Could be some localized microburst. From all the data the plane was on a relatively stable approach to the runway. For its sink rate to increase so dramatically would require some sort of dramatic wind change. The attitude of the plane looked ok, just its sink rate was far to high at the end even though it was in a flare.
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There's another video that I have seen which I wont post. I will let you guys find it on your own. I noticed the Pilot didn't flare. What does flare mean? You can google it. Landed runway 23? Wind was 270 @ 28 gusting 38. That's a good wind. 40 degrees off the right. Looks like it was slammed pretty hard onto the runway. The aircraft looked crabbed into wind but did not execute a flare. Clean runway. CRFI ( Canadian runway friction index ) appears not to be a factor.
The attitude of the plane when compared to other CRJ landings seem quite normal but the sink rate is very high
Looks like a bad landing by the pilot.x.com
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It's crazy they even let planes land in this weather, because he probably couldn't see the runway at all
Looks like pilot error from everything I've read. And expert said he went through the audio logs and no other pilots reported poor landing conditions while landing around the same time. Another said the same thing about flaring which seems to mean they landed flat or nose down like in the video instead of nose slightly up.
Plane crashes are rarely problems with the planes.
Plane crashes are rarely problems with the planes.
I think this is the clearest footage.
Looks like the right landing gear broke?
You realize there's 100,000 commercial flights per day. There's been 5 crashes or so in 4,500,000 flights since January 1st, crash percentage of .000001111%.
well at least with planes, you can't be behind the wheel without the flying hours, certificate to back it up...have you seen our streets lately? there's a few out there I doubt can read traffic signs.
Don't pilots know absolutely everything about the plane and get some kind of notification early? Then they notify air traffic control about a possible crash landing where firefighters are waiting? Looks like a crash landing.
I'm not sure, I think they know when the wheels don't lower, but if there's a defect they might not know. But the wheels look like they're down on the video.
You're moving the goal posts.
Before you said that crashes are rarely because of faults with the planes. Now you are talking about how safe it is to fly. We know that. The question is that when accidents do happen is it because of the plane itself or some other reason?
I pointed that that Boeing has been blamed big time for problems with their planes affecting the safety. Do you disagree that they lost billions in revenue and stock price because of safety issues with their planes? So, when accidents do happen, it is wrong to say that it is rarely because of problems with the plane.
You'll rarely meet a pilot who's ever been nervous on a plane. Boeing had a door fly off but overall few crashes. Crashes are beyond miniscule in commercial airlines. DC was pilot error, this one looked to be too. Millions of flights happen without incident. Even during crazy turbulence pilots just look for a better route.
They never do crash. Even the poorest countries in the world have airplanes that don't crash. Planes are so advanced now that everything is monitored. There's 38,000,000 flights and year ffs.
Boeing has faced a number of safety issues, including fatal crashes, a door plug blowout,
Fatal crashes
Two Boeing 737 Max crashes in 2018 and 2019 killed 346 people. The crashes were caused by a faulty flight control software.
Door plug blowout
In January 2024, a door plug blew out of an Alaska Airlines 737 Max shortly after takeoff. The incident sparked an FAA investigation that found the plane left the factory without the four bolts needed to hold the door plug in place.
3 crashes in 7 years caused by defects in one particular airline is hardly very few. And once again we've already acknowledged that flying is quite safe. There's no need to keep repeating that.
What we are talking about is your statement that when a crash does happen it is rarely due to a problem with the airplane. I don't think that is accurate and I am using Boeing as an example to support my point. I wonder how many other crashes there were of Boeing planes in that same time frame but they were not due to problems with the plane. Then we'd know if it's rare or not but just for Boeing.
If there were 10 crashes, then defects of a Boeing plane would be the cause 30% of the time.
