Controversial Prof. dies embroiled in a race discussion back in the 80's
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Completly agree with his conclusions (Being a Brown guy, and know this to be true).
Here's what another scientist has written about the Black chappies:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/10/18/science.race/index.html
Uh...the guy didn't write anything, he made an off the cuff comment (in your link). Nice effort though.
I agree that his work was debunked, and I am not shedding a tear for him either.
The thing I did respect about him is that he at least tried to play within the bounds of science and took his lumps pretty well.
I was at Western at the time of all the controversy. I remember it quickly became more about acadmic integrity vs political correctness. The ridiculousness of the subject itself was quickly overshadowed by strident protests and denunciations.
You might like this article by Rushton.
Indians Aren't That Intelligent (On Average)
http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average
Not really, I don't disagree with his view on Blacks, but on his analysis of Indians. For example, he includes studies that lump North Africans, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Gypsies, Turks and Morrocans, The Roma (European Indian Gypsies living in Europe) and the Near East, and calls this "South Asian". Nowhere does he compare westernized Indian IQs to their Westernized counterparts. I'm sure if you compared Gypsies to those with a university degree based on IQ, you're likely to see a major difference, I also believe that when you lump Iran, Iraq, Turkey, North Africa, Turks and Morrocans with South Asia (which they're not), you're going to confound your results.
No worries though. I have consistently an IQ of around 120, and know that Indians are some of the smartest minds on the planet. Just look at how many Nobel Laureates are Indian, what the Nobel prize committee thought of Mahatma Ghandi, and the fact that we invented the number system, taught the Chinese martial arts, created yoga and Ayurvedic medicine, and the oldest religion, pre-dating Christianity by a couple thousand years. I'd say we did pretty good
Not really, I don't disagree with his view on Blacks, but on his analysis of Indians. For example, he includes studies that lump North Africans, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Gypsies, Turks and Morrocans, The Roma (European Indian Gypsies living in Europe) and the Near East, and calls this "South Asian". Nowhere does he compare westernized Indian IQs to their Westernized counterparts. I'm sure if you compared Gypsies to those with a university degree based on IQ, you're likely to see a major difference, I also believe that when you lump Iran, Iraq, Turkey, North Africa, Turks and Morrocans with South Asia (which they're not), you're going to confound your results.
No worries though. I have consistently an IQ of around 120, and know that Indians are some of the smartest minds on the planet. Just look at how many Nobel Laureates are Indian, what the Nobel prize committee thought of Mahatma Ghandi, and the fact that we invented the number system, taught the Chinese martial arts, created yoga and Ayurvedic medicine, and the oldest religion, pre-dating Christianity by a couple thousand years. I'd say we did pretty good
So, Rushton was a filthy racist for reviewing the scientifically-obtained statistics that show some races have a higher IQ average than some other races -- as in his tight definition.
You, on the other hand, are a righteous NON-racist when you state, entirely without scientific proof of any kind, that your race is smarter.
So, no. I never said he was a filthy racist. I agree with his point of view on Black people. I do think they are stupider. I am also not proving or disproving anything here, so I have no need to provide scientific proofs for agreeing with them, I do.
His arguments on Indian people are not scientifically "tight" as you so eloquently stated. I have outlined the reasons why above in my previous post.
You wouldn't happen to be Black now would you? (if you're a little slow, that's my way of calling you idiotic and stupid
)I probably should state that I don't believe Black people are stupider for genetic reasons. I think their stupidity is a result of idiotic parenting and failing to provide their kids with an educational environment with which to succeed. I think the Black community behaves in a really idiotic way, and this is the result of their self inflicted stupidity. Apart from Barack Obama, their role models are Lil Wayne and Drake. Fools.
All one has to do is to looking at the ethnic makeup of the top students in Ontario or California high school and university graduating classes. There have even been "blind" tests that proved his theory. Political correctness prevents me from sayng more.
Since your posting history shines brightly on its own, no need to worry. Few on here need to guess about you or be afraid.
Since you know of these tests can you provide a reference for us, not that you ever have before to back your outrageous insights. Intelligence is a complex thing, not purely biological. You really are a piece of work.
rld will conveniently avoid replying to you. In fact, he won't post in this thread again.
So his comments on the extremely diverse group of 'blacks' is okay yet his views on the extremely diverse group of 'South Asians' is wrong? I think that tells all we need to know about your views.
As for many smart Indians, could that have anything to do with there being a billion of them? As the saying goes, if you're one in a million, there's a thousand people just like you.
