Does anyone understand calorie deficit?

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Leave the thread then. No one asked you to be here. You can't say what is a waste of "everyone's time" Just what is a waste of yours and if you feel it is a waste, leave the thread and don't come back. Bye. 👋🏻
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One thing that people dont bring up enough is that if you eat fewer calories, it also causes you to burn fewer calories. I dont know the actual amount but if I cut 500 calories a day, I take 10% off my BMR.

Ex. Usual BMR is 2000. I cut to 1500. My new BMR is 1800.
 

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Don't feel bad. Many people have tantrums when they fail.
You really think, if I’m as stubborn as you think, that this type of lame attempt at an insult is going to work me???? 😂😂😂😂

I’m a BBW escort who has been posting on this board for years - making any jab at me or my weight as a way to “win” went out the window a long time ago. LOL. It just doesn’t affect me like that. Unlike you who is truly upset by this. You are a funny nut. That is for sure.

I'm done posting to you now. You can get the last word or the last three if your ego needs it so much.
 

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One thing that people dont bring up enough is that if you eat fewer calories, it also causes you to burn fewer calories. I dont know the actual amount but if I cut 500 calories a day, I take 10% off my BMR.

Ex. Usual BMR is 2000. I cut to 1500. My new BMR is 1800.
This is why I asked about deficit in combination with diet and exercise. This exact reason. I didn't want to burn less by not eating enough because I was focused on calorie deficit with food and not properly taking into account calorie burn with exercise.

Thank you.
 

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You really think, if I’m as stubborn as you think, that this type of lame attempt at an insult is going to work me???? 😂😂😂😂

I’m a BBW escort who has been posting on this board for years - making any jab at me or my weight as a way to “win” went out the window a long time ago. LOL. It just doesn’t affect me like that. Unlike you who is truly upset by this. You are a funny nut. That is for sure.

I'm done posting to you now. You can get the last word or the last three if your ego needs it so much.
For some who isn't affected, you sure go out of your way to jab.

BBW meaning an overweight white lady?

I'm taking my upset ass elsewhere to have a good time. Tada.
 

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I already don't eat wheat. No bread, pasta, rice. I don’t eat sugars for the most part. I don’t use white sugar in anything like my coffee for example and if I do eat something processed like jello for example, it is sugar free.
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Lest you consider them high carb food to be avoided, brown rice, red rice,
black rice, oats, quinoa, pearl barley, millet, corn, lentils and other whole grains
should be good for your health. Just eat them in moderation.
 

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Lest you consider them high carb food to be avoided, brown rice, red rice,
black rice, oats, quinoa, pearl barley, millet, corn, lentils and other whole grains
should be good for your health. Just eat them in moderation.
I have to admit, I have not tried different rice. When I get into maintenance mode, this is something I would like to change. I want to try brown rice at least. I do like quinoa, oats and corn. But as you said, in moderation
 

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I'm 50 % protien. No processes sugars if I can avoid it.

Men lose weight so much faster than women, but good for him!!!!
maybe you need to up your fat intake via avocado and cashews? Also soups are great and don’t forget iodized salt for thyroid function. Women especially need this. However this is assuming you’re not eating prepared meals and snacks
 

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I already don't eat wheat. No bread, pasta, rice. I don’t eat sugars for the most part. I don’t use white sugar in anything like my coffee for example and if I do eat something processed like jello for example, it is sugar free.

While I agree that staying away from processed foods is best, I’m not convinced that calories in vrs calories out does not play a factor. It just logically doesn't make sense.

You can eat all organic food and if you eat too much of it compared to what you naturally burn, you will gain weight. There is no getting around that.

Thank you for your input though. Appreciate it.
Have you tried getting tested for food intolerances? Maybe your weight gain is inflammation? Also are you tracking your monthly cycle and seeing trends for weight fluctuations? And maybe correlating to seasons? And even further out the moon lol I feel like this leads to more complexity for women. I also don’t know how old you are but my friend is in late 30s and is perimenopause. Not sure if that affects weight gain.
 

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I have to admit, I have not tried different rice. When I get into maintenance mode, this is something I would like to change. I want to try brown rice at least. I do like quinoa, oats and corn. But as you said, in moderation
Sweet potato is a better choice. Add cinnamon and cayenne on top Enjoy
 

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I really didn’t think this thread would blow up and with so many “experts”.

I’m not saying I know everything but calories in/out is the most proven method and the one I prefer to follow. I made a few mistakes last year that I won’t make this year.

One of this is calories required change as your weight goes down. If you need 2000 at 175lb you may only need 1500 at 150lbs. Age also plays a factor in how many calories you need so. I didn’t take that into account last year. It is part of the reason people have trouble losing that last 10 lbs, they eat the same calories as they did when they were heavier, not realizing they need less. They think they have a 500 calorie deficit when really they may only have 100.

I’m not worried about losing weight. I don’t even have a goal weight in mind. I have a look and feel in mind. When I get to that, I will start maintenance. I will use @bodyshot method then to figure out maintenance calories for that weight at that time. Just not spending weeks doing it now when I know I will have enough of a deficit with my plan to make it work. Why delay a couple of weeks of weight loss when I don't have too
Have you tried intermiddent fasting ? Also there’s studies though it works for women during certain times of the month only otherwise it can have opposite effect due to your monthly cycle. I think it was the latest episode of diary of a ceo Had four women in healthcare on the podcast
 

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I really didn’t think this thread would blow up and with so many “experts”.

I’m not saying I know everything but calories in/out is the most proven method and the one I prefer to follow. I made a few mistakes last year that I won’t make this year.
Not experts, everybody is different and these posts are simply saying what worked for them, you asked.
Is your goal just to lose pounds ? Do you want muscle tone more energy and stamina? Change up your workout to Include weight lifting/resistance training. 🏋️‍♀️
Genetics also plays a huge factor. We all have that friend that can eat anything and everything and not put on an ounce.
Invest in yourself. Get a professional trainer to develop a customized workout/diet plan.
Not an expert, but worked for me.
 
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The channel diary of a CEO has many "experts" on health and other things. Taken with a some doubt.

I liked his comment.. Dr. Pradip Jamnadas - short clip


Here is the long version


He was asked by the host which diet works best in the first 20 mins of interview. His response "what result are you looking for?"

I am a believer in Karma and the shape of our body also determines our figure.
All the best with your goal.
 
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Too long to post the whole article, but I've seen it before that calorie counting is no good.

Calorie counting and low-calorie diets for weight loss: An update

Losing weight is tough. And keeping it off in the long run is even tougher.

Millions of people try some kind of weight loss program every year. But most who are successful will regain the weight over the following years.

In fact, people who go through cycles of weight loss and regain, a process sometimes called yo-yo dieting, are likely to weigh more than people who don’t have restrictive eating patterns. This is especially true for women.

A review and meta-analysis examining 80 weight loss clinical trials provides some evidence. The authors compared different methods of dieting, including low-calorie diets.

They found that a diet focused on drastically reducing caloric intake initially produces dramatic weight loss. But people's weight steadily rises back.

And at the 3-year mark, most people — around 80% — are rapidly approaching their starting weight.

Prof. Tim Spector told us that “In real life, these figures are likely to be much worse without the backup of all the resources and psychological support of a clinical trial.”

Interestingly, the scientists also found that people who tried to lose weight using only exercise lost the least from any group. They also put the weight back on the quickest.

But today, we’re focusing on calorie counting and why it doesn’t work.

 

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Too long to post the whole article, but I've seen it before that calorie counting is no good.

Calorie counting and low-calorie diets for weight loss: An update

Losing weight is tough. And keeping it off in the long run is even tougher.

Millions of people try some kind of weight loss program every year. But most who are successful will regain the weight over the following years.

In fact, people who go through cycles of weight loss and regain, a process sometimes called yo-yo dieting, are likely to weigh more than people who don’t have restrictive eating patterns. This is especially true for women.

A review and meta-analysis examining 80 weight loss clinical trials provides some evidence. The authors compared different methods of dieting, including low-calorie diets.

They found that a diet focused on drastically reducing caloric intake initially produces dramatic weight loss. But people's weight steadily rises back.

And at the 3-year mark, most people — around 80% — are rapidly approaching their starting weight.

Prof. Tim Spector told us that “In real life, these figures are likely to be much worse without the backup of all the resources and psychological support of a clinical trial.”

Interestingly, the scientists also found that people who tried to lose weight using only exercise lost the least from any group. They also put the weight back on the quickest.

But today, we’re focusing on calorie counting and why it doesn’t work.


You're missing the point of the article.


“They found that a diet focused on drastically reducing caloric intake…”


No one here is advocating a 1,000-calorie crash diet. The goal is a moderate deficit of about 300 to 500 calories below maintenance, which is the only sustainable and effective way to lean out.

If your goal is to gain or maintain muscle while doing it, you’ve got to include resistance training. Then layer in cardio or regular walking to boost energy expenditure and overall conditioning.

If you’re starting from scratch, begin with the calorie deficit first. When your metabolism starts to adapt and weight loss slows, that’s when you add in cardio and that combo is where the real fat loss happens.

 
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To say that 'calorie counting is no good' is a bit extreme. You need to have some awareness of what you're consuming daily, and calories is an easy way to do it, along with tracking your protein/carb/fat intake. Obviously there are going to be adjustments to your food consumption/exercise routine over time based on the results.
 

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If you burn 2,500 calories a day and consume 1,500, the IMPLIES that you WILL lose 2 pounds a week.

I see.

So that is 100 lbs a year. In a year and a half a 150 pound person will weigh approximately ZERO.

No, no they won't. And they won't starve to death either, because at 1,500 calories you can get all the nutrition you need. So the body will adjust in all kinds of ways to reduce expenditure. It does that as a survival mechanism. YOU WILL NOT STAY IN CALORIC DEFICIT.
1500 is a fun number to chose, because in general, if you are at 1500 or fewer calories a day for long enough, you will die, from starvation, or from sickness due to your body shutting down from lack of calories.

 

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To say that 'calorie counting is no good' is a bit extreme. You need to have some awareness of what you're consuming daily, and calories is an easy way to do it, along with tracking your protein/carb/fat intake. Obviously there are going to be adjustments to your food consumption/exercise routine over time based on the results.
I used to calorie count all the time when I was taking the gym seriously but now I just practice intuitive eating with healthy high protein meals 😊
 

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Exactly. And you learn to avoid low protein options.
Yup but not to say calorie counting is bad whenever I wanna lose extra weight I pause my intuitive eating diet and start counting calories and macros 😊

I do wanna say when you are using the intuitive diet you MUST choose healthy calorie dense foods 😊
 
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