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Kurt

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What on earth are you talking about???

A criminal record check only comes back if you have been convicted of a crime. Hence the term "criminal record".

It doesn't come back saying "well, he's never been convicted of a crime, but he's been arrested because he jaywalked once". In fact, even if you were criminally charged before but beat the charge, or the charge was dropped, your records comes back clean.

Don't give people advice if you don't know what your talking about.

They only time this would come up, is most LE agencies share info. If he was trying to get into the U.S, and a U.S Boarder Security Agent questioned him for some reason because they will see it, and he lied about it, they might not let him in the country for the mere fact he lied to them.

This is a black and white issue, either he did something and is not telling his uncle the truth, or he's clean like he claims, and it's someone else with the same name and it's mistaken identity.

This actually happened at a place I worked at. The place required criminal background checks. They did a check on a new hire and it came back with a record. The guy knew it wasn't him and impossible, so the company that we contracted to do our criminal record checks had to do some digging. It turned out to be some guy with the same name out in BC or some shit.
Not always in doing a criminal check for someone it came back with information that the person had been cleared of but as someone above stated the division where it happened was never informed to remove the information - even an arrest without a conviction can show up. especially for volunteer screening. The problem has to do with dated database and incomplete process
 

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First off. It isn't a criminal record check. It is a criminal Background check.
Second. The companies that do this pay the police service for the information, and you sign a consent form giving them the right to get this information from them.
Third. Depending on how deep the company wants to go, they can ask the police service for anything and everything they have on a person. Convictions, arrests, interactions, anything the police have, and the police will give it to them because you have signed a consent form authorizing them to do so.
So these criminal background checks can very well contain any information the police have on an individual. Not just their convictions.
 
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Gsh

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I would contact a good criminal lawyer and follow his advice.

Yes, it will cost you. But this type of thing is worth spending money on and not half-assing. Getting your criminal record (or tax records, or any other government record) straightened out is not a luxury, it's an essential in modern society.
 

funstick

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More bad advice here. Americans are quite liberal about letting you into there country, even if it shows you been arrested before. In fact, even if you have a criminal record they sometimes still let you in depending on the crime. For example, if you have a DUI, the U.S will still generally let you in, despite the fact Canada doesn't allow Americans in if they have a DUI.

DO NOT TRY TO HIDE ANY OF THIS. Be honest with them. If they catch you lying, or think your trying to hide something, that's when they get pissed and probably won't let you in. Not saying you have to voluntarily tell the agent stuff, but just be honest and answer the questions and explain.
Ok I withdraw my comment and suggest your nephew gets advice from a knowledgeable source that he can trust. I was simply paraphrasing some of the things I learned from people I know well who have trouble crossing the border for minor offenses committed decades ago. In both cases they received conditional discharges and obtained pardons but have to obtain USA Entry Waivers each time they want to enter the US. Both have received ample legal advice. I should know better than to post on this type of thing. Good luck to your nephew.
 
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black booty lover

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Your criminal record contains all kinds of information, including information related to non-convictions. This could include anything from police contact to criminal charges that were dropped.

When someone requests a criminal record check on you, the police may release this information. So when you apply for that job that requires a criminal record check, and it has fingerprints on file, they will know that you were charged with a crime. They will deny you the opportunity or call you up and ask why you have fingerprints on file.

The fact that you have fingerprints on file communicates to the world that you were charged with a crime.

Your criminal record contains all kinds of information, including information related to non-convictions. This could include anything from police contact to criminal charges that were dropped.

When someone requests a criminal record check on you, the police may release this information. So when you apply for that job that requires a criminal record check, and it has fingerprints on file, they will know that you were charged with a crime. They will deny you the opportunity or call you up and ask why you have fingerprints on file.

The fact that you have fingerprints on file communicates to the world that you were charged with a crime.

Not always in doing a criminal check for someone it came back with information that the person had been cleared of but as someone above stated the division where it happened was never informed to remove the information - even an arrest without a conviction can show up. especially for volunteer screening. The problem has to do with dated database and incomplete process

Very rare circumstances. Only certain types of companies would end up getting that info. If your applying for a volunteer position that deals with kids, or maybe and LE agency possibly. Almost no other companies for that reason get access to it. It's personal info and other places can get in trouble including LE for wrongfully disclosing it.
 

black booty lover

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I would contact a good criminal lawyer and follow his advice.

Yes, it will cost you. But this type of thing is worth spending money on and not half-assing. Getting your criminal record (or tax records, or any other government record) straightened out is not a luxury, it's an essential in modern society.

Noooo, he shouldn't....lol. Stop giving this guy bad advice and having him or his nephew waste money.

There's no need for a lawyer here for fuck sakes..lol.

If the kid has not been convicted of a crime he has nothing to worry about.
 
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black booty lover

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Literally all the guy has to do is right here:

Non-conviction information
Your file in the National Repository of Criminal Records may include conviction and/or non-conviction records.

Non-conviction refers to police charging you with a crime, but you weren't convicted. This includes withdrawn or dismissed charges, and stays of proceedings.

You may request the destruction of non-conviction information.

Requesting the destruction of non-conviction information
To request the destruction of non-conviction information you need to apply to the police service or RCMP detachment that laid the original charge. If they approve your request, they will contact us to request the destruction of the information.

We may refuse to destroy the non-conviction information if you were found not criminally responsible, we keep this non-conviction record for at least five years.

To appeal this decision, you can email CCRTIS at CCRTIS-SCICTR@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.
 
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black booty lover

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l. It says that his birth date and fingerprints match a person with a C.R. He is devestated as he was planing to apply to RMC next year.

I don't know what the RMC is, but anyway, It's either one of two things:

1) He has been finger printed before and he's not telling the truth

or

2) It's some kind of crazy mistaken identity. I did see this happen once as I mentioned, very rare but it can happen. I worked at a place where criminal background check was required. They were doing a background check on a potential new hire, and as rare and crazy as it might sound, there was another guy in Canada with same name and age I think, but he was out in BC. Since the guy applying for a job knew it wasn't him, he made it clear and it all got straightened out.

Anyway, my previous posts tells you all you need to do.
 

bluecolt

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I don't know what the RMC is, but anyway, It's either one of two things:

1) He has been finger printed before and he's not telling the truth

or

2) It's some kind of crazy mistaken identity. I did see this happen once as I mentioned, very rare but it can happen. I worked at a place where criminal background check was required. They were doing a background check on a potential new hire, and as rare and crazy as it might sound, there was another guy in Canada with same name and age I think, but he was out in BC. Since the guy applying for a job knew it wasn't him, he made it clear and it all got straightened out.

Anyway, my previous posts tells you all you need to do.
RMC is Royal Military College. He probably wants to earn a degree and become an officer in he Canadian Armed Forces.
 
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spankingman

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I don't know what the RMC is, but anyway, It's either one of two things:

1) He has been finger printed before and he's not telling the truth

or

2) It's some kind of crazy mistaken identity. I did see this happen once as I mentioned, very rare but it can happen. I worked at a place where criminal background check was required. They were doing a background check on a potential new hire, and as rare and crazy as it might sound, there was another guy in Canada with same name and age I think, but he was out in BC. Since the guy applying for a job knew it wasn't him, he made it clear and it all got straightened out.

Anyway, my previous posts tells you all you need to do.
Royal Military College in Kingston.
 
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