Yes he was wrong. NATO members make a commitment to spend a certain percentage of GDP on defence and many members were not meeting that obligation although there was an agreement on scheduled increases. There was never any scenario in which any member paid anything to the us.
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Only in the USA can a rancid traitor who's only talent is lying be allowed to run for office again. In Brazil Bolsonaro has been barred from politics for 8 years.
One is senile and says random shite all day long and the other is actively aiding genocide.
I believe in all likelihood total defense spending of all NATO
members combined will be higher than where they are with Trump
as president. It is undisputed that Trump is not a bright president.
Bue he won't be foolish enough to cut defense spending. Military
aid to prolong and to escalate the Ukraine war actually profits U.S.
military industries. It is in Trump's interest to see to it more weapons
are to be manufactured to sell to Europe and for replenishment of
arms donated to Ukraine. Trump can wrongfully think Europe
owed the U.S without weakening NATO defense and Ukraine will
still end up receiving more weapons.
I am just guessing how things might turn out in the scenario of
Trump's return. It is Biden whom I bet will win the election. We
are living in a crazy world. But the world has to be an insane one for
Trump to win. That said, I would want Trump not Biden to be the
winner if I want to see profits of Lockheed Martin and Boeing soaring.
"Many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money from many years back, where they're delinquent as far as I'm concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them. So if you go back 10 or 20 years, you'll just add it all up, it's massive amounts of money is owed."
Was he right?
I think a lot of what you say is true but i also think that if Trump is elected they will be flying the Russian flag in Kiev within a year. After that Moldova? Transnistria? Who knows.
Moldova is part of NATO. Invasion into any
NATO nations would be way more tough
decision for Putin to make than attacking Ukraine.
All NATO members plus South Korea and Japan are sheltered
in the U.S. nuclear umbrella.
The power of the POTUS has its limit. Trump cannot
scuttle all the nukes in the U.S. arsenal. It is one thing
for Trump to say he will encourage Russia to attack as
a warning to Europe to spend more on buying U.S. arms.
Once he is president (again) it won't do him any good
to see Europe destroyed. It is implausible Trump as president
will openly invite Putin to fire nuclear missiles into NATO
members with assurance that the U.S. will not fire intercontinental
missiles back into Moscow. Conventional military invasion of
Europe from Russia cannot be entirely ruled out however
with Trump in charge. Europe just has to appease Trump to
be guaranteed security against Russia.
I do not believe that Moldova is a member of NATO.
The limits on presidential power are to some extend there because of congressional oversight. During his time in office Trump regularly thumbed his nose at the constitution and the limits of his power and the GOP congress did nothing. he then appoint judges who would also give him a lot of leeway. You may have noticed that he suspended or fired all of the Inspector generals from each agency to avoid any oversight.
My bad, I mistakenly thought Moldova was a NATO member.
Remember there is an organization named CIA. Trump would
be taken out if he goes insane. Russia's nuclear missiles are
no match to the destructibility of U.S. intercontinental ballistic
missiles. These missiles will be in good hand even with Trump
in the WH.
Remember there is an organization named CIA. Trump would
be taken out if he goes insane. Russia's nuclear missiles are
no match to the destructibility of U.S. intercontinental ballistic
missiles. These missiles will be in good hand even with Trump
in the WH.
I would say he is right based on the reliance those countries have had on the US without paying their fair share for a very long time.
First Trump will no doubt replace the head of the CIA with a lackey. In terms of missles Trump would never challenge his hero and even if he doesn't leave NATO he will undoubtedly weaken it and given that he does not feel bound by treaties Article 5 would probably become toothless.
Just a thought: Jug Trump and Orban during their upcoming meeting. It would deal a serious blow to Putin's war on democracy...
Of course he won't.
He campaigned in 2016 on raising defense spending because the US was too weak militarily and had become a laughing stock.
The US needed to be dominant again.
Basically, Trump has always campaigned on making people afraid of the US again.
More money for the military, bring back torture, have the military perform war crimes.
That's what he campaigned on in 2016 and I expect he will go back to it for 2024.
I don't know what war crimes Trump may instigate. But I guess
in the event of the Ukraine War intensifying to a level calling for
NATO intervention Trump will tell Poland, Sweden, Finland and France
to prepare their own troops to die first so as to keep American
troops out of harm's way. The U.S. could still fulfill its obligation
as a NATO member so long as Europe is safely sheltered from Putin's
nukes in America's nuclear umbrella. I guess Europe will make
Zelensky fight to the last man before they are ready to sacrifice
their own people.
Neither do I.
I was pointing out he campaigned on the idea the US should do war crimes.
They would "win" because no one would mess with them that way.
(And seizing spoils of war would pay for things, too.)
Trump is very pro-military in the whole "the US should be strong and people should be afraid of it" strong man view of things.
The military should be there to bully others and make the US money.
He won't even do that.
He will just cut off funding if he can and invite Putin in.
If anything, he will insist that Poland, Sweden, Finland, and France stand down and not do anything.
Trump doesn't give a damn about keeping US troops out of harm's way.
He just doesn't want to fight his friends, or fight where he doesn't see himself getting something out of it.
Why would Trump want to fulfill the US's obligation as a NATO member?
Macron seems to be talking about sending French troops in, but in general I expect the rest of NATO also doesn't want to actually get into a shooting war with Putin directly if they can avoid it.
Trump pardoned a US navy SEAL who was convicted of war crimes by his peers.
My experience is the tiny dicked tough guys think being tough = being a bully, pushing around the weaker, constantly talking tough and acting like marauding bands of barbarians indiscriminately killing looting raping. Like the Russian army does.
I've been around plenty of actual tough guys = these guys don't blather on about being tough, and if anything tend to feel more protective of the weak.
Ted Cruz is the former type. So is Trump. They turn tail once you pop them.(hell, Trump fled to the bunker of the white house because of a protest).
Anyone who is actually a real tough guy knows this.
