of not getting the job done by not invading Iraq and overthrowing Hussein at that time. But you do not give Clinton any credit for taking out Osama Bin Laden. Wonder why that is not taken into account?

Trump has created a cult. Look at the peasants who support him and think that Obama was "born outside of the USA", is a "Maaslim" and "hates America". They believe such ignorant nonsense. These are the people that stand side by side with the KKK. Whether the Americans like it or not, they are a nation of different races, religions, and cultures. The divisiveness under Trump will be even more stark as segregation will be a preferable way of life that Trumpty Dumpty sees as a future and calls making America great again. It will be a disaster that will affect us Canadians in the long run.
 

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Would you prefer the endorsement of out-of-date media like newspapers or the endorsement of military brass, the police, border patrol, blue collar workers?
In most Western nations the police and military do not get involved with politics and do not show their support for any political parties. The military in the USA is split as many generals support Clinton. Blue collar workers do not generally support Trump. The majority that do are White, while the others support Clinton. The white collar workers and more educated generally support Clinton, as do a large number of students in Universities. At the end of the day, only the final vote will matter.
 

mjg1

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The border patrol or I.C.E. is NOT endorsing Trump, that's just another one of his lies!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ustoms-enforcement-did-not-endorse-trump.html

If you keep believing Trump lies, soon you won't be living in reality! Trump also said, the CBS poll had him winning the debate, well CBS didn't even conduct a debate poll.
Another major conservative newspaper is not endorsing Trump. Not one major conservative newspaper is endorsing Trump yet.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/29/detroit-news-gary-johnson-endorsement/91260088/
 
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