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lol @ taking calories burned on a watch seriously. Mistake #1

mistake #2- when you’re cutting, just because you ran on a treadmill for 90 mins doesn’t mean you can eat X amount of calories more. You stick to the game plan. Your TDEE already includes “moderate” activity
It is not calories burned based on exercise. It is based on age, weight, gender, and heart rate. Again, it is an estimate. Better to have a starting area then no area at all.
 

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It is not calories burned based on exercise. It is based on age, weight, gender, and heart rate. Again, it is an estimate. Better to have a starting area then no area at all.
1200 is right number for women, I know lots of women who have transformed their bodies on the “1200 cals” rule. There is even a subreddit for it

exercise in combination with 1200 cals a day will get the results even faster

once you start adding calories to your TDEE based on random exercises, you’re doing it wrong
 
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But I don’t want to wait weeks or even months to figure it out when we can all agree that calories in vrs calories out is the only way. Best to get a general idea by tracking what you can and start from there then just start all Willy-Nilly and getting on a scale daily.
My friend was/is overweight. he was 220lbs. 5 weeks ago and he's 5' 3".guy eats at mandarin almost every week. he started to followed a strict diet of meat and fish and leafy greens. no rice (his staple carb...2 cups lunch 1 cup dinner), he only eats at lunch...he set himself of 8hr eating window...beyond that, just water. he lost almost 4lbs. per week. it's hard but doable.
 
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Sorry but it is important from everything I have learned online. How do I know what I’m burning and how much to eat if you don’t pay attention to it. I’m not saying it is exact science but according to my heart rate, I burn over 600 almost 650. I bring it down to 600. People wouldn’t count the calories burned if not important.

1: Track what goes in your mouth 100%. Whatever calorie number you assign to "a egg" or "a spicy chicken sandwich", never change that number.

2: If at all possible, eat exactly the same thing for 3-4 weeks. This will help you calibrate your calorie tracker and your baseline metabolism.

2: Weigh yourself every day at the same time/state/condition. i.e. I get on the scale after my morning constitutional and before I eat or drink anything. Always in the buff.

3: Track your weight over time. Don't worry about the daily number, but do worry about the trend. Make sure your tracking app has a moving average function.

Eventually, you will have enough data to have an average # of calories eaten, and an average change in your weight. From there, you can start fine tuning.

For example, using a 30 day month:

- Calorie count says 1000 calories per day
- trend line weight has gone up 3 lbs.

You've gained 0.1 lb/day. A lb of fat has 3500 calories, this means you are eating 350 calories too much every day. Take out 350 calories per day, and your weight will stabilize.

OR

Calorie counter says you're averaging 2500 calories/day. Your weight has gone down 6 lbs. Same math says you are in a 700 cal/day deficit. You can eat 700 calories more and maintain your weight.

Add or remove calories slowly, since you don't really know how many calories you are changing until it shows up in your weight trend.

The trouble is that nothing related to weight loss is accurate, other than your scale. So you can't trust what your food labels/tracking app/watch are telling you, but you can use them as a consistent unit of measurement. You can trust what your scale is telling you, so use it to measure the output.

The one time in my life I committed to this, I was eating a Wendys spicy chicken, no sauce, side salad every day and still lost weight, because WHAT goes in your mouth doesn't matter. The calories do. You could lose weight on an exclusively french fry diet. You just need the will power to only eat 80% of your daily calories in french fries.
 

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Keep an eye on your carb intake. You don't need to fast.
Carb and Sugar are the main contributors of weight gain. I don't watch calories as our body needs calories to burn. I keep my carb intake to 150gms. No bfast, lunch is 2 cups of almonds and unsweetened craisins, I eat either 2 pork chops or 2 chicken leg/thigh or steak, no mashed potatoes and fries...just carrots celery cauliflowers broccolli, those are my "go to" veggies with steamed bok choy. I lose 2-3 lbs every week for the past 4 weeks...due to injury, I haven't rode my bike or even walk the neighborhood...i do pedal back roads with my gravel bike for 5kms 3 days a week when my knee was fine... tons of apps you can follow...diet and exercise religiously is key to physical health as we age....enjoying life to a healthy mind.
I'm 50 % protien. No processes sugars if I can avoid it.
My friend was/is overweight. he was 220lbs. 5 weeks ago and he's 5' 3".guy eats at mandarin almost every week. he started to followed a strict diet of meat and fish and leafy greens. no rice (his staple carb...2 cups lunch 1 cup dinner), he only eats at lunch...he set himself of 8hr eating window...beyond that, just water. he lost almost 4lbs. per week. it's hard but doable.
Men lose weight so much faster than women, but good for him!!!!
 
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1: Track what goes in your mouth 100%. Whatever calorie number you assign to "a egg" or "a spicy chicken sandwich", never change that number.

2: If at all possible, eat exactly the same thing for 3-4 weeks. This will help you calibrate your calorie tracker and your baseline metabolism.

2: Weigh yourself every day at the same time/state/condition. i.e. I get on the scale after my morning constitutional and before I eat or drink anything. Always in the buff.

3: Track your weight over time. Don't worry about the daily number, but do worry about the trend. Make sure your tracking app has a moving average function.

Eventually, you will have enough data to have an average # of calories eaten, and an average change in your weight. From there, you can start fine tuning.

For example, using a 30 day month:

- Calorie count says 1000 calories per day
- trend line weight has gone up 3 lbs.

You've gained 0.1 lb/day. A lb of fat has 3500 calories, this means you are eating 350 calories too much every day. Take out 350 calories per day, and your weight will stabilize.

OR

Calorie counter says you're averaging 2500 calories/day. Your weight has gone down 6 lbs. Same math says you are in a 700 cal/day deficit. You can eat 700 calories more and maintain your weight.

Add or remove calories slowly, since you don't really know how many calories you are changing until it shows up in your weight trend.

The trouble is that nothing related to weight loss is accurate, other than your scale. So you can't trust what your food labels/tracking app/watch are telling you, but you can use them as a consistent unit of measurement. You can trust what your scale is telling you, so use it to measure the output.

The one time in my life I committed to this, I was eating a Wendys spicy chicken, no sauce, side salad every day and still lost weight, because WHAT goes in your mouth doesn't matter. The calories do. You could lose weight on an exclusively french fry diet. You just need the will power to only eat 80% of your daily calories in french fries.
This helps. Thank you.
 

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I'm 50 % protien. No processes sugars if I can avoid it.

Men lose weight so much faster than women, but good for him!!!!
IMO...necessity triggered his motivation. I also started bringing him to some river fishing + hiking and wading so there's a bit of activities that helped him, not just diet.
 

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IMO...necessity triggered his motivation. I also started bringing him to some river fishing + hiking and wading so there's a bit of activities that helped him, not just diet.
That is my problem in the summer. I spend so much time sitting in a boat fishing. I always gain in the summer. LOL
 
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That is my problem in the summer. I spend so much time sitting in a boat fishing. I always gain in the summer. LOL
I do my boat fishing during the fall and spring...I do kayak fishing during the summers...I got a great deal with a Hobie Kayak before covid...I could imagine how expensive they are now...great exercise machine and fishing... plenty of apps that could help with your weight loss...just need to find the one that would work for you. Good luck!
 

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I do my boat fishing during the fall and spring...I do kayak fishing during the summers...I got a great deal with a Hobie Kayak before covid...I could imagine how expensive they are now...great exercise machine and fishing... plenty of apps that could help with your weight loss...just need to find the one that would work for you. Good luck!
I started with a fishing yak but once I got my boat - that kinda stopped. I didn't even kayak once this year. I will have to better next summer for sure.
 

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So it is winter, and this is when I work out to lose the weight I gain in the summer. Which is annoying because I try to eat a balanced diet in the summer but seem to over eat even if it is healthy foods. But that is a topic for another day.

During the winter - I use an app that suggests 1200 calories a day. And then I work out daily burning a minimum of 600 calories. Which means my daily calorie intake is only like 600-700 1200 calories eaten and then 600 calories burned) . Which is fine, I can manage that but I think that is actually hindering weight lose and making it harder. From my understanding for my age I should be eating 1600-2200 calories a day and at 1200 calories that would give me about a 2lb weight lost per week. Which is great.

However - working out changes that so am I right to think I should be 1800 calories? 1200 daily plus the 600 I burn off and that will still give me a 2lb weight loss per week?

It is all so confusing. Someone here has to understand this shit. I don’t want to lose weight by starvation because the body holds on to more fat that way. I want to just be in a health deficit while working out daily.
They can drive you crazy, now they say calories doesn't matter anymore and the type of food and hormones matter. The dietitian I went to, said to eat 1500 calories plus I workout almost everyday and to eat more starches. I can't lose weight on that, I have to go to 1200 or less to lose weight. Dr Bernstein was giving 600 calories to his patients plus the B12 injections or whatever they were. People say they have success fasting in the morning.
 
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I started with a fishing yak but once I got my boat - that kinda stopped. I didn't even kayak once this year. I will have to better next summer for sure.
Or get a paddle board...I saw some ladies do yoga by frenchman's bay in their paddleboards one time...looks fun for the ladies...I tried it on my SO's ...my balance is messed up...fell a lot of times.lol
 
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They can drive you crazy, now they say calories doesn't matter anymore and the type of food and hormones matter. The dietitian I went to, said to eat 1500 calories plus I workout almost everyday and to eat more starches. I can't lose weight on that, I have to go to 1200 or less to lose weight. Dr Bernstein was giving 600 calories to his patients plus the B12 injections or whatever they were. People say they have success fasting in the morning.
it’s true, some people are so insulin resistant that without cutting carbs out of their diet, they won’t lose weight
 
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As far as I know, eating only 1200 calories a day would put you in a deficit on many other fronts. It's too low.

My exercise is walking. 1 hour walk, 5 times a week. I cover about 8km in 1 hour. So it's a fast pace walk. I never calculated how many calories I burn, probably around 500 to 700.

I eat a regular diet. Meaning no diet. Since I do not drink alcohol anymore, it makes me lose weight.

My advice is to keep a regular diet but just avoid alcohol and sugary desert and you will still lose weight. And gain tones, which is great when we get older.
Walking is great exercise. Curious where you walk though? I can't imagine doing 1 hour walks in the GTA.

I used to live in Singapore and I hated the place. But there was a 40 storey public housing building near my place, and every day I would walk up the stairs 3 times. Exhausting but really good cardio.

One time I came across 2 school kids fucking on the stairs, but that's another story.
 

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But I don’t want to wait weeks or even months to figure it out when we can all agree that calories in vrs calories out is the only way. Best to get a general idea by tracking what you can and start from there then just start all Willy-Nilly and getting on a scale daily.
It’s not always that simple. If your calorie deficit is too great (very low calories) the body will work to conserve energy and weight loss will be much slower than anticipated. It is a natural survival feature of the human body.
 
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Walking is great exercise. Curious where you walk though? I can't imagine doing 1 hour walks in the GTA.

I used to live in Singapore and I hated the place. But there was a 40 storey public housing building near my place, and every day I would walk up the stairs 3 times. Exhausting but really good cardio.

One time I came across 2 school kids fucking on the stairs, but that's another story.
lot's of trail around the GTA... don valley has some great trails...if you're on the east of GTA...glen rouge, seaton trail, waterfront of pickering to port union... lakeshore blvd - great view of the lake and ladies in yoga shorts and pants...
 

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My watch calculator does both. My active and total calories. Total are naturally burned. Active are from exercise.

As I have said, it is not exact and I low ball it to 600 when it says closer to 650 but I need a rough estimate when trying to calculate food intake. You have to have a rough idea of calories out to know how much calories to bring in.
Stick to using your apps and monitors because, yes, they may be off a tad, but if you keep using the same ones, they will provide a good baseline. The same with calories on a product, are they exact, no, but again, it provides a guide, and once you learn what works, you know how to adjust.

Bodybuilding, especially if using gear, is a different scenario than someone trying to lose weight and gain some muscle naturally.
 

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It’s not always that simple. If your calorie deficit is too great (very low calories) the body will work to conserve energy and weight loss will be much slower than anticipated. It is a natural survival feature of the human body.
This is what I am trying to avoid and I had my calculations wrong which would have put me in this exact situation
 
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Walking is great exercise. Curious where you walk though? I can't imagine doing 1 hour walks in the GTA.

I used to live in Singapore and I hated the place. But there was a 40 storey public housing building near my place, and every day I would walk up the stairs 3 times. Exhausting but really good cardio.

One time I came across 2 school kids fucking on the stairs, but that's another story.
I have an elliptical machine at home from box flex. I do a 90 minute work out on that.
 

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Walking is great exercise. Curious where you walk though? I can't imagine doing 1 hour walks in the GTA.

I used to live in Singapore and I hated the place. But there was a 40 storey public housing building near my place, and every day I would walk up the stairs 3 times. Exhausting but really good cardio.

One time I came across 2 school kids fucking on the stairs, but that's another story.
When living in Toronto, I was near the Fallingbrook area. I pretty much followed the lakefront all the way to the Exhibition Centre and back. I was pretty much doing the same when living downtown.
In Montreal, when I was living in the city, it was a walk from Rosemont up to Mount-Royal hill and back. I now live in a suburb 40 minutes from Montreal, where there is plenty of trails and paths.

I travel to a lot of American cities for work. I always draw a walking map from where I am (usually a downtown hotel) to a city park, up and back.

My dad is 84. He's been taken 2-3 walks per day for about 25 years now. He is solid as a rock.
 
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