Do you guys use burner phones or apps for this hobby?
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It's a second line on your existing phone. When you set it up, you can choose your user name etc. It is a legit phone number and works over either wifi or cell networks (but as cellular data). If you google the number, it shows up as the name you set.
$9.95 US a month, on your cc.
I had a burner phone before but it was more expense than I could justify. Plus, the whole second phone thing. Just ask Walter White about the shit that can cause.
I should perhaps add that I don't do this to be deceptive with "known ladies". If I am booking with an indie lady especially, I will happily disclose whatever information they need to be comfortable. I do it for casual inquiries with BP numbers etc.
And... given that escorts seem to lose their phones about once every 10 days, I question whether their treatment of client information is PIPEDA compliant... I just generally don't want my real cell out there in unknown places, since it ties directly to me very easily.
It's a second line on your existing phone. When you set it up, you can choose your user name etc. It is a legit phone number and works over either wifi or cell networks (but as cellular data). If you google the number, it shows up as the name you set.
$9.95 US a month, on your cc.
I had a burner phone before but it was more expense than I could justify. Plus, the whole second phone thing. Just ask Walter White about the shit that can cause.
I should perhaps add that I don't do this to be deceptive with "known ladies". If I am booking with an indie lady especially, I will happily disclose whatever information they need to be comfortable. I do it for casual inquiries with BP numbers etc.
And... given that escorts seem to lose their phones about once every 10 days, I question whether their treatment of client information is PIPEDA compliant... I just generally don't want my real cell out there in unknown places, since it ties directly to me very easily.
Is it? I understood that most of those free apps are easily recognized my call recipients. This one is not...
Didn't have my phone on me and couldn't remember what it was called at the time because I downloaded it years ago. It's called Hushed.
I get it and last thing I want is for any young lady doing this job to feel unsafe or be assaulted in any way but the same has to be extended to this side of the fence. Perhaps my dealings 4 years ago has made me more paranoid about a lady having my real information.
I use to see a lady on a regular basis which I will not disclose as she's no longer in the business from what I can gather. Once a week for 90 minute sessions and then we would go out for dinner and a movie off the clock. I never had to pay social time, I would just pay for the bedroom 90 minute sessions. I met her while she was working at an agency. I probably seen her 4 times through the agency until she decided to go independant. She raised her rates but contacted me on my fongo line (she believed it was my real number and she believed she had my real name) and offered me grandfathered rates at the $250 agency rate and to come see her but be the last of the day because she wanted to hang out afterwards. I was more than happy to oblige and so this went on for maybe 3 months or so. 90 minutes paid then off to dinner and sometimes a movie which I gladly paid for the evening but of course no social fee. I began to get bored and slowly it was down from once a week to twice a month, then once a month and then I stopped calling all together. Fastforward a couple of months and I get a text to please call her which I do. The conversation starts off friendly asking where have I been? Why haven't I been to see her? I explained that I wasn't feeling it for now but maybe in a few months I'll book her again. This was where it went completly off the rails. She starts threatening with I know who you are and where to find you and to leave someone who has bills to pay without any notice, how dare I? I should at the very least send her some money because of all the time she spent with me? I'm like excuse me, you wanted to go out after the sessions, I didn't ask you? Then the threats started once again and I just hung up, changed my fongo number and went merrily on my way. Imagine if she was given my real identity , I would have been regretting the day we met. A lady who we spent many many great times together, laughing , eating , drinking and then poof, it was something like a Jeckyl and Hydge scenario. That was a lesson learned, so yes I'm very very careful about discretion and when I see this push to divulge personal information it makes me think back and I can see the trains coming off the track in some instances.
Then you should be able to understand why I now require references, etc. and won't accept an app without them. The exception to this is if you contacted me in the past using a real cell and I can verify it, then I'll gladly switch to app. use with you.
Unlike you, I was actually outed in two separate ways on two separate occasions, once with major consequences to me, by an anonymous coward. Couple that with the fact that I now work from my home, unlike before . This is why I started asking for additional assurance after the move. I don't do it because I get off making you jump through hoops. In fact, I still took app'ts via a phone call even after that stressful incident as I was working from a condo. I'm able to see your side, can you see mine? Empathy is a virtue. Please stop slagging our practices every chance you get as you seem to be coming from a very biased position and may unduly negatively influence others.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I long for the simpler days of the past, but all too often good things must come to pass.
As others have said, Speakout 7/11 phone is a good way to go. I recently misplaced, ok lost my burner phone. Went to 7/11 picked up another phone and sim card, called Speakout and was back up and running within a few hours. Same number. I don't have to worry if I leave it behind. Plus you purchase a certain amount of value in my case $50 which is good for up to a year. No monthly fees! You can track this on the Speakout website and when you're close to the limit, purchase more time at 7/11 and the clock is reset. Texting and the occasional call, $50 for me is good for 7-8 months.
I've never slagged your practices or anyone elses. I've never named names and I have said all have a right to run their business as they see fit but this is a review board which is here to help clients find the best fit for them. I don't believe I'm doing anything wrong stating the fact that there are choices and what can happen when one's true identity is breached.
I will take it a step further and again this is only my opinion. This is a double edge sword for me because I do enjoy the practice but I worry about discretion. I tend to avoid sp's that show their faces in their ads and some are downright beautiful and tempting but for me, they've thrown discretion out the window for themselves why would they care about mine? Yes, I know I'm paranoid but it is what it is and thankfully I have many many to choose from so I'll live with my paranoia.
p.s. I think you're a wonderful provider Sophia and I'm glad I had the opportunity to spend time with you when things were the way the were. I truly do wish you great success and above all a safe career.
I read this yesterday and wanted to respond but just didn't have the time. I thank you for bringing context to this by sharing your story. I didn't understand why you seemed so strong-minded about this subject and now I do.
I am very sorry this happened to you. That is 100% wrong on so many levels. I agree that some in this industry make it harder for others. This is a perfect example.
From the other side of the coin, many women have been raped, robbed, etc. In and outside of this industry. I have never been raped by a client, but I have been raped by a man. I don't hold all men accountable for what 1 man did, however. I think you may be doing that. Maybe even subconsciously. I don't know, and if you are, I can still say I understand why you would. Your experience drives your opinions. Of course, they would. I just think it goes a little further with the frustration you experienced and I explain a little more below on the difference in saying the same thing but in different ways and how it plays when in discussions like this.
But having said all that, I get your reasons and I fully support them. You are right, that for you, and your life, the risk of giving out personal real emails or phones number is not worth the reward. So for you, it is better to seek ladies who don't require that much info.
However, and leading into what you wrote below, I have men book me because of my screening. Because I am so careful. You mention below that you will not book a lady who shows her face because you feel she is not being discrete, and yet clients book me because they feel I am safe based on how I screen for my secuirty.
So there really is room for both of us and both of our ways within this one industry. Which is a beauiful thing. I just wish that more were open to people's choice as oppose to dismissing or insulting them. Which often happens when this topic gets brought up and why I fight so hard for others to see that BOTH are acceptable, BOTH are needed and BOTH work. It should not be a one side is right and the other side is wrong. Both are right. It is just which right works for you. Does that make sense? God, I hope so.
Wow - I always wondered but never got client confirmation. See, everyone in my life knows what I do on the side here. So I never had to worry about hiding my face for my own privacy reasons like that, and I don't have an issue with what I do, so I don't feel the need to hide. However I do go out into the public with my clients and for them, I hide my face.
As to your stating facts regarding choices, I will say again - you are not wrong in stating choices, but some of your posts come across as there is no choice. Now having context, I understand but some of the remarks you make, come across as putting down ladies like myself and Sophia for what we ask. I would humbly suggest that maybe look at your choice of words.
Often, because I escort differently than most, I have to make it clear that "this" is what works for "me" but others have done "that". For an example, I personally like to cum while with my clients. Other ladies don't and for some very good reasons for them. I would never say something like "Why wouldn't a lady want to cum? All ladies should want to and try to cum. It makes things so much better. It is crazy that they don't try". One is accepting of their choice, the other is judgemental and dismissive of their choice.
I hope that helps explain the difference.
Sorry, but maybe the ladies you see. My clients come to my house. My personal private home. Can't tell me that I am not equally sharing the private info.
Hey squeezer, this is a good example of a passive agressive put down to all ladies and clients who screen, and factually incorrect as well. There is a much better way he could have expressed his opinion on this matter. Since that is all it is, an opinion. Hope that helps and glad to have this discussion with you.
To the OP, I made a post in a similar thread here that covers a lot of my setup and why I set it up that way. I don't think I mentioned that I use talkatone for the phone/text app. The good news is it has a lot of tweaks so you can get the performance set up just perfect, bad news is it has a lot of tweaks so might take a bit of trial and error to get working perfectly. As has been mentioned some ladies ignore app generated numbers though I don't see how that is any less secure than an anonymous burner phone number but that's not my call to make... I'm not going to argue them on their reasons but I still am curious. TBH I think there has been only once where I didn't receive a reply back but I didn't follow up either, I always include that they can text my # anytime but it has come up that the lady chose not to just in case. So I don't know for sure if this particular SP was being safe or ignoring the app generated #.
Hope some of that helps!
Hope some of that helps!
